MoAr FrEqUenCyS -- 2.9 THz
Neat PC, great job!
Well done! Congratulations on completing this build: It looks neat! The SFF power supply looks like it's giving you more breathing room for the cables compared to mine having a full-size power supply. But nice. You got some real power into this form factor.
PS, I left a comment on the other thread but I'll repeat it here:
I used CableMod for custom-cut cables, using measurements that do not include the plug (only measuring cable length). But make sure when you measure that you include some slack so that the cables are comfortable and not pulled tight (adding an extra 10cm or so to all measures should work). They should run comfortably, not be tugging on anything and not interfering with any fans.
I used CableMod, measuring cable length excluding the plug. But make sure there's good slack on all of them: Don't measure too closely because those cables (especially ATX24) have to make some twists and turns so there's a length differential as each wire in the bundle takes a slightly different route.
My turn to not be online in a while!
I have an update on this build, but it's been taking ages to get it all together.
To give a number though, I'd have to estimate that, between the stock RVZ03 slim fans and the graphics card, there's a clearance of what must be something like up to 5-10 mm. Very rough, I couldn't get in to measure that, but that's what it looks like.
Interesting. In this build, I chose Asus for features, mainly, and I didn't consider what sizing constraints there might have been.
As to case fans, there's a string in the comments here I'm having with Ledseplein. I've actually done tests on temperatures involving case fans and open-air style GPU coolers. This case, thoughtfully, has included enough room for full-size cards to fit alongside low profile case fans and I've found significant improvements on thermals. I've only used the stock fans, however, so I'd imagine Noctua's PWM fans would perform better. If you can get around their crazy colour scheme, that is!
Correction to my notes here: case fans supplied with the RVZ03 are DC, fixed rpm fans. They sit at 1500 rpm over PWM and about 900 rpm over DC (I dunno why, I just report what I see on my motherboard).
Well! I stand corrected! I'm still mid-way through testing, but gross results are very impressive.
So, I tested GPU temperatures using Unigine's Heaven benchmark to put a constant load on the card, waiting about 30 minutes for the system to warm up to max temperatures. Then, I took 3 readings at 5 minute intervals, taking maximum GPU temperature as reported by HWiNFO. I tested with no fan (as it is in the pictures), with one case fan and both with and without the filters.
Here are the results:
With no fan, and filters in place: 77°C (ambient 20.1°C)
With no fan, and no filters in place: 75°C (ambient 20.1°C)
With fan, and filters in place: 65°C (ambient 19.9°C)
With fan, and no filters in place: 65°C (ambient 20.1°C)
This is with a single stock case fan (as supplied with the case) set to run at a constant 70% (roughly 1500 rpm).
I have to say, I'm actually impressed. The 120mm case fan can just move so much more air over the fins than the 80mm ones on the G1. In fact, installing both and having them set at a constant 40-50% could actually decrease the noise of the system as well as increase the performance and life of the system. They can just shift so much more air than the G1 fans can, so all the fans are running at a lower speed overall.
This is with the stock case fans! I will be updating this build in the coming weeks because of this...
I wouldn't say there is "a lot" of room, but this is likely true, and certainly could be affecting cooling performance. Air flow is definitely reduced when the filters are in place on top of the vents.
Again, I haven't done the testing to actually compare between filters on, filters off, no case fans, one or two case fans. It would certainly be interesting to find out what the difference really is. I still doubt a full size fan would fit, but a low profile fan would fit, and a preference for static pressure would probably be beneficial.
You know what, I'm curious to do testing later to find out what difference fans make! XD
Between the GPU and the case, there's probably enough space to fit some low profile fans. I'd say (and this is a very rough estimate) you've got up to 20 mm or so. The provided case fans would certainly fit in that space, and I've been debating doing this. However, I wonder if the turbulence the case fans would kick up would reduce cooling effeciency overall.
Without case fans, the GPU effectively has an unobstructed intake from the outside, and that seems to be enough. The general feeling seems to be that stacking fans reduces their efficiency, but I haven't been able to test this.
I did think about trying to match up the C1's fins to the case vents in some way but the good thing is the case has vents on pretty much all sides except the front, so I don't think orientation of the cooler itself makes a noticeable difference. Also, the fan will be drawing air in from the cutout on the side panel, so putting in a thicker fan might reduce performance, since it'll push right up against the 120mm cutout, and restrict movement of air across the fan, if you get what I mean?
I'm doing a little overclocking on the i7 I'm using as well, although it has been delidded, and the C1 was the only thing rated with a high enough TDP to comfortably install with it. The C7, certainly, is too small for a more performance-oriented build. The stock slim fan seems to do just fine at the minute: It's the graphics card that seems to struggle at times.
So I don't think I'd recommend getting a thick fan to tack onto the C1, since it'll be a real squeeze and the case will block up the fan. This is unless you go the route of working out a custom side panel (which is now giving me ideas, actually...)
I did manage to get Aura to work with the case RGB without additional alterations. Case RGB plugged straight into the motherboard RGB header.
Software-wise, I had to unblock the zip file before unzipping it, and then install it as admin, and all problems we're solved. Otherwise it will stay stuck in "Rainbow Unicorns" demo mode...
Yeah, so that was my first attempt at fitting the cooler. I had to swap it around because the rigid PCIe riser provided with the case doesn't plug in with the cooler overhanging it. If you have a cable/flexible riser then you can get around this problem. Otherwise, I took the skirt off and shifted the fan over a little.
I do quite like it. I switched to it from having a dual-screen setup and reclaimed some space on my desk and on my plug sockets. LG's OnScreenControl utility is nifty and I haven't had complaints with it. Generally, the screen is very good quality, looks slick, no noticeable backlight bleed, vibrant colours: all the good stuff.
2K, 60Hz because going higher would bring me into very expensive territory and probably thwart my GPU's efforts to stay cool!
It is the LG 34UM88C.
I forget who I picked it up from (spiralling SATA cables), but it was a comment on a forum somewhere and I've been doing it ever since. At least it comes across as a kind of feature, even in windowed cases, so I don't have to crush them behind the tray (which I've always been wary of).
I kid you not, I actually shot all those with the Pixel 2 XL, which meant I was waiting for sunny days to get enough light on the components to get a decent shot (my desk lamp just wasn't cutting it).
It's an Ikea desk, which I think goes by the name of "Expedit" (though I can never get their names straight).
It's pulling the 24-pin ATX out of the motherboard that really gets me. I hate having to fiddle around with that one!
Solid system! Are you thinking of overclocking?
As to the cables, they do get irritating: I always have problems running the SATA cables and figuring out how to pretty-up the GPU's cabling... An option might be to hide them in some of the empty drive bays. I eventually re-built my system after cleaning the dust out (again) and took ages just planning cable routes XD
It takes time, but it becomes an art form...
Love the lighting effect you got there. LED strip along the top?
Thanks for the tips!
I'll be referring to this when my parts arrive :D
Good stuff: I love it!
I love it so much, in fact, that I'm thinking of doing the same thing, but reusing my Kaby Lake chips and a previous GTX1080.
So I was hoping for a bit of feedback from someone experienced with this case: Is the C1 a disturbingly tight squeeze, or is it just a snug fit; and are you using any of the 120mm case fans? Do you lose a lot of space by going for an ATX vs an SFX PSU?
And is the graphics card space really that spacious? I'm hoping to be able to reuse my Gigabyte G1; which is, a massive card...
For a first time build with hard tubing, I'd say that looks pretty sharp!
Gives me hope I might manage an open-loop setup some day.
How do you find the Rosewill CPU cooler?
Neat build, looks snazzy in that case.
The case came with their standard fans. I bought the ML120's a bit later because the case fans together with the radiator fans were making a terrible noise...
I was struggling a little by the end and it does look scraggly in the light.
I think that's a downside for this case (the Spec-Alpha) or others in this size: I found there wasn't much room to play with if you had some larger components. Losing the drive cage also took away a hidey-hole which I might have used.
Yeah, I haven't managed to find something that even mildly stresses it (save Heaven benchmark). Gives me room for a higher-resolution screen later on though, which I think will come eventually.
That might be an idea, actually. It'll show up the LEDs better! xD