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Comment reply on asmit's Completed Build: Beast

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

There are just so many things that bother me about your "Beast" that I'm not going to nitpick my way through them all; instead, I'm going to show you an alternate build I think might have been better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $139.95 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS11X Performa CPU Cooler $29.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard $70.98 @ Newegg
Memory Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $70.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive $79.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer $39.98 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $29.99 @ SuperBiiz
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $674.83
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-21 19:30 EST-0500

If you want or need a discrete video card, you could try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor $78.88 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS11X Performa CPU Cooler $29.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard $70.98 @ Newegg
Memory Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $70.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive $79.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card $79.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer $34.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $29.99 @ SuperBiiz
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $688.76
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-21 19:47 EST-0500

Comment reply on asmit's Completed Build: Beast

  • 61 months ago
  • 3 points

Yeah, but he did post it to a site where everyone could comment on it and named it "Beast"; that title implies a machine with way-better-than-average specs and performance, and this one isn't it. I think he might want to rethink the title, at the very least.

Comment reply on evilpanda's Completed Build: High School Rig

  • 61 months ago
  • 3 points

"History of Gordon Gecko, 101", evidently. :)

Comment reply on evilpanda's Completed Build: High School Rig

  • 61 months ago
  • 3 points

Decent specs. But 12 monitors?

Comment reply on asmit's Completed Build: Beast

  • 61 months ago
  • 6 points

Look, I'm all for AMD APU builds... but I have to say, if this is a beast, it's more feral kitten than roaring lion.

Comment reply on Deskjetser's Completed Build: Daily driver rig

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

All that and Win 7? Nice hardware specs though... you should be able to crush games for the next 3-4 years (turns green with envy).

Comment reply on JThursty's Completed Build: First Build

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, had the same problem with my front panel audio connector cable being too short on my last build; I went to performance-pcs.com for mine, you might want to take a look. Nice build, otherwise.

Comment reply on niofalpha's Completed Build: Red Hornet - First custom build

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build. Since you have the p/s fan pulling cool air from under the case, you might think about getting the system up off the carpet.

Comment reply on beanusp's Completed Build: FreeNAS - PC-Q25B, E3C226D2I

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

I surmise that the OS is on the (what looks to be a) PNY SSD. What RAID did you use, and what is the performance like?

Comment reply on natedgreat3's Completed Build: Samwise Gaming Build

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

hmmm... Your cooler's fine, but I'd say if you need to mount the fans on the outside, you probably need a different (bigger) case. Question: are you running the OS on the Transcend or the Intel SSD?

Comment reply on EllwoodSouth's Completed Build: AMD Beast

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

*time

Comment reply on KAB1968's Completed Build: Dual Monitor Work Station

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow, prices are high where you live (Canada?); I can see why you don't have much video card. I was wondering, is that all the cable management you're going to do? And what is an "SLI SSD"? Otherwise, I can see this machine lasting you quite a while.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1500 max potential."

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

Looks to me like a good solid build. Will we get pics when you're done? :)

Comment reply on NinARM1's Completed Build: Over9000 Ghetto HTPC-in-a-Box

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

I LOL'd for a good 5 mins. I think you just summed up how we all have felt about our computers at one time or another. Might not be enough +1's on the website for this one... :)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Now, how exactly would I be out an extra $250? You're the one trying to talk me into spending the money on a i7. To split up the existing RAM and use it for a new build means I'd have to buy another board anyway. I don't think I'm the only one making unwarranted assumptions here. Okay... splitting the RAM and pairing it with a 8350 and a new board certainly won't save a ton of money, nor will it get me more consistent frame rates than an i5, and if it turns out that I do want to upgrade the CPU I'm limited to a 9590 as a max upgrade (unless AMD gets moving and builds something better; yeah, right). At least if I go i5, I have the option to go all the way to an i7-4790k (but I won't need to, that's not what this RAM spinoff build would be all about). I'll be blunt. This was an excellent conversation until you let your "I know everything and you're an idiot for not agreeing with me" attitude show up and butt in. What I said was a PROPOSAL, no more, no less; there are still a number of ways I could go with this system or the next that I build, one idea among many.

A former colleague of mine, an IT tech where I used to work, noted that I wasn't running the latest BIOS (ok UEFI, but still) for this board and that I might try updating that, THEN sticking an 8350 or 70 on it. His thought was that since the power problems had been known for a while, MSI may have come out with an update to mitigate them. I'll admit that since I hadn't had any problems for a long time, and my long range plans were to save up and build a maxed out system a year or two out, I hadn't looked at that. I'd have to forgo having a separate system to run Linux distros on, at least in the short term, but it might be worth looking into. I'm not one to flash boards unless there's really no other way to fix a problem.

Comment reply on eopest's Completed Build: Quiet AMD workhorse for Xmas

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Be aware that if you run yours like I did mine, you might need to get extensions and / or SATA cables with smaller plugs. I got mine from performance-pcs.com.

edit: this is what I bought;

APEVIA 10" Audio Extension Cable CVTAUDIOE25 (1)

Premium Silver Wire USB 3.0 20-Pin Male to Female Internal Extension Cable MDY-IHEC-USB3-SW (1)

NEW Akasa PROSLIM Super Slim SATA Cable - 30cm - Black AK-CBSA05-30BK (2)

NEW Akasa PROSLIM Super Slim SATA Cable - 50cm - Blue AK-CBSA05-50BL (1)

I needed the USB 3.0 cables for the USB 3 card reader, and the audio header cable for the front mic and headphone jacks. The slim SATA cables were so I could mount the SSD on the case floor in front of the power supply without kinking the cable, and have a couple of spares. I didn't use the case's fan controller, I used the headers on the motherboard to give me BIOS control of the fans. My big goof was the non-modular power supply, but it was EVGA, highly rated, and cheap. Oh, and the USB jacks next to the power button? I still had a USB 3.0 to 2.0 header cable I got at Frys so the two blue jacks are plugged into that, and the white one is plugged into a spare 2.0 header on the motherboard. Everything works, and I can pull data off the camera cards at USB 3 speeds.

Comment reply on Robertbert's Completed Build: First Build

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

What I did to get the CPU fan speeds down was to play with the fan profiles in the BIOS. The other thing was to not go with the stock fan at all. (To be brutally honest, even though Intel's stock fans can be noisy at load, AMD's are worse. I've had enough of them, I know.) I was looking at the possibility of a mild OC as well, so that's why I went with the Zalman on mine.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes. And I wouldn't be running less than an i5. I find it very interesting that you feel it's ok to run an FX-8350 but not an i5 which has more consistent framerates under load as an "serious enthusiast" machine. Not that the above proposed spinoff was going to ever be that from the conception. Or that the article is almost 2 years old now. sigh

Look, I don't bother building gaming comps for more than 2-3 years out anymore, I haven't for over 10 years now. Why? Because of what happened with Bungie and Halo. I had been a Mac guy for a while, played Marathon some and liked it but was tired of the fact that all the AAA titles seemed to take a long time to get ported to Mac. So, when Bungie (a Mac-only developer at that time) announced Halo was going to come out on PC, I decided I'd had enough and that I was going to build a PC that would play every AAA PC title for the next 5 years, minimum. I did that. Then Microsoft bought Bungie. (Halo, when it did come back to the PC, was a poor port of the Xbox version that ran like crap on my fairly up-to-date PC of that time.) I decided then that I would never again build a gaming PC designed to outlast the current game development cycle UNLESS I planned to play the best of the current games at the highest settings possible; that meant maxing out the specs and spending as much as I could to get next gen hardware. This spin-off concept isn't designed to do that, it's so that I can fork the hardware into a moderate PC to play most games at (what I feel are) reasonable settings. The video card is the most important part of a setup like that, and the midrange ($200 -250) priced cards are very good at exactly that.

Look, I get that you don't like the i5 series, probably because its existence means that more casual (and cheap) players can keep the lowest common hardware specs for games low and slows down game development. I get that, I really do. But me, I'm the kind of guy that if I want a fast car I'll build a race car or buy a R8 when I decide I want that kind of speed. But if I want to give a little boost to my Golf, I'll just drop a GTi turbo 4 into it, not the V6 turbo from an S5; there are too many other changes I'd need to make to balance the performance. So, yeah, we'll have to just disagree on this (if I do decide to do it).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

That chart is interesting. The i5 tested seems looks to be 20% better in its framerate delta than the FX8350. And the i7 tested is a peak 20% faster than both. I'm just going to extrapolate (yes, its speculative, I know) the performance delta of the i5 and i7 we were discussing and say that I don't think the 20% jump in performance is worth the 50% increase in cost. Not on a spun off build and not when $100 more spent on the video card will net me 50% more framerate; or the ability to drop a larger SSD into the spinoff. (I was planning to incorporate an SSD into the spinoff machine; taking that $100 savings on the chip means I could go with a 480 - 512GB drive over a 240 - 256GB one. Doing that means I can eliminate a platter drive, keep boot times down and still have decent room for games.)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

yeah, I thought about doing it this way. This board seems to have a rep for not being reliable with the faster chips, which is why I haven't done it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok, say I buy a i7-4790K and a DDR3 board and pair it with the medium-speed RAM I already have: I've just paid $100 or so extra to try and speed up the processing of memory bandwidth that would have better spent on a better video card or larger SSD, at least as far as the longevity of this particular spinoff machine is concerned. Paying the extra for HT makes no real sense to me if current games and the games postulated to emerge during the projected lifetime of the system (1, maybe 2 years) aren't going to use it. If for instance, I hadn't jumped at getting the HD7850 on sale but instead gotten a HD 7950 or 7970, I definitely would not be thinking about breaking the system apart at this point, because a mild OC on the card, the FX chip or both would push the system replacement envelope another year. Man, that went a little farther than I thought it would. Hmmm... let's just say that blunting the potential of a $300 current-gen i7 by pairing it with my recycled medium speed RAM isn't going to help this machine be more useful in its projected lifetime. I feel that taking that cost difference between an i5 and an i7 and applying it other places in the system will.

Comment reply on Gee-Ohh's Completed Build: Full tower rig under construction

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

Neither of those are FM2 chips and won't work on this board.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Interesting... I have the same objection to the i7-46xx and 47xx chips. The first spinoff of my existing hardware that I proposed isn't an upgrade so much as a mitosis of the current build, just with a better video card, less power consumption and slightly better mainstream performance. If I'm going to reuse part of my current DDR3, I don't really see the point of hamstringing $300+ worth of aging-socket i7 with it if I don't need to. If I'm going to spend the money to go i7, I'm going up to the latest socket and RAM for it; imo, that would be a true upgrade. To be honest, if I had made a better motherboard selection, this whole conversation would have been moot; I'd just OC the 8120 and drop a 280 or 285 or 780 or maybe even a 970 in and call it done for another year or so (it'll probably take that long for Microsoft to get Win 10 decently correct) THEN I'd build something like that 5820K box I spec'd out above. We should have a better handle on what resources a multithreaded AAA title will actually need to run by then.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point
  1. Of course not. You need a 2-3 card Crossfire or SLI setup to power something like that. And if I'm going to spend the money to do that, I'd "futureproof" it by building it with a LGA2011-3 i7, not anything that requires DDR3.

  2. How far are we talking here? If I want to go with more cores now and not have to switch sockets again for 2-3 years, then again its gonna be a 58xxK / DDR4 setup, as I just can't see spending $300 on a chip just to eke out a little more lifetime of the DDR3 I already have. And why drop a chip optimized for workstation loads into a situation where it won't ever see them?

  3. Yes, I am. If I do spin off the parts in the above fashion it will be a pretty moderate rebuild, with none of the major components going over $200, and the life of the build expected to be 3-4 years max. I don't need either a i7-4790K or Xeon E3-1231 V3 or their extra expense for that, an i5 will push a r9-270x or a GTX 770 just fine.

Another way to do this is to retire all of the DDR3 with the FX-8120 to the Linux build and build a complete new box for 1440p gaming. If I'm going that far, then I'll just jump to the next socket up and have that much more life expectancy. Most AAA games don't even use all the extra threads available to them via HT, let alone all the cores in a quad core chip, so once we get a glut of multithreaded top quality titles, I'd have to switch to Haswell-E to push the card(s) needed anyway.

You seem to have something against the i5 chips. What is it?

Comment reply on radarmackay's Completed Build: Z97X Killer with i3 4330 and 2400 RAM

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

My question is: why drop in the 4690K at all if you're not going to game or do other high performance computing like running a server or multiple VMs or streaming on Twitch? Heck, if you're just going to be surfing and doing general tasks like homework you could have gone something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $139.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS11X Performa CPU Cooler $29.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard $69.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $89.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive $78.98 @ OutletPC
Case Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer $34.75 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $668.65
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-04 06:42 EST-0500

or an equivalent Pentium G3258 build. (Ok, so I like the look of the 350D case. SOSUME.)

Comment reply on radarmackay's Completed Build: Z97X Killer with i3 4330 and 2400 RAM

  • 61 months ago
  • 4 points

My suggestion to you would be that you come up with some alternatives for the guy to consider instead of just whining about what you see as his mistakes. Got a case in mind? Let's see it. Too much PSU? What do you think he should have used? Is the MB too expensive? Tell us what you think he should have gotten instead. Be constructive with your comments, anyone can just whine and moan.

Comment reply on radarmackay's Completed Build: Z97X Killer with i3 4330 and 2400 RAM

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

It's going to bother a lot of commenters that you went all out on everything BUT the CPU, case and a GPU. Not me, though. Don't worry about stress testing for now; that i3 isn't really overclockable, and you're not gaming with it anyway. Just because parts may say "Gaming" on them doesn't make them better for everyday uses; it's like buying a Mercedes G550 SUV to do stuff you could have used a GMC Yukon for. When you design a build, you really need to have in mind what uses you will have for it, now and down the road, and I don't think this is the case with this build. Did you actually buy all the parts at one time or the different pieces at different times?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

No matter what Intel CPU you get, you have to worry about the lifetime of the socket, since they change at the drop of a hat. If I were to go i7, then I wouldn't be able to reuse my current RAM since I'd be going i7-58xx which means DDR4. An unlocked i5 without HT is fine for 1080p gaming now as I don't see moving to 4K gaming for quite a while yet. If I were to build an i7 box, this is what it would look like, at a minimum:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor $299.99 @ Micro Center
CPU Cooler Corsair H75 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $74.99 @ B&H
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard $240.98 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $244.99 @ Adorama
Storage Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $104.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $99.98 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card $549.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Arc XL ATX Full Tower Case $115.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $149.98 @ OutletPC
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $18.75 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Monitor Acer G276HLGbd 60Hz 27.0" Monitor $199.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard $49.99 @ Newegg
Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless Laser Mouse $84.99 @ Newegg
Headphones Logitech G230 Headset $39.99 @ Amazon
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $2365.57
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-04 04:23 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Maxed out 1080p gaming as cheap as possible."

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

If you decide you need Hyperthreading at some point you can go with an i7. You can also go with the stock cooler if you don't plan to overclock, but I dropped the 212 EVO in because I wanted a quieter setup. This price is without an OS.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $199.99 @ Micro Center
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $28.75 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $134.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $79.98 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $104.99 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card $339.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $68.66 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Newegg
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $1017.34
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-03 16:29 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How is this config looking after almost 2 years?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Well... When I bought the MB, it was on sale and I didn't find out about the OC problems with this board series (low phase count) until way afterwards; that's why I never OC'd the chip. The 7850 is getting kinda long-in-the-tooth, and frankly, I'm not one to run around to find a matching card to Crossfire when the cards are damn near 2 years old. Also, with this setup even without an OC I'm running close to 500W which is closer to the top rating of the p/s than I'd like (and this is an early model HX650; I pulled it from another build from 6-7 years back). I have thought about doing this; once Win 10 comes out (I'm running the Dev Preview on a different, newer build; I like it, so far) I pull this config apart and split up the RAM; take this board, CPU and 8GB and start a Linux box for Steam games (I like Linux Mint w/ Cinnamon, or Lunbuntu or LXLE) and go with a i5 / GTX970 or 960 combo with the rest of the RAM. Cases won't be a problem, I have both a Antec Solo (original) and a Sonata III, although I might splurge for a Fractal Design or Nanoxia case for the i5 instead.

Comment reply on Dboy6501's Completed Build: Holy Grail of PC Gaming

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Something else that bothers me: where is the optical drive that is in the parts list? There looks like there is no place to install it in that Case Labs case, not with all the watercooling loops in the way.

Comment reply on BRichards86's Completed Build: Stage 1 Workstation first build

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Because he is going to get a Quadro GPU later.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Guess I better look at bumping the budget to $1500 then. If I'm going to stick a i7-4790K in this config, then it's gonna have to get some sorta liquid cooling. And an SSD for the OS. And faster RAM. And a different case (I have an Antec Three Hundred; it's what my current machine is running in running in right now) that's either quieter or has a window. Thanks though; you've given me some better ideas on how I want to setup this next build.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My $600 Gaming Rig"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Well, you could go with the Seasonic in your parts list or this EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650w fully modular p/s.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My $600 Gaming Rig"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

When pcony restructured his configuration, that was the one he used, so I just used that. (I didn't see the deleted comment.)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My $600 Gaming Rig"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

See my reply to Pcony below.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My $600 Gaming Rig"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Faster CPU, faster RAM, WAY faster video card, SSD for the OS and game installs, better case (and it doesn't have any bright red LED fans in it that you would need to change out). What he did was up your specs and performance by what I estimate is a minimum of 30% by spending another 15% of your budget. Even if you just sub in that R9 270X for the R7 250 in your config, you'd be way better off.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My $600 Gaming Rig"

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

I think Vapor916's build would be better than what you have, even after your changes.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor $96.69 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $26.75 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $50.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $76.97 @ OutletPC
Storage A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $59.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $51.85 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card $144.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Core 2500 ATX Full Tower Case $39.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $19.99 @ NCIX US
Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer $16.95 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $19.99 @ Amazon
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $605.14
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-27 00:11 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Build for 3D (Blender) / some gaming - $ tag stings - advice?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm thinking for that kinda money you could also do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor $299.99 @ Micro Center
CPU Cooler Corsair H75 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $74.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard $244.98 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $193.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $104.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $98.99 @ NCIX US
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card $549.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Arc XL ATX Full Tower Case $113.99 @ Directron
Power Supply Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $99.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $18.75 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Monitor Acer G276HLGbd 60Hz 27.0" Monitor $186.80 @ Amazon
Keyboard Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard $49.99 @ Newegg
Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless Laser Mouse $84.99 @ Newegg
Headphones Logitech G230 Headset $34.99 @ Newegg
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $2247.40
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-26 23:39 EST-0500

(I changed the headset to what I have. I love mine.) Sub in your case, monitor and SSD, sell your motherboard, and you're ready to get the rest of it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Again, thanks for the reply. I thought about it some more and came up with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $179.99 @ Micro Center
CPU Cooler Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $63.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $149.98 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $104.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card $179.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $69.33 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $34.00 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $939.24
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-26 22:38 EST-0500

Maybe I didn't have my price selections configured correctly...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow! Thanks! You beat me like a stepchild....

Except, yeah, that case would have to go, I'd have to replace that noisy-*** stock cooler and I'm not comfortable running a p/s that close to the edge of it's power envelope, so I'd have to get a higher wattage p/s. The stock cooler on a 4790K in a windowed case? Not only is it noisy at load, but if I posted that here, the villagers would be all on me with their pitchforks and rakes and Xbox controllers.... :)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

At the time I spec'd it out Newegg was running a combo deal on the RAM and cooler, and I was trying not to go over $200 for the CPU. Frickin' Intel... if it weren't for AMD, you'd have to pay $500 to get a i5-4790K

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Well... because it's a mid-tower, being able to drop one fan will definitely help with noise issues. Plus, I live in a hot climate, so any extra cooling for a non-overclocking chip that I intend to work fairly hard will be welcome. After thinking about it for a while, the only reason I might drop to a 212 EVO is to put the savings towards a R9 280 or 285. I'm at the point in my computing life where I really just want my desktops to sit there, not take up too much space, shut up and just do what I tell them without all the fan noise(I've never been a fan of full tower cases; they take up too much room for my taste. However... all that volume tends to muffle fan noise better than most mid-towers can manage). Maybe I might need to go to a mATX build instead...

Comment reply on eopest's Completed Build: Quiet AMD workhorse for Xmas

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! If the case had a window I would have tried for better color coordination, but silence was more important. I'm actually writing this reply on it right now (taking it over to the giftee in a little bit)and I can barely hear it running. It turned out well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Also, I'm trying not to spend more than $200 on the chip. Arbitrary, yes, but that's what the budget is.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

I wasn't thinking to OC the chip, I know it's locked. What I was looking at was to eliminate 1 fan and get a quieter machine since the case isn't sound-insulated, AND have the possibility of OCing a faster chip once the prices come down some.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

I wasn't thinking to OC the chip, I know it's locked. What I was looking at was to eliminate 1 fan and get a quieter machine since the case isn't sound-insulated, AND have the possibility of OCing a faster chip once the prices come down some.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

No, no... sorry, I left out in the title , "for 1080p"

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K gaming not just yet but... how about this?"

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

No, no... sorry, I left out in the title , "for 1080p". I should have made it clear that I have no intention if spending the money to go 4K (unless I win the lotto or something, then all bets are off).

Comment reply on Oblivious321's Completed Build: Medium-Entry Level Gaming PC

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I never said I overclocked my 8120, nor to OC his. I haven't OC'd mine on my G46 board for the very reason you just mentioned (the low phase count VRM [didn't find that out until after I got the board, now I know why it was on sale so long when I got it]) and I was relating my experience with my board over the last 1 1/2 years I've been running it. Basically what I said was that if he wants more CPU speed and plans to keep the G43, he'd be better off going to a faster chip than trying to OC on a board series that doesn't seem to handle more than stock clocks very well. As beepic117 said, the 8320e would also be an option (although it's Turbo Boost speed is the same as the 8320, so peak load power consumption would probably be close) to put less stress on the VRMs. If he has the money, a better solution, if he plans to OC at some point, is to replace the CPU / board combo with something a lot faster and more robust to complement the 290.

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