Would also mention, I went up through the honeycomb grill and then sideways and down the back of the case where the cable management is to tie it off, because if you tie it off at the top of the honeycomb grill, then it's extra pressure on a small honeycomb grill. :)
That GPU looks like it's going to develop a bad lean on it, I would highly recommend a piece of quality string (doesn't stretch/break) to attach to the end of the GPU and the top of the honeycomb grill at the top of the case as I have done here - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/xqsZxr
Still working great for me, no lean and I've been using this solution for 3 years now.
Hope it helps :)
Cool PC :)
Just wanted to mention the lean on that GPU though lol.
I have the same GPU and I did the following with mine to stop such lean - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/xqsZxr
I used some string to go to the top of the cases honeycomb grill as a GPU brace. It might be harder in the NZXT because it's not all honeycomb grill on the top, but hopefully there is something up the top you can tie the string off on. :)
Fantastic, Thank you for that. Very nice looking setup you've got :)
Oh okay, I thought the G810 was Cherry MX also, I have the G610 and while I like it, the Cherry MX switches are a bit loud, which i don't like and feel is unnecessary.
Yea, I also used a 27" 1080p for a bit, but couldn't stand the pix-elation, I also didn't want to go back to 24" after 27" so I went for a 27" 1440p monitor, and it's been really good, but it does take a little to get used to and adjust for the tiny icons and especially internet browsing such as larger text sizes without enlarging and thus blurring images.
So the DPI on you're monitor is fairly close to 24" 1080p or 27" 1440p? If I were to go for a monitor like that in the future, I wouldn't want it to be another 27" 1080p thing. :)
Looks very nice and clean with the monochrome colors, probably would have been better to get the G610 with just white LED's instead of RGB, because I have found when it's RGB it never gets 'white' right which is the color I too normally want.
Just wanted to ask though, how do you find the 34" at 3440x1440 resolution? How does it compare to a 27" 1440p or a 24" 1080p? Since I have fallen for the mistake of a 27" 1080p monitor before and found the resolution looked slightly blurry due the fewer pixels.
Whoa, that is awesome!
I've seen plenty of water loops, but this has got to be one of my favorites given the mATX size and the great Fractal Design case.
If I ever do a water loop in the future, I'll follow this, only I do prefer straight tubes, and I think it looks better with less RGB (e.g. the one color or just two colors) :D
The first photo looks just awesome.
Nice, I have purchased from sites listed here before, does that still contribute to this? or do I have to go to their sites specifically through links provided here in order to contribute to this?
I don't trust a lot of charities, but this looks good.
Looks really cool.
lol, I notice you got the double sided window panel Phanteks case and put it up against a wall. Is the CPU cooler an 'Iron Man' inspired design? because it looks pretty cool I think and I've never seen one like that before.
The only thing(s) I would recommend, would be cable combs, and perhaps shorten the soft tube bend going out of the radiator and into the GPU as it just looks slightly skewed (too long) with just that bend and red or white LED's on the RAM to match the build.
I would also recommend trying a free software called 'speedfan' if your not already using it.
Looks nice :)
Haha, nice. :)
Lookin' really nice mate. I really like the high quality pics, the very nicely done cable management and the monochrome colors. Not sure what the 'S' logo inside is all about but it still looks cool though.
I would just mention, that I think you have overdone it with fans, more fans can be counterproductive, I would try removing 1 of the top Cryorig fans you don't like and simply having 1x intake and 2x exhaust like my setup - https://ibb.co/n9r4sw This setup worked the best (significantly) for temps in my build.
Mainly because the top BeQuiet! 140mm intake and the top Cryorig 140mm exhaust next to it look like they are working counterproductively for the whole build.
Hope this helps, nice build :)
Lookin' really nice. :)
I've made some changes to my build too, including a cheap and effective GPU brace, although yours looks really cool.
I'd still recommend the same case fan configuration as mine though, since the negative pressure with 1x intake and 2x exhaust really made quite a difference for my temps. I also did a small custom mod for my case for GPU waterfall cable management, but I think you've done well with your GPU brace which covers the GPU cables. :)
I also used black electrical tape to close off the honeycomb grill surrounding the top 140mm case fan to reduce dust buildup, as I found the top dust filter did not work well enough for me with just a honeycomb grill under it.
Just a few things (I own the same case)
1) I would recommend using the magnetic dust filter it comes with and using the same fan configuration as my build - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/xqsZxr
Since I tried that configuration of 2x 140mm intake and 1x 120mm exhaust and it just increased my temps since it caused heat build up as it wasn't exhausting enough hot air.
2) I would change the fan on the CPU cooler and put it on the front so that it exhausts air through the CPU cooler and out the back (also like my setup's CPU cooler)
3) It looks like you could probably scrape those orange bits off the 120mm exhaust fan if you wanted to.
After those three steps I think it will look awesome, you also probably don't need cable combs, I like how those sleeved cable look at the moment.
Also, as for the top magnetic dust filter, screw the top 140mm case fan in with 3 screws instead of 4, then you can orientate the magnetic dust filter to sit perfectly flat.
I also use a software called 'speedfan' to control my fan speeds which work perfectly with 3pin DC controlled.
Hope this helps :)
If you get onto the sag early though, it's better, otherwise the sag puts a slight bend/warp in the card, the string thing is a really cheap and good fix (especially with our Fractal cases) and even the ASUS bracket, isn't long enough to really help it much, there are longer variants of it which would be better, but they cost too.
I did it on mine with the Mini C version of that same case. Just use a piece of string to go around a secure point on the GPU and then up through the top roof holes of the case and around the back to tie off.
These images might help with what I mean -
Just curious, where did you get that wallpaper from?
As for the CPU Cooler, do you still have your stock cooler? if so, id use it. Nice budget build.
Looks very nice. I've never done any water cooling or used an AIO before, however, I think your temps could be an issue in that case, because of the front radiator, Id imagine it's intaking hot air due to the front radiator, then that hot air is being exhausted through the top radiator, thus the top radiator is trying to cool itself with hot air.
I wonder whether you could try removing the front radiator, and just use two intake case fans and simply run the loop through the top radiator, that way it can intake cool air, and exhaust it through the main radiator at the top of the case?
Looks very nice. I like the NVIDIA SLI bridge, looks better then EVGA's I think :)
Also, very nice pictures, I also like the occasional close up, but I think you might have over done it a little with that many close ups. ;)
For example, picture number 3 would make a great wallpaper if I could download it in it's original size, doesn't really reveal much of the PC though, and I don't really understand picture 7 and 8... nice cardboard boxes lol. ;)
Also, normally I would have balked a little with the idea of purple coolant, but you have done a fantastic job with it and it looks excellent. I now prefer that color over all the other coolant colors I have seen in these builds (Judging by other pics, I think you may have been aiming for red, but whatever you were aiming for, it looks excellent just the color it turned out).
Not sure about the cables, picture 4 they look like a red stripe, picture 6 they look purple, I much prefer the look of the purple ones.
No worries :)
I used to own the same case, I originally used the inbuilt 3 step voltage controller, but the fans would be running 24/7 and I couldn't specify an intake < exhaust ratio, meaning there would be more dust accumulated in the intake filters and if I had two intake fans, it would create a intake > exhaust ratio which would increase temps.
When I changed my case, I gave 'speedfan' a go, and have not looked back, works excellent with fractals case fans, I have them voltage controlled, so when temps are low they remain off, and when temps rise they rise with the temps and I can run the exhaust and intake fans on separate curves.
As for supporting the GPU, I ended up using a piece of string to tie to the end of the GPU and run through the roof holes of the case, then over the top and down the back to tie off, better to show with a pic then describe, hopefully you can zoom to see it better - http://imgur.com/a/n3LDR
(Also think I did it up slightly too tight in that picture, I fixed it though, works well)
You could easily hook it around the PCI-E cable to give it that support.
Looks nice, however, id turn the PSU upside down so the intake is at the bottom of the case (Should be very easy to do since it's fully modular) and id drop the exhaust fan down in line with the CPU cooler, as that will result in better temps.
Just wanted to ask, how much noise does your GPU make and how slow can the fan go? I had a GPU like that before, and didn't like it because the temps were very high and the fan had to spin fast making a lot of noise. It's unfortunate, because the GPU cooler is probably the only thing making any noise and holding you back from a completely silent built.
You can also hook the two fractal design case fans up to the mobo and control them via voltage control with software called 'speedfan' which works really well I think and helps a lot in regards to dust build up with the front air intake filter.
The last thing id mention, is perhaps thinking of something to support the end of the GPI (Where the PCI-E connecter is) to prevent any GPU lean.
(You could get a black cord to tie around the PCI-E connecter and then tie to the roof of the case which would work very well in supporting the end of the GPU and preventing any lean)
I personally would have still gone with the EVGA GTX 1080 ti, since the Node 202 looks pretty good with exhausting hot air (Would just be a matter of how big the cooler is, since some 1080ti's need a 3rd slot to compensate for the thicker heatsinks).
The first thing I would do though, is replace those two Noctua case fans with the Fractal Case fans that came with it, I think you will find better temps if you do that, I have tried both Noctua's Industrial 2000rpm case fans and Fractal Designs case fans and Fractals case fans were better in regards to temps.
(Fractal's case fans also voltage control very well too)
And I'm also not sure why you went with sleeved cabling for the PSU when you can't see it. :) Still looks great though. Node 202 was a good choice I think. :)
The cables don't look too bad at all, still looks fairly neat.
The CPU cooler is facing the wrong way (Looks like you will have to remount it to face it the correct way).
Not a huge fan of the case, a lot of wasted space it appears at the top with the case design. Other than that it looks nice I think, good components.
My updated build is here (Has the same cables) - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/xqsZxr
They are actually the Phantek Extensions. They are similar to the pics without any lights on them, the Camera isn't very good though so probably exaggerates it a fraction, but not much.
Phantek kit - https://files.pccasegear.com/UserFiles/PH-CB-CMBO_WT-l.jpg
Id probably see what Cablemod extensions are like, mainly because in this kit one of the PCI-e extensions is a bit of a different white to the others. Nevertheless, I have never used or seen in person Cablemods version.
I had to remove the sound dampening top and use the Magnetic dust filter Fractal provided, however, I didn't encounter any difference in noise. Fractal's case fans are very good and all the components in my build and IIIncsIII should be quiet, the side panel doesn't have sound dampening anyway.
As for the window panel, yes unfortunately it appears plastic and yes it scratches easy, so id just be very careful. :)
My BenQ is only 60hz. My brother has a 144hz monitor, and V-Sync locks it at 144hz, nevertheless, mine went away after a while anyway.
Thanks John :)
I normally much prefer Cryorig, but the Coolermaster looks very good in your build, matches it well. And there is no need for sleeved cabling, as the black you have looks great too, very good job.
The only note I would make, is that I tried that same fan configuration at first 2x intake - 1x exhaust, but it was counterproductive to my temps, as it would intake more than it would exhaust which would increase temperatures inside the case as the air flow wasn't as good. I use the magnetic dust filter that came with and moved the top intake case fan to the top of the case for 2x exhaust - 1x intake and the temps were much better.
And I would also note that you should be able to control those 3pin Fractal case fans with voltage control with speedfan software if your aren't already, which can stop the fans at low temps, and start them and ramp them up based on the CPU and GPU temps or whatever you would like to set them to.
Also you removed the ugly orange on the GPU as I did :) I think it looks so much better, I don't know why Gigabyte put that ugly orange on there, orange is very difficult to match with most builds, however black and white can match nearly any build and thus is more practical like their previous generation GPU's were.
Here is mine and how I did it is in the pics - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/xqsZxr
I am also very interested in how you changed the front blue LED to a white LED, I would very much like to do the same thing.
And finally, id also recommend chucking a hard drive in there down the track, seems a waste to put music and movies on an SSD. And if you do buy another SSD, id recommend making use of the M.2 slot and getting the Intel 600P M.2 SSD's which are roughly the same price as the Samsung 850 EVO but with 3x faster read speeds.
Thank You :)
Thank you :)
Yea, I had major coil whine issues at first. I normally always game with Vsync on, it just provides an all round better experience, but now with Vsync turned off, even with fps in the 100s there may be the smallest of noise, but absolutely nothing compared to at first.
I would check your NVIDIA Control Panel (Right click on desktop) then into 'Manage 3D Settings' id change the 'Power Management' to 'adaptive' and keep Vertical Sync on 'Use the 3D application setting' and then just make sure Vertical Sync (VSync) is enabled in your in game settings.
With the coil whine, I didn't really do anything other than have VSync enabled to stop the coil whine, and then after time, once it was worn in I guess, the coil whine went away when trying without Vsync. Although without Vsync, there is a slight stutter in some games, it's much smoother with Vsync enabled on all of my games. I also overclocked it slightly too (Not touching voltages though, voltage is still on +0), but I don't think that made any difference.
I included Pics of my Overclock.
Thanks You. :)
Ahh, I see.
I would suggest just using some black or white or monochrome Velcro strips. My PSU came with 3 Velcro strips and I have a spare GPU PCI-E cable to give an example of what I mean -
If you could find the right Velcro strips, I think that would work really well for a cheap solution. Or you could try just using zip ties.
Anyway, I also noticed that you built it for your kids, so they probably couldn't care less how it looked and probably not worth the hassle. :)
Thank you in regards to my build :)
hahaha, thank you. :)
When I first purchased the original build, I didn't know much, it wasn't until I touched the case after some Battlefield 4 and it was ridiculously hot that I decided to ask about it on some tech forums, and found that the temps on the CPU were reaching 100c under load. That's when I learned how to upgrade the CPU cooler as I would have had to be weeks without a PC if I tried to send it back to them, plus extra costs involved and whether or not they would even take it back.
These were my Temps from HWMonitor from my original purchased build - https://s23.postimg.org/mi8i8vmnf/Current_Setup_Temps_1.jpg
These were my temps after installing the Cryorig M9i CPU Cooler -
So if you want to know whether a CPU can run at those temps, it does. ;) I was running those temps for around three weeks on and off before I did something about it, and fortunately enough, I am using the same CPU to this day without any issues.
Since the CPU cooler was the hardest part, I felt comfortable with everything else, and so one upgrade led to another.
If only I knew back then what I know now, but I feel like thanking them because I wouldn't have anything close to the PC I have today otherwise.
I still have the same Hard Drive, SSD, CPU and RAM from that original build. GPU upgrade was the most expensive, but I wanted it for 1440p gaming, which the GTX 970 struggled a bit with and the GTX 980 ti at the time was too expensive.
Thanks Mark. :)
Oh I see, just a switch for aesthetic reasons, thought you might have purchased a whole new card for just that reason lol. The Strix GTX 1070 does look the best out of them all I think.
I checked out photo 19, and yes, that looks awesome. :)
Looks nice, love that CPU cooler. Just needs some cable combs I think, because at the GPU the sleeved cabling looks a little messy. And perhaps a 30cm Magnetic RGB LED strip? :)
The only thing I could think to add to that, is a bottom intake case fan at the front of the case (Will give better temps with an intake case fan but with Exhaust > Intake ratio) and some cable combs for the sleeved cabling and perhaps a 30cm Magnetic CableMod Widebeam RGB LED Strip for the top of the case. :)
Hopefully you can buy a replacement IO Shield from NZXT spare parts? I also use and installed the M9i CPU cooler and didn't really have any problems installing. The only thing with the M9i I think, is that can be a little nervous with judging how tight to tighten it.
To my surprise, I also like how you did that build, not a fan of the style of case, but you did a good job with it I think. I would recommend a new monitor though, that motherboard I think suits your case well :)
p.s. Not sure the point of the fan on the PSU cover though.
Little too much red I think for me personally, due to the case, nevertheless, still looks cool. Not sure why you would switch out a perfectly fine GTX 1070 for another GTX 1070?
Id also recommend putting the lighting strip at the top of the case rather than the bottom, as it's not going to light up much down there due to the PSU cover.
Nice job on the SSD's, I have a Fractal case so I don't have to worry about that :)
I was in the same boat as you for mATX cases, really not much on the market, however when the Fractal Design Define Mini C Window came up, it was pretty much just what I wanted, and I think is the best mATX case on the market atm, it's just missing a hole in the PSU cover for GPU waterfall configuration (Could be easily modded though) and a fully tempered glass side panel like your case.
All you would need to do is spray paint the small white removable (Can't remember what they are called) things you remove to add PCI cards, red and it would fit your build really well I think.
You can check my mATX build out with that case here if you like - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/xqsZxr
Just thought id mention, I recently changed my lighting to the new CableMod WideBeam Hybrid LED Kit RGB/W 30cm lighting, and it's much better lighting, so id definitely recommend CableMod WideBeam LED strips over the NZXT sleeved lighting.
I posted a new build with it here - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/xqsZxr
It comes with a remote, so I can turn it off and reduce brightness etc even easier than the NZXT.
Me too. It's the best mATX case on the market atm I think.
Although the Define S was the best at the time I think because the Define C series, such as this case here are only fairly new. I'm just glad someone did a good job on an mATX case (And that it was Fractal, whom I like best because of their professional design), because there really isn't much in that market, yet I think mATX is the perfect size, as this case feels and looks just as small as a mini ITX, yet it has that extra slot on the mobo for a wireless card and good airflow, and even allows the possibility of SLI.
I was thinking I could nearly do just a custom job for that, as there is a spare rubber cable holder thingo up the top right hand side I don't use and is small enough, I could just pull it out and cut a hole in the piece that is detachable.
Nevertheless, I'll probably only try something like that when I can buy that detachable piece from a spare parts place with Fractal incase I screw it up :)
I have some new images and changes to upload soon, not sure whether to continue this posted build or start a new one.
I also use speedfan for my PWM fans, the first thing I did, was enter BIOS and change their speed to it's minimum, which for ASUS is 60%.
Once that's done, follow the following youtube tutorial which sets 'Speedfan' to start upon startup using the Task Scheduler, that way you don't have to open it every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1FxaYmYGbc
NZXT Sleeved LED Cable 200cm White
The main deciding factor for these, was that they came with an off/on switch and 3 brightness level switch at the back of the PC, so I could change their brightness and turn them off without having to open the case.
The brightness level is not that great I think, as I always have them on maximum brightness, but the on/off switch is very helpful I think.
Not sure which I prefer out of this and CableMod's 30cm Magnetic LED strips, they both have their own strengths and weaknesses.
If you do go with CableMod's Magnetic LED strips, be especially careful when connecting them up, because my brothers cable caught fire and melted when he didn't align it properly and mistakenly only connected 3pins instead of the 4. :)
I hope your right, I personally wouldn't trust it though, mainly because of the lean the wooden board appears to already have in the pictures and that it appears to be a rough kind of piece.
As for the open mindedness, I thought it was well done namely the glass custom mod etc and I said in my previous comment, I am just not keen at all with the wooden board at the back that it's on. That's all. Better safe than sorry. ;)
Yea, 90 Celsius is too hot. I see why you changed if you couldn't get those 1080's under 80 Celsius.
The GTX 1070 I think is a great value for money card given their performance.
Thank you. :)
When you tried the AIO at the top, did you also have two intake case fans at the front?
My apologies, I misread your Project Magnum Opus build, why drop back to 2x 1070's when you had 2x 1080's?
After you mentioned this, I had a look at your previous one - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/hLWXsY
And I don't know how to break this to you, so ill just say it, I think I slightly prefer the previous one better lol, I love how it looks.
(Although, I would have probably put the AIO cooler at the top of the case and used another 2x Noctua case fans for intakes at the front where the AIO cooler was for the GPU's)
I think it might be the new corsair case fans that I'm not too keen on, as they give off a sort of lego toy sort of look I think. And I like the GPU waterfall cable management configuration.
With the new one, did you get 2 new GTX 1080 hybrids to replace those 2x 1080's? or just change the cooler on them?
(Not a big fan of the rainbow lighting, but you can change that at a click of a button :))
I also see you used Noctua case fans for that build, how did you find those Noctua fans? I found on ASUS motherboards, it starts them at 60% min and sometimes 100% on startup, which annoyed me a bit especially at 2000 or 3000rpm. Gigabyte doesn't do that though and I don't know about MSI.
Getting the case fans right has easily been my biggest hurdle in my build, motherboard software is really lacking in this department. I use 'speedfan'
Cool GPU white back plate on top of the back plate. I have the exact same GPU and I also have a white and black theme, and would be interested in doing something similar.
How does it attach? and is it easily detachable and reattached? Does it effect the GPU performance/temps? Where did you buy? (I'm assuming you had to get the right cut out for the Gigabyte G1 Gaming)
$40.00 USD is a bit steep I think though for aesthetics only, maybe a possible DIY job for me? :D
Thank you :)
Just added some more pics up top. :)
Here is a Picture of what I originally purchased from a PC shop when I didn't know any better - https://s22.postimg.org/8gbpgoo6p/Current_Setup_1.jpg
And here is a series of upgrades I have been through to reach what I have today -
haha, I was gonna say, because that's the most expensive motherboard I have seen so far in a build lol, and I'm not sure what the main advantages are over the other cheaper ones yet. It sure does look cool though. :)
Thought id mention anyway, you never know. Very nice PC. Is there a particular reason why you went for that motherboard over cheaper ones?
Oh okay. :)