Awesome, thank you!
Right on, thanks!
Thanks! Yeah, I was thinking about it, but I'd hate to waste the money only to find out it performs about the same, which is kinda what I expect... Still, $70 isn't much I guess. Thanks again!
Ah, okay, thanks :-)
Right on, thanks! I hate dealing with MiRs, so this works.
So if I'm not going with the AsRock with the MiR and paying the extra $15 anyway, would you recommend the Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING 3 for $79.99 instead? I know it's a lesser chipset, but it seems to have more and better reviews than the AsRock.
Ah, yeah, good point. My dad in particular is really bad at targeted downloads. His desktop looks like a folder containing 1,000 files exploded.
Right on, thanks!
I completely forgot the only reason I bought them a sound card was because the old motherboard's sound stopped working.
Hey, not sure if this was something you wanted to know, but it turns out that issue I mentioned above was resolved with a Bios flash. Cheers!
Hey, thanks, much appreciated! This build is humming along beautifully. Good luck with your build!
Hey, as far as I can tell the kit is working fine. The one and only issue I've had with this computer (and I honestly don't know what the hell is causing it) is that if the computer restarts, the monitor won't turn on, and I have to hard reboot to get the monitor to detect the computer.
Not sure if that's a problem with the monitor or something else...but it's a super weird issue. If I shut down completely and then boot up, it works fine, and otherwise there are absolutely no issue. It's only if I try to restart. I don't think it's a RAM thing, but figured I'd mention it.
Oh nice, this is pared way down to a pretty tempting price point... Much appreciated!
Nice, thanks! That's a tempting little build for them.
Oh, nice. This is definitely tempting as it's the cheapest configuration so far. Thanks!
Very cool, thanks so much! I feel like pretty much anything at this point will be so much better than what they are working with at the moment. This sounds like a solid build for them.
Hey, I added the original parts list in the original message above.
SO, strangely, when I timed my boot up again, it was back to 26 seconds. It seems to switch between 16 seconds sometimes, but much more often 26 seconds. So far I've done these things:
-updated SSD firmware
-disabled "full motherboard logo" splashscreen
-ensured I'm in AHCI mode
I have not turned on fastboot in bios because I've read it makes it harder to get into the bios?
I also was going to use that new storeMI software, but I think you need at least one blank drive to do it? Not really sure...
Anyway, anything else I can try? I know shaving off a few seconds isn't a big deal, but I figured it's worth a shot.
I found a firmware update for the SSD that knocked the boot time down to 17 seconds. I'm pretty happy with that so I'll probably just stop there, though I may eventually try overclocking memory.
Thanks, yeah, i checked that, didn't do the trick. I dunno, the monitor works and the GPU works so long as I don't "restart," so I'll probably just ride it out until I have a way to test this on another monitor and/or GPU.
I appreciate the help, cheers!
Dtwenty, I know, right!? Seems like something I'd have realized while installing drivers.
Yeah, I have the link here: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/support-ssd-firmware
Here's a tip: Skip the actually driver download (scroll past it), and instead download Crucial Storage Executive Optimization & update utility. Once you install that it'll have an "update firmware" option.
For whatever reason, I could not seem to get the standalone firmware update to work for me, but I may have been having another "duh moment." :-p
OS is Windows 10. CPU is Ryzen 2700X, so no integrated graphics, and unfortunately, no, I have no other gpu to test.
The only thing that's confusing me about the whole thing is that this monitor had the same problem with the old computer, which was running off of integrated graphics on an intel chip. I had assumed that meant it was the monitor, but I don't understand why trying to plug the computer into other monitors isn't working.
I'm assuming you should be able to plug an hdmi cable into a tv while the computer is running and it would detect the connection, right? Like there should be no reason you'd have to plug it in while the computer is off for it to detect?
OKAY! :-) Noice. I downloaded the crucial storage executive, which indicated I needed to update the firmware. The update shaved ten seconds off my boot time! So now I'm clocking in at 17 seconds, which seems a lot more like what I was expecting.
Thanks so much for the advice!
Ah, cool, I'll see if I can find drivers for this SSD.
I'm not sure about if I'm strictly booting from the SSD. I don't think I used RAID at all. How would I check this?
I'm gonna give the driver update a try and report back.
Hmmm, I think I'm using AHCI. When I go to Device manager and check under "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" it says "Standard SATA AHCI controller." Unless I'm checking this wrong?
Thanks, I appreciate it.
The render in to out fixed the problem completely. Not a single stutter. Apparently the only other real solution is to use proxies, but I don't know anything about that really so I figured for now at least I'll stick to rendering the clips when need be.
Thanks again, cheers!
Hey, thanks so much for the response. It turns out (it would seem) my inexperience got the better of me. I was told that the "render in to out" option I was avoiding is apparently a necessity for smooth playback. Most clips play fine without rendering, but when I apply enough effects and playback suffers, I'm being told I must render the clip.
I had thought rendering out the clip was sort of a "last resort" option if your rig isn't powerful enough. It's good to know that I didn't just waste $1000 on a brand new computer build :-p
To answer your question though, yes, I had been editing on my older computer which had handled playback even worse.
I think I may have found a strip that should work. If you have any particular brands you suggest, or if this one isn't right, please let me know, thanks! https://www.amazon.com/INVOLT-Individually-Addressable-Waterproof-Decoration/dp/B072Q93T6H/
Thank so much, that was very helpful. So I should specifically be searching "addressable rbg LED strips" it sounds like, with 3-pin header? I don't think I need to go for those advanced ones as (for my computer theme of Halloween) I'm really just going to use orange lights, perhaps with a slow pulse or something.
Swanky! Looking good!
Halloween is every day ;-)
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it! I forgot to mention in the info section I also may add an orange LED strip eventually to brighten up the interior, though I'm kinda liking it a bit understated.
I really hate that. :-/ Some things I understand. Like Roku players that are no longer supported. By time they cut support, the older boxes I had were starting to show signs of normal slow down, lagging, etc. But hell, the last monitor I owned before this I used for probably 15 years, and it's STILL perfectly fine (just small and low res).
Thanks! Yeah, I did try that too (sorry I forgot to mention it), which I would have sworn would work, but after a restart it got stuck in power-save mode again.
I asked over at the Dell Community, and here's what a moderator said:
"A six year old 2012 monitor on Windows 10 without any tested Windows 10 specific driver for the monitor. I can see why it is having issues. Do not use Windows 10 sleep mode. In its power management settings, set both, "Turn off the display", and, "Put the computer to sleep" to Never. Then just set a screensaver to come on after 5 minutes."
That annoyed me to no end as the Mod sounded like he was suggesting it's my fault for having an "old" monitor. Meanwhile it seems pretty obvious that Dell has a nice "planned/forced obsolescence" cycle going with their monitors.
Sure, let's make a monitor reliant on drivers and then stop updating the drivers after two years (last update was 2014). Ugh.
Ah ha, gotcha. Thank you for the confirmation on this. I was getting worried :-p
Oh geez...hold on, am I being a complete idiot, and I'm supposed to double that because I have two sticks!? 1500 + 1500 = 3000?
Ah ha gotcha. Good tip on plugging in the other hard drives after installation. Thanks!
Perfect, thanks for the input!
Ha, right you are :-p
Right on, thanks! I had an idea I was overthinking it.
Awesome, thanks for the comprehensive review for the case. I'm still leaning towards that one as it seems for teh extra bucks, you really do get a nice jump in quality. I'll have 2 HDDs and 2 SSDs in there, and will make use of the optical drive bay, so I definitely like the space. The glass side is something I really wanted in my new build, though I'm starting to rethink that as where I current;y have my desktop, i wouldn't even be able to see inside the darn thing. So...yeah. I either have to reorganize, or maybe save money on a non-glass case.
That's the very discussion I've been having the past couple weeks. Apparently Adobe doesn't utilize the extra cores and overall optimizes better for Intel. I'm still not totally sold on Intel as I feel like the slight loss in Adobe performance might be made up for with better multitasking using Ryzen, but that largely depends on the programs being run.
Oh interesting, so technically moving to Davinci would not make much of a difference in the CPU choice anyway?
Keep us updated on what you choose and how it works out for you. I'm still probably a month or more away from pulling the trigger on anything, so your experience will definitely help me too.
You're welcome! Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Even as I was writing "I'm probably going to go with my Intel build" at the end of my first comment, I was thinking, "But am I really...?" Haha.
Another thought that crosses my mind (much like yours about what if Adobe supports AMD better in the future) is what if I decide to start using or trying other editing software? It seems a little shortsighted of me to build my entire computer around one or two programs that I happen to use a lot right now.
I keep hearing about a video editor called Davinci that is supposed to be pretty good, and free (I think). Honestly, the only reason I even use adobe is because the college where I teach has a "teacher discount" for the whole Adobe suite, and it only costs me $9.99 a year to use.
And then what if at some point you decide to mess around with stuff like 3D rendering, or other software that utilizes the cores/threads? Lots of "what ifs" that all have sorta kept me unsure of my own build as well.
Hey there. So I'm basically building for the same uses as you, and I too originally had planned a Ryzen build. But recently I've been finding that for the Adobe suite, Intel performs better. I actually have a thread about it here if you'd like to see my two build sheets and what everyone recommended based on my usage: https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/279338-here-we-go-again-intel-vs-ryzen-builds
Another related issue is the "hardware acceleration" option that appears to only be available for Intel CPUs when encoding in Adobe Premier. It can speed up the render time as much as 50%. I actually had another thread concerning this issue. There a video linked in that thread as well which shows someone using and talking about the hardware acceleration option: https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/279207-intel-better-than-ryzen-for-abobe-premier-after-quick-sync-update
The long and short of it is that Intel is probably the best choice if you heavily use the adobe suite, as Adobe using core clock speed more efficiently than multiple cores/threads (as I understand it).
There has still been some suggestion to me that in the case of heavy use of multiple programs, a Ryzen CPU with a higher core/thread count may still be the better choice. I don't know exactly where that line is, (when the loss in performance in adobe is made up for with the gain in workflow with the use of multiple programs at once...) but I suspect you'd have to be doing a hell of a lot all at once to really have any gains in that respect.
I'm probably going to go with my Intel build, unless I find something out that I'm not yet aware of.