I agree with previous posters. Asrock is a great MOBO maker for LGA 1155. I think Mincading is correct. You are spending money in the wrong place for a gaming build. You should spend at least as much on the GPU as the CPU. So if you spend $200-$225 and on a CPU and $200-$225 on a GPU, you will only have $200-$250 left for the rest of your components combined. I don't think that is very realistic.
Look at tomshardware.com. They always have build recommendations in given budgets. Its at least good for some hints as to what is possible.
Since that article is old, you will be able to do even better than it for the similar money. They recently did a review off processors available to the sub $200 market as well. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427.html
The i5-3570 is a venerable chip, but probably not right for your budget. :(
I like it, though, only for an HTPC. I think there are better form factors for desktops personally. This has several trade offs to make it better for that purpose, but nothing gained for a gaming build. I think it would be a real ***** to actually construct something in there. (But nowhere near as difficult as a silverstone steel fortress mini-ITX case.)
Linus reviewed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhjoYbVX1XU
At the same price point you can get a corsair 400R. Which would be my preference depending upon application.
Linus Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-u7FdeLSMI
What can I say though, I am in love with corsair cases at this point lol.
It will run at the slowest speed. Are you even running your 2400 @2400 speed? (Its actually 1200 Mhz but dual channel = x 2 for a total of 2400). Get a free program like CPU-Z to check. It has a memory tab that displays that information.
Just because a memory CAN run at a slated speed does not mean you have configured your motherboard to do so. You generally have to mess with it to get it to optimal settings. (People get overclock-able memory so they can overclock their CPU without having to down-clock their RAM).
Some people like to run more memory and play around with programs like RAMdisk. Some people prefer to have their memory and max speed. What is YOUR preference?
I want you to seriously consider getting a 120GB SSD for your OS drive and add a 1 or 2 TB drive later. (When you have money, the prices probably won't come down anytime soon). The reason is, an SSD is a huge performance boost for any build.
It is a serious pain in the *** to move from a 1TB drive to a (smaller) SSD at some future date, but it is as easy as pie to add a data drive to an existing system.
If nothing else, think of the future and partition your hard drive with a 100GB partition that you install the OS into, leaving the remaining 900GB for data. Then, if you ever decide you want to upgrade you can easily port that 100GB partition onto an SSD with a free program like "Acronis True Image Western Digital Edition". Just a thought. (Otherwise you are looking at a complete re-install.)
I have messed around with this a bunch in the last couple of years, upgrading 2 laptops with SSD's and my main gaming desktop as well.
Linus (Of LinusTechTips on Youtube) recommends the AMD version of RamDisk. I have used the "free" version offered by RAMdisk themselves before, but it has limited sizes. I think the AMD version is unlocked. http://www.radeonmemory.com/software_4.0.php
Consider the Corsair 500R for your case: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-500rwt
I love the vengeance too. Corsair is really ahead of the game as far as cases go.
I'll nicely ping them because apparently that is where the issue is.
Don't forget to add windows 7 to your build if needed. You may also consider a case with built in USB 3.0 ports on the front. The motherboard you have selected DOES come with an internal header. Consider the "Cougar Solution" in the same price range: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-solution. I like the cougar company for fans, but I haven't heard that much about their cases. It only has a single USB 3.0 on the front, but that is standard in this price range. (Though it does have a second USB 2.0 port. The case you selected has 4 USB 2.0 front ports which maybe you were looking for.)
This thing is effing sick Asus P8z77: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-p8z77ideluxe
Note the daughter board on top.
Linus Tech Tips unboxing: http://youtu.be/TqZEmVmdO7A
Edit: No, probably not worth it. Certainly not in the "value" segment.
Oliver and johnwaskins nailed it. Non-stock coolers offer cooler operational temperatures, even if you are not going to overclock. They come with better thermal paste, and do a better job of removing heat. Plus like Philip said, most of them are quieter than stock. (The stock intel cooler in "performance mode" on a i7-990x is louder than my 2 fans on my H80 in performance mode)
So I say yes, go ahead and upgrade to a non-stock cooler because it cannot hurt, and it might just help!
There are some very cheap air coolers that would allow you to overclock. I have never tried to OC that particular chip, but my Phenom x2 550 (stock @3.1) wasn't real stable over 3.6Ghz. Though I also unlocked 2 cores to have a quad core. Cooled with CM H50 so heat was never the issue.
Looking through some threads out there it seems that people are able to take your chip higher. Some are claiming stable at 4Ghz.
When you modify your Front Side Bus (FSB) to overclock, it will change the frequency your Memory is accessed as well. You might make sure it can take the increased speed, or see if you can turn them down before bumping the FSB up. (Some MOBO's don't have that option).
How it works is core cpu clock x FSB = Cpu frequency
core memory clock x FSB = memory frequency
In that case look into getting a Hyper 212+ (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1) or something similar.
Also consider getting a cooler that you could use for your new build. Then just switch it out once you get your new build setup. That 212+ performs very, very well, so it should be considered. It has gone up in price though.
Yes, though the point I am making is Price/Performance is measurable entity defined as "Value". This transcends price brackets and allows you to look at all cards combined and pick a single card out of the list and label it "BEST VALUE". The 7850 is the winner winner chicken dinner. Whether you ultimately select a different card based on individual preference or needs is immaterial. :)
General rule of thumb is to go with the single best GPU you can afford (in budget). xfire/sli take up more space and power. There may also be issues with micro-stuttering. Plus murphy's law prevails as well. More components = more places for something to fail. However, it would be kinda nice to have a built in backup, though onboard graphics do a pretty damn good job of that nowadays. (You can game on HD4000 graphics till your 670 returns from warranty repair). A 670 with custom water cooling from Swifttech would be a great solution that would serve you for a long time.
Don't plan on being able to find a 670 to SLI and double your graphics capability a year from now. You will probably find a (theoretical) 770 or 780 in a similar price range with better power use/price/performance ratios.
I believe Smily was stating his opinion (and general consensus) that the 7850 has the best value of any card regardless of price bracket. Then he backed it up with a link to an independent site corroborating his opinion with fact. This spot was previously held by the 560, (or maybe it was the 560 ti), if I remember correctly.
Discernible value being a function of price and performance simultaneously, you can not, therefore, pick out the price and speak to only the price bracket. Some people cannot afford the best "VALUE" card, while others are willing to pay more to eek out more performance (at a lower "VALUE"). Neither of those situations has bearing on which card has the best performance per dollar spent.
You are very correct that some games prefer specific models, and even firmware versions. So there IS more to the story than saying xyz card is the best. But as a general statement, I believe Smily's comment holds water.
I think the blue is a joke personally.
If you have a storage situation where speed doesn't matter. Get the caviar green. If you are wanting to run an OS off of it, get a caviar black.
I can tell you our own experience with the 2TB models is both the WD caviar black and the enterprise WD models WAY WAY WAY outperform the Seagate Barracuda enterprise models. (Real world testing, transfers of 300-500 GB.
The Caviar blue is considered an "in between" model. Master of nothing I think it has too many trade offs to be considered for an OS or storage drive.
The highest end systems are all socket 2011. In order to answer this question perfectly you must provide information on how YOU want to use the system. Do you encode video, render graphics or have an obscene amount of money? If so then LGA2011 is for you. If not then go with 1155. There is plenty enough horsepower to be had for most uses (Even encoding and the like).
Nifty Phillip, keep on moving forward!
wow, what a flipping awesome feature!
Seems like the "your own written review" can cite any source. So if someone gets a hard-on to post Toms Hardware or Hardware Canucks reviews or something should be easy enough to do. Good idea, I have wondered why some people rate parts low. On Newegg you can look and see, "oh, %30 of the bad reviews are things that make me think they don't know how to use it". Or "hmm, %50 fail rate, probably not good".
Yeah, the features keep rolling out. Its really cool to see it unfold.
Good for you!
YES!!!! +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1
Consider the Antec Eleven Hundred PcPartPicker Link or the upgraded Antec Nine Hundred.
I love the looks of most the Corsair series of cases. they really bring a lot to the table. They tend toward weak thermodynamics though, so do your research. The 500R in particular looks stellar, AND has good thermodynamics!
Yeah, that processor/GPU should destroy most current games. No need to overclock yet. I'm sad that your case is too narrow for the side fan. I trend toward the Factory sealed liquid cooling route myself, so I wouldn't notice stuff like that. I also don't know that I would have gone with a Rosewill power supply. The (current) price doesn't even justify it as I got a similarly priced 750 Watt Corsair model.
Excellent choices in boot drive, but where is your data drive? 128GB is way too small, and I suspect you will fill it very soon. I understand not wanting to buy an HDD, they are still overpriced.
Do you want my opinion of your component selections? Here:
Other stuff: No opinion
HDD: Missing :)
(You'll notice that contrary to my words above, I don't believe you made any "POOR" choices.) I hope you enjoy your rig for years to come, destroying any game that comes along!
Good part selection. I think it all works well together. The PSU is perfect! You spent about the same on your GPU and CPU, so thats good. In the future the only thing you might add is a cheap SSD for boot/game load speed.
wow, the 556 can go much higher than my 550. Now due to a glitch, I didn't get the BE version, but I got it up to 3.56ghz stable on stock voltages. Messing with voltages I might have gotten it to 3.7ghz, but most complain that was the limit for the 550. Decent gaming chip in its day.
Poor AMD :(
I remember when they were cool too. Now they have trouble competing in EVERY CPU market segment.
Sigh, I sure hope they don't bring down the GPU side of the house with it...
For awesome/quiet fans that move air THROUGH the radiator, go with Noctua's. 120mm non-PMW or 120mm PMW.
If not that, do a decent amount of research. Not just any case fan will provide you with excellent static pressure, and that is the value that is most important when dealing with radiators.
There is a cheaper model I am fond of made by Cougar. The Vortex series is pretty serious about moving air quietly. I cannot recommend the PWM version for a Horizontal application, but the 3 pin non-PWM version would serve you just fine. (PWM is Pulse Width Modulation). Cougar Vortex Newegg Search
H80 with stock fans is very quiet I think. So I got a couple of the 3 pin Cougar Vortex fans and I am using them as case fans to try and get to a positive pressure in the case.
VERY good for your first build. Good component choices and good wiring!
Hmmm, TL;DR??? Notice in his build comments where he says how he acquired Win 7 Ult. :)
Very nice! It will be a phenomenal gaming build! In my opinion the HAF 922 is a bit dated. Newer cases feature front USB 3.0 support (with the inclusion of USB 3.0 support on ivy bridge, we should see an increase in the number of devices that support that standard), rubber grommets around wiring holes, and larger/better placed CPU cutouts for easier installation of aftermarket coolers. (Don't get me wrong, I like my HAF 922, I'm just sayin).
You might have gone non-reference on the GPU's but maybe you are trying to get the heat out of the case. I am not a fan of the 800D myself because of the poor thermal-dynamics in comparison with other cases in its price point. Nothing wrong with the power supply as some have suggested. It will serve you through several builds no doubt.
Good point! It will significantly improve performance. Keep the 1TB WD Caviar Black as a data drive though.
No such thing as overkill other than the price. It will only pull what it needs...
For gaming it is all about the GPU (graphic card, sometimes called video card or VGA card if you are older). This system features an AMD Radeon 7850. They are very good. Check out graphics card benchmarks (very generic) to see where a graphics card family tends to fall. Passmark benchmarks. The only other thing that REALLY matters is what is the resolution of your monitor? 1920x1080 is harder for a GPU to game at max setting then 1440x900. Some games can be more processor intensive. Especially games like (old) World of Warcraft. So the basic answer to your question is yes, Lusst's build is wonderful for gaming.
That processor is perfect for gaming. Just like the i5-750, and i5-2500k before it....(Especially future proofing into 2013 and beyond when all games will have multi-thread support).
Everything looks pretty solid. If you are going to upgrade the Graphics card later, don't go overboard with that 500 W power supply or you may run into issues. The 7770's were on sale for $99 earlier and probably offer you the best value Graphics card if you are interested. Try to catch them at that price. Right now they are in the $120-$130's.
How do you like that tower? I have avoided Raidmax as reviews state they are "cheap feeling", but that is a very feature rich case for the money.
Cable Management: This is VERY difficult at first, and generally takes me longer than the initial build. What you do is if there is room behind the back panel for your power wires, you run everything back there.
Nice setup. The two SSD's are kinda throwing me too. Bet you love those monitors!
For this to make sense there also needs to be some way for you to let others know you need help. Consider joining one of the many forums that already exist out there. Use PcPartPicker to create "BBCode Markup" (button underneath "Price Breakdown by Merchant" tab near the top of the "System Build" page. Most of the forums I belong to use BB Code. It creates a neat build post you can copy and paste into any forum message. Try any of the following forums: (all of them have helpful active members).
* Toms Hardware
* 'H'ard OCP
Maybe someday this site will have its own forums, but I kinda like it the way it is, as the best build tool ever made.
If this is what you can do in your "spare time", I cannot WAIT to see what comes down the pipe!
FYI: Your site has saved me about $100 off the build I am doing right now, and I'm not even done ordering components yet!