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Comment reply on Forum Topic "3700x vs 3800x"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

aside from the 3800X being less expensive somehow, there's never gonna be a good reason to buy it unless you cannot buy (as in sold out, out of stock, discontinued) a 3700X.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best CPU for gaming and workstation."

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

the 3950X is gonna be the best of both worlds.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is 350$ a fair price for a very gently used i7-5930k"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

absolutely not. unfortunately it's from an era where 8 cores was niche and a halo product. it's a 6 core that loses in every single benchmark to a $200 cpu that consumes less than half the power. you might as well hang onto it in my opinion. the resale for it is abysmal and not worth it unless you're in a serious pinch for some fast bill money.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3800x is 35$ more than the 3700x on newegg.ca"

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

absolutely not, no consideration necessary. in a full system literally everything else beside the cpu (in this case) could see actual gains spending $35 more. bigger psu of the same quality, higher tier motherboard (or one with better vrm components/thermals or more features), better aftermarket gpu, faster ram with better timings, case fans, better case, better cpu cooler, etc. the 3800X is flat out a waste of money unless it's the same price as the 3700X or the 3700X is out of stock.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cheaper Motherboard?"

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

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Comment reply on Forum Topic "help..?"

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I think the Strix Gaming E should break that tie, but i haven't sen extensive testing on it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cheaper Motherboard?"

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

hi. the B450 Tomohawk is perfect for this build and it comes with BIOS flashback feature, so no worries about compatibility. a few other points on this build list:

  • although the pure wings 2 are fine case fans for open designs, they will do almost nothing in that restrictive front intake. kind of flushing $22 extra imo. I'd go with the P400 digital instead.

  • you can and should do better than a CX psu if it's gonna be a non office build or something reasonably requiring >450 watts

this list is about $50 cheaper and a few things like power delivery and the case airflow are improved.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler $44.99 @ Amazon
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste $6.10 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.95 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $72.99 @ Amazon
Storage Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $79.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card $399.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Eclipse P400 Digital ATX Mid Tower Case $97.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $99.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.95 @ Amazon
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link Archer T4E PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $29.99 @ Amazon
Monitor MSI Optix MAG241C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $204.99 @ Adorama
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1506.49
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-21 12:40 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is the 750d a good choice?"

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

even the Enthoo Pro is a nicer choice. bit shorter, but fits all the hardware with room to spare.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is the 750d a good choice?"

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

eh... very dated case with alot of small details overlooked by Corsair, even in revisions. I have one sitting behind me with most of a system in it since I've taken the 1080ti back and built a tiny router sized pc in the InWin chopin. it's fine I guess, though I do find it hard to recommend in 2018 with so many more user friendly cases that can do the same tings or more available. nothing about your build suggests the need for such a large tower.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Phanteks Enthoo Pro -200mm Noctua"

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

just ditch 200 mm fan. poor static pressure, high power use. a pair of 140's is better in every single way.

Comment reply on beaststeak's Completed Build: Tölva 2.0

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

very nice to here. it seems the front to back airflow and the top exhaust are much better in this updated evolv. although I'm noticing it comes with higher noise levels. the front panel being so spaced out is a trade off. but in my opinion worthwhile.

Comment reply on beaststeak's Completed Build: Tölva 2.0

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

nice aesthetic, lot of LED but still looks classy. 85c max and 77c under 3d load for an hour on the gpu isn't too bad considering the vertical mount.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Similar cases to 750d airflow edition in a more "modern" style?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

the v1tech psu shroud should work.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Similar cases to 750d airflow edition in a more "modern" style?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

hmm... the phanteks pro/luxe are basically it. even those are a bit dated now. any specific reason you want the full tower?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "In search for the perfect case"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

the $99.99 H500 variant should fit your needs perfectly.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Lian Li 011 Dynamic AIO Placement"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

no. the location is too tailor made for 120mm width. I don't think a 140mm fan, let alone radiator which will be a bit wider, will even fit flush against the side mounts.

Comment reply on Scrollwheel's Completed Build: Blue Tranquility

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

thanks. iirc from an old thread on OCN the two pumps are physically identical with a minor difference on the pcb.

Comment reply on Scrollwheel's Completed Build: Blue Tranquility

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

brilliant job. first I've seen in the Evolv X on here. which pump did you use? I wonder if my MCP35x is identical to standard DDC minus the housing. wanna get one of those R220 res.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is the Corsair - Carbide Series 275R good or not"

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

you're welcome. the airflow is so limited in this case, and in a $2600 build you shouldn't be concerned over getting a cheap case. get something that is best for the actual performance and life of the system. like something with proper ventilation.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is the Corsair - Carbide Series 275R good or not"

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

don't like it with that gpu. 1080ti can dump alot of heat into a case, and something small and mostly closed off like the 275R wouldn't be my rec. meshify c, maybe the EVGA SC version of the card and for sure a 650 w psu.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is the Corsair - Carbide Series 275R good or not"

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

kind of a super general question. I'm sure there are a bunch of use cases it could be good or bad in. in general it's nothing special in it's segment.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help URGENT"

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

the Phanteks P350x or NZXT H550 are pretty good under that price range. for a bit more oepn intake the Fractal Focus G. get this psu: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KmgzK8/seasonic-focus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fm

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Stuck between two cases."

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

the case comes with a 3-pin to pwm controlled fan hub for 6-9 fans. there are 2x 120/140mm fan mount on the case floor and yes, the psu cover is removable.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Stuck between two cases."

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

should make no difference. sometimes a full is better due to having more air volume inside the case so less heat cooped up near components.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Stuck between two cases."

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

750D airflow is larger, but has less finishing touches, lots of dead, empty space, less neat cable management and doesn't have a glass window. it's an acrylic that gets scratched easy. the Pro TG has much better cable management, better included fans, neater fit and finish, more flexible fan mounting, the case doesn't look horrible when the optical bays are populated like the 750D and actually has a glass panel. I own a Enthoo Luxe and original 750D so basically I have both cases. the Enthoo Pro TG is the better choice for your needs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Evolv x"

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

imo you can't go wrong with the R6. the Evolv X looks very promising too. it's not listed on their site or youtube channel, but they have the pages up:

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best ATX case from these options?"

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

either way, the meshify c is the best option listed here.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Evolv x"

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

supposedly in 3 days or so. I'd expect it in a month.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best ATX case from these options?"

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

what exactly do you mean by "water cooling"?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Any good black cases with ONLY 120mm fan mounts?"

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

huh? what would be the point of having ONLY 120mm fan mounts? mostly cheap cases in the $20-$40 range fit that description.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Compatibility?"

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

yes.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NZXT S340 Elite | Fan Layout"

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

no, he said in the video a 140mm fan won;t fit there on top of bottom. hence the use of a 120mm fan.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "MOBO for Ryzen 2600x - Considering MSI x470 gaming plus or gaming pro but I cannot see ANY Difference? Are these good boards or are there any other recommendations in the 100-150 range? Thanks!!!!"

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

the Asrock X470 Master SLI/AC seems to be the best user reviewed X470 motherboard out. $149.99. of course it isn't perfect. lacks dual BIOS, no debug LED on board and has ALC 892 audio chipset. but it tends to work and seems to have excellent ram compatibility. it's only available on newegg though.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Front and side panel glass case"

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

something like the Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic?

Comment reply on gkmoney's Completed Build: Arctix 1.0

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

some friendly advice from a guy who can spot somebody new to DIY. do more learning and less advising. each part of this post is demonstrably incorrect there is no possible way you could have much experience in this realm and hold such misinformed beliefs.

and for any other new people reading, X470 chipset is identical to X370, yes it's just renamed. the difference on the motherboards is that they trade one pci-e x4 slot for an second on board M.2 slot. also, X370/X470 are only superior in that they offer SLI support and more expensive boards in the $200+ range have top tier power delivery hardware. that's it. B350 and the upcoming B450 are perfect for 98% of users and the board used in this build is perfectly adequate for the 2600X. there are no chipset limits on overclocking with B350, not the cpu or the memory,

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help me coose a case"

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

now, typically having a case that has good airflow, tempered glass and is particularly good at noise isolation are conflicting attributes. quiet cases sacrifice cooling, open airflow panels sacrifice noise isolation. ultimately the components in the build will determine the noise level.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which case is best?"

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

looks good. I have a few suggestions.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Does this case work well with my build I am currently working on? List below!"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

you're welcome again. yes, the i5 8400 would be the best cpu choice inside your budget and is well worth it over a quad core. it'll last 2 years easily and it won't bog down faster gpus if you upgrade.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Does this case work well with my build I am currently working on? List below!"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

you're welcome.

Someone also suggested the I3 8350k but I feel like that's a little more expensive and I would then need to pay more for a mobo that has OC if I am correct?

yes, this is a terrible suggestion, especially with the i5 8400 out now.

If I am going strictly saving money. Would you recommend the Ryzen 3 2200G or I3 8100?

the Ryzen 3 2200G of course. the i3 8100 is 26% more expensive and 6% faster overall at stock. the 2200G has this feature that the i3 8100 doesn't called an unlocked multiplier. 200-300 mhz bump and the 6% becomes 0% or up to -3%. there are always going to be specific games that play much better on Intel or AMD cpus, but the bulk run the same on both.

I do like the i5-8400, but that extra 40 bucks and plus a fan I would then have to consider dropping the SSD Card.

an additional cooler is not necessary. sure, the Intel box cooler is horrendous and loud, but it sufficiently cools both the 8100 and the 8400, and it's not like they can overclock. if reduced noise is what you're going for, it's probably a luxury on a budget. if your max is $800, split the difference a go to $775. but I'd order the GTX 1060 while it's $250, prices change every day.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Does this case work well with my build I am currently working on? List below!"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

the case is actually pretty good for airflow. personally, I'd ditch the i3/cooler. this is the way to optimize that $750 budget. buying the i3 8100 AND a cooler for it just makes no sense. $40 less than the 8100+M9i you get a Ryzen 3 2200G with a good box cooler, same cpu performance and a decent backup gpu (but this suggestion may bring the usual brand wars controversy with it) and for $40 more you get the vastly better overall cpu that will bottleneck less and last longer, the i5 8400. the i3 is already in a tough spot value wise, add in a cooler which does nothing but make the system a bit quieter and it's just becomes moot for a build in a strict budget. the i3 8100 is a fine cpu in a vacuum, but it doesn't exist in a vacuum, you have options.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor $178.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - B360M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $69.99 @ Amazon
Memory Patriot - Signature Line 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $78.99 @ Amazon
Storage Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $24.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.90 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card $249.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case $39.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ Amazon
Wireless Network Adapter TRENDnet - TEW-805UB USB 3.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $22.49 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $749.32
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-22 08:37 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NZXT H500i or S340 Elite? Airflow and Space"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

so with front intake fans a 2.8C drop in load cpu temp, but the trade off being a 6-7c increase in gpu temp. however you slice it, that is a bigger impact to performance. whether it's AMD or especially nvidia, gpu boost clocks are based on temp and current-in. adding front fans would actually decrease gpu performance, while doing nothing for the cpu.

thermal throttling on cpu depends on it being at the TJ Max or the motherboard vrm being too hot, 2.8c mean nothing for a cpu but a different temp reading. this front intake is not looking any better in practical use, and at stock config cpu temps in the comparative torture load are among the worst on the chart. front intake is poor, pulling air from expansion slots that aren't filtered means free pulling dust into the case. none of this is making the case sound more appealing. either take warmer cpu temps and unfiltered dust build up at stock, or put front fans that help cpu temps and offset the free flowing dust intake, but heavily impact gpu temps, which impacts the boost clocks, thus performance.

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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Push+Pull rad in Phanteks P350X"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

your welcome. found the review. this video review shows him putting the ID Cooling frost flow 280 in at 4:06 and that cooler has a radiator 311mm long. he says 31cm (310mm) is the limit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbIp5LePg4U

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NZXT H500i or S340 Elite? Airflow and Space"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

adding front fans in this new case makes poor even worse though. so the intake area is straightforward inferior. the trade off is the smart hub.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Push+Pull rad in Phanteks P350X"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

yes. the sizes for radiators go by standard fan sizing, not the actual size of the radiator. typical 280 rads are anywhere from 308mm to 323mm long. I saw a review of this case where the reviewer mentioned a height limitation of 311 or 312mm due to the top I/O pcb and cable. this specific corsair cooler you listed has a 315mm long rad. so that would be an issue.

the corsair H115i (non pro) has a radiator 312mm long. corsair has all that info on their website. i'll try and track down some P350x reviews to make sure.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Push+Pull rad in Phanteks P350X"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

it should be, lots of space in the front. careful which rad you use, it has to be 311 mm tall or less.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NZXT H500i or S340 Elite? Airflow and Space"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

okay, I didn't see the bottom intake on the H500. the side intake area is not great itself as it's mostly solid with those small, round holes. a full cutout the same size on both sides of the case would let several times more intake through. according to GN review the front intake is not very good (putting it mildly) as adding front intake fans increases temps quite a bit. https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3309-nzxt-h500-case-review-thermals-noise-vs-s340

This is where the the stock fan configuration starts to make sense. NZXT chose negative pressure because this allows the GPU to draw air in through empty expansion slots, rather than relying on intake from the mostly-sealed front of the case. When front intake fans are added, even ones pointing towards the GPU, this airflow pattern is disrupted and the GPU can no longer pull cool air in from behind the case

this case is a cost down refresh similar to Phanteks' P300 vs their P400. aside from potential fitment of certain components which I haven't seen verified yet, it's not necessarily better than the S340 models, it's a replacement that is cheaper for NZXT to produce and falls in line with the aesthetic of their new line.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Phanteks Evolv X - 2018 Case"

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

yes, more often than not Phanteks misses their release date by weeks, if not months.

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