Thanks for the heads up....I actually updated the stock cooler to a Mugen 5 rev b
Yikes, you are absolutely correct....thanks for the heads up.
I moved it....
Thanks for the comment.
I put it in that slot because it totally blocks the chip set blower in the upper slot.
It bottlenecks the GPU in the lower slot? How so?
So I tried the AI Suite 3 and the system did not like it. It worked, but when rebooting the system did some strange things....removed.
Thanks for the suggestions; what I was really looking for was something graphical and lean, like Fan Xpert that I had on my old Asus MB. It looks like it is no longer available.
Thanks for the help... Just ordered a Mugen
Oh my case is really wide, so no worries there.
You like the Mugen best?
Thanks, I will, but do any of them rise above the others? If it makes any difference I don't care about RGB.
Ah, so getting an after market cooler is a good idea.
Is the Mugen I noted a good choice?
From what I have gathered from this and other forums for a 32GB build, the difference in performance between a 3600/16 and a 3200/16 is not worth the extra cost.
In looking through EZ mode screen I could not find XMP mode.
There is a setting in the upper right corner where you can set it to "Asus Optimal" although I don't know what it does.
On the other hand there is a setting for DOCR either disable or profile #1...what ever they mean.
I did enable PBO though.
Any insights would be appreciated.
In reading this test report, it seems that the 2060 Super may be a better value...no?
Yeah, I did notice that they were not really available.
Regarding your second comment, this is a bit of a surprise as most of the reviews I read like it more than either the 2070 or 2080.....please, explain.
FWIW, I went with the non-WiFi version of the TUF Gaming X570-Plus for $10 less. At the time I ordered the Aorus Elite was out of stock.
I thought that the D.O.C.R (or something like that) is all you need for memory.....
Unless the Bios is different for my MB (TUF Gaming X570-Plus)
So it seems that if the Elite does not restock in the near future, I'll go with the TUF Gaming.
Appreciate the help : )
Thanks for the analysis, @Gilroar,
Forgive me, but what might be the bottom line?
I don't normally have more than one application running, other than maybe mail.
So how much better is Intel over Realtek LAN?
Is it a deal breaker?
Asus makes their TUF Gaming X570-Plus without WiFi, but with Realtek.
Thanks; Yeah, but since I really don't need the WiFi.......on the other hand I could buy the Gigabyte board with WiFi for another $10. The question is there any differences between all these that are tie breakers? Is the Elite that much better than the Asus, given how I will use it? For instance, I thought I read somewhere that the ethernet controller on the Elite is better than the one on the Asus mb.....
Thanks for the reply, @mark,
Actually if you click the Amazon link it says, "delivery 1 to 2 months." I really don't want to wait that long.
Regarding the Asus mb, how would it compare with the Elite? Keeping in mind I probably won't overclock the CPU - maybe memory.
Thanks all; any other suggestions before I place orders?
I certainly noticed the suggestion from @ImperiousBattlestar for reasons of reliability I believe...thank you.
It is not clear to me why one drive with everything on it is a more favorable solution.....
Micron E die - somewhere I read that Micron B die was preferred (also 16 vs 14 latency?).....but honestly, I do not know what all that means in any event.
Ok, I understand....but why is it not practical to have one drive for OS and Apps and the other for data? I would think that is a more reliable alternative especially given issues with Windows Update.
I do appreciate the suggestions.
Thanks for the reply.
So if I understand your recommendation, you are suggesting that having two SSDs of the same general model number is a potential problem. If you wouldn't mind I would like to understand why that is the case.
Are you suggesting that I have a single 2TB SSD for W10, Apps, and data?
Also, regarding RAM, I have sort of decided on this part as I could not find any 3600/16 in 2x16GB.
Would appreciate any feedback...
Are you suggesting this RAM? It doesn't seem to be on the Gigabyte QVL....
Regarding SSD, I don't quite understand your suggestion. Why is having two drives doing different tasks but the same manufacturer and speed bad?
Yes, though in looking at the chart from a price/performance perspective the 3700X is best...no?
Yes, it is confusing. I have asked whether one would actually see any difference in performance and the answer was in the 1% range.....or more simply stated, no. At least this is what I got out of it......not worth the extra cost.
Thanks for the comments/suggestions.
For my applications (Lightroom and gaming - both are hobbies) do I need 32GB of RAM? If not I can go with 3600/16. If the extra RAM space will benefit more than a bit less latency, I'll go with the 32GB 3600/19.
Does any of this make sense? And thanks for the help.
Thanks for the comment....
I wonder if I actually need 32GB; given the prices of the extra RAM, is there any way to determine this?
...again, given my anticipated use above.
Personally, I like the gigabyte x570 aorus elite, as don't need WiFi.... For a 3700x
If you check out Gamers Nexus, buildzoid did a video on lots of X570 MBs.... May help you.
GN did a review of a bunch of MBs a few days ago. The reviewer seemed to prefer a few and disliked many more.....it may be of interest:
Thanks for the reply @Gilroar,
In looking at the video it seemed that one could lose up to about 300MHz..all other things being equal. Therefore, with PB2 and PBO there could be limitations given the ambient temperature and case thermal performance.
What I will most likely do is monitor the CPU temperature in my specific thermal environment and see how it behaves. If need be...then invest in an aftermarket cooler.
Has anyone seen anything written the value of latency? I have seen seemingly conflicting information, some saying 16 is best, others saying that it really doesn't matter....
As I noted in my earlier post, he seemed to also favor the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite for anyone who didn't need WiFi. What struck me about this particular MB is that it would be fine for 3600X all the way up to 3900X....FWIW.
Thanks for the very comprehensive reply....
So it seems that 3600 speed is good.
What about latency? 19 is ok?
In looking at the comparison, I noticed that the latency numbers varied quite a bit. In general is it advisable to be in the 16 range for 3600 speed RAM? Or is 3600 not required? Again, thinking in terms of 3700X or 3800X - probably not overclocked.
Just what would the best trade off be?
From what I have read, 3600 / 16 is preferrable, but I would gladly defer to those who are more knowledgeable.
It seems that Buildzoid likes the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite best if one wants an X570 MB with Bios updating functionality......$200.
For me it really is all about value. I don't mind paying a bit more, but there must be value gained. I don't mind at all with a last gen MB, as long it doesn't impede the function of the new CPU and system, as a whole. I also don't mind paying a bit more to reduce, what I call 'complexity.' If I need to spend another 8 hours just getting the system to run because I saved $50 for example....not the best use of time, IMHO.
Given the above, are there any MBs that provide good value and functionality?
Thanks for the clarification, but at similar price points, why would you want to have to update the bios for similar functionality (PCI 4.0 withstanding)? Do the B450 mbs have additional features that the X570 don't?
I just do not understand why you would not want the latest product offering.....
FWIW, just watched a Hardware Unboxed video reviewing the 3700X. At the end he recommended not using a X570 MB; he suggested 2 MSI MBs....
B450 Tomahawk and B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Why would I want to do that especially given similar price points?
I think I will wait a bit more to hopefully catch a few more reviews on other's MBs......
I think I would rather go with a 570 level mb.....just in case I want to upgrade down the road.
Again, there are a few that could work for under $200......got to wait for more reviews, I guess.
Yeah, and if I ever want to utilize PCIe 4.0......
Actually, that mb was recommended to me, which is why I stuck it in my build plan as a place holder. I know that all the major MB manufacturers will hopefully have a mid level product like this. Waiting for reviews......
Thanks for the posts Allan. It seems that there will be a 3700X in my immediate future.....now, MB and RAM.
Wait.....according to the specs on this website..it has 2 M.2 PCIe slots..unless I am missing something.