Ah, I understand. Thank you.
It's a Liquid Freezer 240: https://www.arctic.ac/uk_en/liquid-freezer-240.html
The manual says connect the fans to CPU_FAN but nothing about the pump:
I don't understand what makes no sense, I have to plug the pump somewhere.
What do you mean it failing? protected in what way?
I've read the manual, it doesn't cover oveclocking with Dual Intelligent Process 5 and why sometimes it's enabled and why sometimes it's not and the effect the switches have on it.
I'm not sure the implications of that for my selection of motherboard. Do you think those are better than the X99 WS?
I am taking into consideration that people mostly comment negatively. My personal experience with high end motherboards has been appalling. I'm happy to pay the extra money if it increases reliability and longevity as my computer is my main tool of work and it breaking can cause a huge loss in productivity... the problem is that a lot of motherboards are just gimmicky. In many, it feels the extra money is for a coat of paint and some LEDs.
Possibly. I don't see how the markets would differ on the generation of usb port (for only two of them).
My problem is that I'm going for reliability and the reviews are quite different. I'm replacing a broken Asus X99 Deluxe II and the Asus X99-E WS which is available here seems to have as negative reviews as the Deluxe II, while the X99-E WS/USB3.1 is not available.
Is this a quirk of the reviews or are the motherboards even more different than it seems from looking at the spec?
Yes, but the difference is minimal. The better one in the UK cost about $20 more which I don't mind paying, but Amazon doesn't sell it. In the US, the better one seems to be $100 cheaper than the other, which makes no sense.
I see. So, the difference seems to be:
X99-E WS/USB 3.1
- 2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 (teal blue)
- 8 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (blue)
- 10 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (blue)
Both are USB 3.1, but one is gen 2 and the other is gen 1, whatever that means.
I find it really odd that these two montherboards are so similar, one is in their US site, one is in their UK site. ASUS X99-E WS/USB 3.1 seems to have much better reviews at Newegg and it's also cheaper, but it is harder to get in the UK.
Asus X99-E WS/USB3.1 says:
while Asus X99-E WS says:
They look about the same to me. What am I missing?
Doing a bit more searching I found
ASUS X99-E WS LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 CEB Form Factor Intel Motherboard
that seems to have as bad reviews as the one I'm returning and
ASUS X99-E WS/USB 3.1 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 CEB Intel Motherboard
which has much better reviews... but... are they the same board? On the Asus website, one appears in the US, the other one appears in the UK and the specs have slight variations:
Oh, if anything, I'm spending too much time on this. I've watched many videos, read reviews, look at the reviews on many sites and I did want to buy a different brand, but being objective pushed me to that model.
I'm thinking of going for the Asus X99-E WS, it's pricey, but I like their focus on quality and reliability for that model. I'm checking the other workstation-oriented boards as well.
I find the Amazon reviews not very useful, but Newegg might provide more useful information. Indeed it has quite a bit of bad reviews.
Looking at all the X99 motherboards:
I'll start going down, trying to figure out the best.
I checked all the compatible motherboards with my CPU, 2-way SLI, amount (but not specific model) of RAM and amount of USB ports needed, and these are the ones that tick all the boxes:
I have to add that I don't care about what they look like, I have a non-windowed case anyway.
Nothing is melting, the computer runs very cool.
I have a closed case, no windows, so, I didn't go crazy with arranging them nicely. Actually, I arranged them so I'm sure no cable is touching a cooler or a hot surface.
It happens at all times. I get flickering at any point. Now more and more when the machine comes back from sleep the screen doesn't wake up. And when I play a YouTube video full screen I get flickering on all screens.
This is my build: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/QCmqqs
Computer was reinstalled and problems persisted.
I think I've seen some flickering again on the monitor to the left, which is now monitor number 2. This either points to: faulty signal cable, another faulty cable or there being something specific in the drivers about the monitor on the left (despite which connection on the video card it's plugged in).
I haven't seen enough flickering to be sure it's really happening yet.
These monitors have built-in USB hubs. Technically, it could be the source of the fault, but I'd say that's highly unlikely as they shouldn't even be part of the same circuit.
Interestingly, when I change the plugs, the computer somehow recognized this and arranged my screens properly, so, the left screen remained the left screen despite being plugged somewhere else, and so on.
So far, no flickering. I think the flickering went down or disappeared, but I haven't used the computer long enough to be sure yet.
Now I switched around the connection at the video card, so I went from:
GPU 1 ==== Cable 1 ====> Monitor 1
GPU 2 ==== Cable 2 ====> Monitor 2
GPU 3 ==== Cable 3 ====> Monitor 3
GPU 1 ==== Cable 1 ====> Monitor 1
GPU 3 ==== Cable 2 ====> Monitor 2
GPU 2 ==== Cable 3 ====> Monitor 3
so, this should help figure out whether it's the signal cable or the GPU (although it could still be caused by power or USB cable).
Ah, I forgot to mention, I swapped two monitors around, the flickering number 3 with number 1 (the one in the middle), so, everything was unplugged and re-plugged. The flickering stayed with the slot, not the monitor. So, it's definitely not the monitor.
Being that it's a digital signal and it happens at random points, are there any chances of it being a cable? I cannot trigger it by moving the cables.
Another interesting data point is that at least twice, the whole monitor went off. Once was when playing VR (did the video card had to turn it off to have enough power for VR? although normally I play VR and the monitor just works (maybe flickering, I don't know). The other time I'm not sure what happened.
I'm searching for quiet PSU, so, I guess I'll go for:
At the maker's site:
I could alternatively go for http://www.fsplifestyle.com/PROP163000605/ but it's quite a bit more expensive.
Yeah... I looked for the TridentZ and they were about the same price as the Ripjaws.
I decided to drop the inverted case. Thanks for the heads up on the power supply, that would have been a PITA.
And yes, prices are so much higher here, but then again, I think my salary matches this increment, so, I'm not complaining. I'm very fortunate to be able to afford this exercise in ludicrousness.
I recently changed the PSU to https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gRTrxr/fsp-group-power-supply-hg850 (http://www.fsplifestyle.com/PROP161000020/) which seems to have 6 PCIe connectors. Would this be enough?
BTW, get an SSD ASAP, it'll change your world, specially with such a good computer. Your HD is holding you back.
Yes, I keep tweaking it. You may be able to see it here:
I decided to go with ARCTIC Liquid Freezer 360. I was concerned about being able to fit RAM comfortable with the air cooler I had and also, I wanted to minimize noise. It's not a flashy brand but reviews seem to be positive and it seems to be quite quiet because it has six coolers, so, you don't have to run them as fast to have the same effect.
I'm still not sure about the video card, the EVGA FTW Hybrid seems to be the best, but it's quite a bit more expensive.
About the motherboard, now you are make me agonize too: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/NfvZxr,HxH48d/
I think one of the reasons I stayed away from MSI is because the last time I built a machine from scratch was with an MSI motherboard that I was excited about and it ended being a horrible experience. Nothing worked. I don't think it was MSI's fault and even if it was, it was so long ago that it doesn't matter anymore. At the same time I have a few Asus devices at home and they are working great. I'm maximizing my enjoyment here, because on the day to day, there's probably not going to be any difference between the two motherboards.
I already have a 2GB drive to put in the machine, so, I'm not buying one. When I run out of space, I might buy more storage. I'm also getting a Drobo with 5 2TB drives, so, there's plenty of space there too.
I think the upside down case I chose will make installing CPU water cooling system easier. That case you chose is quite a thing. I'm already worried about how wide the one I chose is though. :)
Yes, I noticed it's an inverted case. Are there any potential issues with it? I actually like how roomy it is.
What does custom looping mean? Why that card over the Asus? Just wondering.
Tooth, yes definitely. I already have an HD I'm going to reuse. Thanks for pointing that out, it would have been an issue.
I wouldn't mix different types of ram like that.
So, that processor, despite saying that it supports only up to DDR4-2400, will, in fact, support higher MT/s?
When you say overclocking the ram, do you mean that a DDR4-3333 has to be over clocked to reach 3333MT/s?