Managed to score 1000 points on CPU-Z's multithreaded test. I'm more than satisfied with that. Definitely an underrated chip
pretty much ... though i think the internal talk was more like this:
Boss: "We're not selling much AM4 motherboards! We need to get more out the door, any ideas?"
Engineer: "we can say we made a mistake and release a UEFI that lets you overclock any CPU... people love free ****."
Boss: "PERFECT! You're hired!" -leaves room-
Engineer: "But---but....I already---"
200GE is officially a locked part, and only some MoBos from MSI made the oopsie with the UEFI that unlocked them
Great build! You can absolutely overclock the 2200G on the stock cooler, just don't raise voltage too much. Voltage is what makes the heat, the bump in frequency doesn't really add much heat output, and with stock voltage I'm pretty sure you can get 3.6-3.7GHz easy.
The RAM was a good choice as well: with the Ryzen APUs specifically you want fast RAM. Always been the case when using integrated GPUs.
Ryzen 1xxx series are the first generation and ALL AM4 motherboards will support them. It worked out of the box. With the Ryzen 2xxx series, you may need to update the UEFI to get it to work. AMD still sends the boot kits I believe, if you need to get the BIOS updated.
Sorry for the late reply - when you have the x16 as the second slot down, you can fit larger tower coolers easier:
I've sometimes had issues with installing large tower coolers alongside a card with a backplate if the x16 slot is the first slot. The cooler would push against the back of the card rather firmly, so I try to avoid that... Most motherboards have the x16 slot as the second lane now though.
1400 is the king for price/performance in the lower tier - those 50€ or so will unlock twice the threads. ---
After the 1400, you'll still have the gates wide open for a 1700 in the future, should out chose to go that route...
In fact, it may be worth waiting a little bit to see what the Raven Ridge APUs bring first, as those may be right up your alley.
The board can hold 2 sticks - I mentioned that.
I unlocked the 460 - so it performs exactly like a 560 - and I got a great deal on the 460; wouldn't even be able to pick up a 1050 for it at the time.
Depends on the date the motherboard was built. If you buy it new, it'll probably have the latest BIOS onboard. MoBos leave factory with the current stable BIOS. I personally didn't have to flash mine.
Almost all motherboards have built-in Ethernet. This on has gigabit ethernet. No built-in WiFi though: You will see that more in mITX boards.
Onboard sound is already amazing so try that first.
If you want better, go with an external DAC+AMP from someone like FiiO as they're usually a better alternative to internal Soundcards
If you want to go with a soundcard though, the Sound BlasterX AE-5 is really the only one worth getting due to that AMAZING dual amp design!
Makes me want to find a modern motherboard with a green PCB XD
Very strange - 2400DR/2666SR is the standard clock for all Ryzen CPUs (everything above that is considered overclocking even if the sticks are rated for a certain speed).
Maybe try inputting the speed and timings found on the modules manually in BIOS if you have any issues. Should also send a message to Gigabyte Support with your ram and motherboard models so they can look into it: they can't fix problems that they have no knowledge of ;)
Had an issue with one stick coming in DOA (I bought them as two single sticks because that's all they had) but TEAM Group were great at getting me a new one. Since then, they've been super stable. There are now 8GB sticks at 3000MHz which I'd recommend over these, and I intend to pick up a pair soon myself.
UEFI updated to latest version?
Should have no problem, but I'd upgrade the GPU if you were serious about it: a used GTX-970 would be better performance for about the same money, if you can find it.
Not required, just a suggestion. Otherwise, with the 1400's 4 cores and 8 threads, something like Xsplit or OBS will have no problem streaming and keeping respectable framerates in games.
Do Overclock though... Makes a big difference.
You should be able to get the RAM past 2133 just fine even without the update... You should be able to simply run those sticks in XMP/AMP profiles, as 3200 is within spec for that board even now.
Where did you get the stock Wraith Spire cooler if you bought an 1800X ?? O.o
Overclocking doesn't induce instability: the wrong OC settings do, but if you overclock properly, it's rock stable forever.
The 1800X is basically a 1700 overclocked from factory (with XFR enabled, which automatically overclocks you a bit further).
That said, if you're not comfortable overclocking yourself, it's alright. That's the whole reason those chips exist.
Where does it state that? It's the exact same cores as all other Ryzen parts.
I hit 3.7 on the stock cooler at stock voltages (yes stealth, should update that one day) with no issues and am waiting for my Maelstrom AM4 upgrade kit to ship so I can watercool it and bring it further. Will aim for 4.0-4.2
600W for an overclocked i7+980 is pushing it, yes... That said, I'm not running an i7 or a 980 here so why mention it? In it's most powerful form it stuck to an i5+480. This Corsair unit is more than enough for this build, and has plenty of extra buffer.
Also, 80+ ratings are efficiency, nothing to do with actual quality (even though a gold rated power supply will usually be be higher quality anyways by default).
Well, I plan on overclocking the C2Q to 3-3.2GHz so it should be OK - otherwise, I have my eyes set on a 750ti Windforce which has a blue PCB that would match the motherboard, RAM, and Gammaxx cooler
I'm thinking of picking up another one because I have a Q8300 and a mITX (kinda) MoBo ... Sadly, my last single-rail LP card is the W4100 and I really don't want to pair it with a Core2Quad :/
No, I meant 2 chassis headers and one CPU header - sorry for the confusion.
They're all 4-pin PWM
Well, that PSU isn't staying so I didn't care TOO much.
By now almost all 2133-3300MHz RAM should work just fine - At 3000MHz, you're good, especially with a company like Adata.
That's a BIOS thing and it was updated pretty quickly.
That's a load of bull XD
An mATX, ATX and ITX board will overclock identically if they are built the same way. This may not be the best board out there, but if I used the best of the best, I MIGHT get an extra 50-100MHz out of the chip. :) Not worth going X370 if you only want to OC - you go X370 if you want Dual-GPUs
Ummmmmm... Are you talking about his 1500X build? ... Literally the only part we used that was the same was the MSI motherboard, and since it's the cheapest AM4 MoBo currently that's pretty much a given... I also managed to squeeze an SSD in there ;) - and I went with an RX460 because I knew the 500 series would be launching soon. RX580 going in next week, along with a new-new PSU (since the 650W unit I had waiting for it was a DOA :( )
2+1 - I had a leftover 4-fan hub from the Maelstrom so I am currently using that, and feeding it 5V from an unused USB header to keep it super quiet.
5 fans in all and I can barely hear it under my desk.
It worked just fine out of the box, but I couldn't really hold a stable overclock on the fresh BIOS - after the update it was much better, and even at stock speeds, performance increased (as shown in my benchmarks)
Yes, B350 can OC just fine.
I ordered a 2x8GB kit of 3400MHz RAM - while I doubt it will sustain 3400MHz, it will be an option for the future.
The 4GB sticks are there just for now.
Honestly... Not worth it. They're about the same.
For the extra money you'd put on the 1500X, you may as well pick up a better aftermarket cooler.
Drop down to medium then - Jesus.
And if you can find an RX470 for $130CAD I'll be super impressed.
460 can play both of those games on average settings... Not everything has to be cranked to ultra to be enjoyable.
My benchmarks are up, if you're interested :)
Most games won't ask for over 8GB anyways - I do have a pair of 16GB DIMMs in my 1700 build if I REALLY wanted to overbuild the rig, but remember that this is supposed to be a budget build :P
I also did say in the write-up that using just one stick of 8GB would be better as you could upgrade to 16 easily.
First set of benchmarks are up - doing 3DMark now
First ones are up now - doing 3DMark now...
Biostar also already revealed their X370 and B350 ITX boards:
Nope, Gigabyte and Asus are both also working on B350 ITX boards. Regular 'ol mainstream choosers.
Yah, 4 in total.
There will be mITX boards with overclocking support out by the time RYZEN 3 launches.
No, it has 2 more mounted sideways beside the PCIex16 slot
You probably didn't read the paragraph where I explained I didn't want to push the CPU further without better cooling... I'm waiting for DeepCool to release an AM4 kit for the Maelstrom so I can mount mine on the motherboard.
With a 240mm liquid cooler and the RM650X I've got sitting in my closet, I'll feel comfortable pushing it. The goal will be 4.0GHz.
My prices are all Canadian Dollars :P
Well... This is budget tho. Didn't think anyone would wanna see gaming scores that low :P XD