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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Motherboard dead. First time builder trying to salvage parts."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

$1000 is great for these upgrades

Couple of Qs:

  1. Which of the following parts do you currently have?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
Storage Western Digital - Black 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $157.87 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $113.29 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $74.99 @ Newegg Marketplace
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $81.69 @ OutletPC
Video Card Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card $299.99 @ Amazon
(https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) $127.98 @ Trusted Tech Team
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-12 18:59 EDT-0400
  1. Are you planning on overclocking?

  2. Whats your display resolution and refresh rate (eg. 1080p 60hz)

  3. If buying Windows news, would you prefer the retail version which is fully transferable. Only a few dollars more.

p.s. honestly anything above 16GB would remain unused and a wasted overhead. 2 sticks equating to 16GB DDR4 on dual controller motherboards is already a very nice upgrade with plenty of years to come under the belt.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gaming build"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

looks great!!

If you plan on overclocking, I would consider a motherboard with better regulated power draws and cooler VRM/MOSFETS.

The same brand and make RAM modules which are rated CL15 (basically lower latencies = faster timings) are only $2 more.

More importantly take the GTX 1080, comes in cheaper and adds more cuda cores and lower latency VRAM. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/49YWGX/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-duke-oc-video-card-gtx-1080-duke-8g-oc

You might as well consider a 1440p 144hz display for sharper image quality, larger screen and better immersive gameplay. The GTX 1080 should easily land you around 80-110fps on the average in demanding games on ultra settings.

I would consider a case with better airflow as these 1000-series cards generate heat like its the 4th of July

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New PC Parts Suggestions"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Entirely depends on your purpose of use?

Judging by your RAM, storage and PSU, its more than gaming right? The more the specific the better

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrading pc."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

This looks great!!

Just the chip and mobo swap out will do nicely!!

If you plan on overclocking (CPU/RAM/GPU), get a better CPU cooler and at least 650W on the PSU. Seasonic is a great unit with excellent power efficiency margins and protection features hence no harm trying some OC too with your current 550W.

If you need help choosing a motherboard, let me know - otherwise its all good :)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrading pc."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

The Hyper 212 is compatible and will work great too providing you run the chip at stock speeds. A mild overclock is possible too. If you do plan on overclocking and want to push the chip further - a better cooler is needed.

I also think I want to get into recording gameplay so that is another factor

If you're not tight on the budget, the i7-8700K would be your best bet!

I have ddr4 ram

DDR4 can be a little shakey on Z270 boards and known to add excess loads on the CPU too. Z370 boards and DDR4 is a marriage material so these sticks will work great on the Z370 chipset.

It would help if you can build a list of all your current parts to see if any other improvements are possible (if the budget permits). Also, what is your budget?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrading pc."

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

More likely the CPU is on the weaker side of the balance when paired with a GTX 1070 + plus background processes adding to the load spike.

8086K is overpriced and lacks any real tangible benefits over the i7-8700K. If it's just gaming, the i5-8600K will offer the same gaming performance for $100 cheaper.

Are you gaming on 2 displays? Or is the second one for productivity/work purposes only?

I know I will need a new motherboard and cpu fan.

Why the CPU fan? What do you have?

You'll need to pick up some RAM too as current Gen boards are DDR4-based.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Motherboard dead. First time builder trying to salvage parts."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

If the motherboards gone, there is a chance for the CPU/RAM taking a hit too (I hope not though). Depends on the circumstances which lead to the motherboards termination. For example, undervolting/overvolting power draws across the board can knock out both the memory modules and the processor. On the other hand, if the motherboard decided to longer boot without hitting -/+ current/voltage barrages, the chip and memory would have maintained their working capacity hence salvageable. The only way to find out is testing these parts on a compatible board/build. Alternatively, you could drop your parts off to a local tech store and see if they can help.

OEM GPU / OEM RAM = these are transferable to any compatible board and will work the same as third-party modules

Where are you with your budget in a worst case scenario? Ideally, a newer gen board, an 8th gen processor and DDR4 RAM would be the better investment. Depending on which GPU you are currently carrying, the RX580 in your list looks nice too. For the replaced parts, if working, you could sell them to make the above possible.

If you don't mind me asking why 32GB RAM? For gaming and light background processes 8GB is sufficient. 16GB holding the recommended flag and future-proofer but 32GB implies heavy memory utilised workstation type usage (i.e. Hi-Res video editing or AE rendering, bulk image file manipulations, etc)

It would also help if you can mark currently owned parts as $0 or "purchased" and if the above 8th GEN upgrade path is of interest confirm your max budget?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I'm going to be building a PC soon and I' pretty sure of my list but just want some opinions."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

lmao thanks for actually responding to my post

You'd be surprised with PCPPs community they always get on-board at some point - usually instantly! :)

I don't want to spend an extra hundy on another 24" monitor, 21.5" is even a little big to me, but I am going to get a stand so they're level

What I meant was replacing the 21" HP panel with something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m7DzK8/benq-gw2470ml-238-1920x1080-60hz-monitor-gw2470ml. Then again it's not necessary as you've already secured your primary gaming panel.

The R7 1700 vs. R5 2600X was a spooky one for me, with half of the people on this website telling me to go R7 and the other half saying R5.

I know - it sucks! Future-proofing with a lower core frequency count in chase of multi-cores to me never did make sense when 6 cores is more than sufficient. The 8 core recommendation stands tall for some real-workstation type rendering hence shouldn't always be applied to gamers/streamers. Problem is some reviewers online who stream professionally using high-preset rendering professional softwares with embedded AE file manipulations on higher resolutions are often mistook for gaming streamers hence the 8-core fanaticism is pushed-on and others assume it would be the better future-proofer without accounting for loss in single core speeds which games are optimised to make use of.

I want to paint my PC yellow, so the only reason I went for the RUF was the color scheme(is it worth it to get a strix mobo with a black color scheme and wifi?)

Absolutely fine! The TUF variant from ASUS is a great board. It might limit overclocking but only a tiny margin, nothing to be concerned about. Even if you purposefully OC'd at 50% of the CPUs max potential, its perfectly fine as your GPU and CPU choice at stock is already a super powerful combination for superior gaming performance. You don't even need to OC for gaming but it will have it's benefits for streaming.

If you fancy wifi integration consider this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nQc48d/asrock-x470-master-sliac-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-master-sliac Dont worry about the 4/5 star rating for this board, its a fantastic mobo and gets full 5 stars from me. I've built using this board twice and the intel chipset variant (Z370) possibly 6 times - not a single problem each time!

I hate that headset and have been looking for a different one. Do you know of a headset with no mic and good sound quality? I can't find any on this website.

Uh oh, i've hit a dead-wall on that one. Unfortunately i'm not so personally familiar with headphones as I tend to stick with desktop speakers. I could recommend a few which are known goodies through user/client feedback but as always im comfortable sharing personal experiences. Best thing for you, pop into the forum page and under the hardware sub-category select "Audio". Pop in your queries there for best feedback from experienced men and women of the Audio-underworld lol

Comment reply on Forum Topic "gaming / vr build (console peasant moving to pc master race)"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

For gaming and streaming, the following will work just as good. In your initial build some part prices were missing hence I'm assuming the total was hanging around the $6000 mark. The below build which also includes a display sits around $5000

Changes applied:

THERMAL COMPOUND: Removed. The paste which comes with the Corsair AIO is just as good!!

MOTHERBOARD: The Z370E (which also includes AC integrated wifi) is totally fit for the task and will easily push the chip around 5.0-5.1Ghz. The Maximus X might help in pushing the chip about 0.1-0.3Ghz further if you're an experienced overclocker but honestly $400 dollars more that tiny almost unnoticeable speed boost for gaming and streaming is pointless. I'd save the money for future upgrades which will deliver exponential improvements in performance.

RAM: You don't need 32GB of RAM for gaming and streaming unless you are using professional streaming software running high-preset applications, after-effects, producing high-resolution content, etc. If it's just basic streams with gaming 16GB is more than enough and will last for some time to come. Also 3000Mhz 15CL is the same speed as 3200Mhz 16CL, plus a little cheaper.

STORAGE: You don't need NVME PCIE X4 M.2 SSDs (970 Evo). For gaming, streaming and general productivity those added speeds have very little effect or next to none. These are more targeted towards workstation type builds where the workflow consists of large read/write sequential speeds. For the gamer/streamer, the only tangible benefits you'll notice are probably a 1 sec faster boot time in Windows or 2 secs faster in games compared to the standard SATA SSDs. Not worth the investment if you ask me. You're better off taking a 1TB MX500 from Crucial (same performance and build quality as the Samsung 860 but priced better). The larger the capacity the more the improved performance. Basically more NAND chips, lower latencies hence faster operations. 1TBs tend to have a longer life-cycle too and maintain efficiency and performance for longer compared to their smaller capacity counterparts. Since gaming performance is unaffected whether its on HD or SSD or NVME SSD, you could even opt for a 250GB SSD for the OS and applications and save all games on the HDD. The only benefit you have with the SATA SSD is the slightly faster load times compared to HDs hence you may prefer the 1TB solution.

CASE: Its a personal choice hence this one I will to you. Although I would opt for something cheaper like the S340 Elite or Fractal Design Meshify C as these are fantastic affordable alternatives (well than again i'm tight on cash)

PSU: Platinum power units are more aimed at workstations which run heavy CPU/GPU rendering loads throughout the day and offer zero performance or benefits for a gaming/streaming or even a high end casual workstation rig. Basically you get around 2% better power efficiency margins which are pointless for your build purposes. A gold rated unit is just as good and the added Seasonic is currently one of the best available. 650W is also perfect for your setup, for future upgrades and plenty of power efficiency margins in the tank.

OS: Swapped to Retail version which is fully transferable (basically a license you get to keep). Plus it comes on a USB pen. I would also try to shop for the OS locally or online for trusted sellers as cheaper offers appear on and off all the time.

DISPLAY: For 1080p 60hz the GTX 1080 TI is a HUGEEEEEE overkill. It's like a buying a ferrari when road speed limits are set to 10mph. To get the best out of your gaming card, consider the added 1440p 144hz display. Basically a 27" screen of magic, with sharper image quality and great clarity of visual detailing. 144hz equates to 144fps which basically draws more frames from the GPU to the display for a more smoother gaming experience. 1440p is basically the half-way point between 1080p and 4K resolutions hence it produces best of both worlds (image quality + fps performance). If you want G-SYNC too, options are available for maybe $100-$200 more.

The above would simply complete a top-notch performing rig in 2018!

Let me know if you have any questions.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor $556.40 @ Playtech
CPU Cooler Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $248.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Motherboard Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $364.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $358.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Storage Crucial - MX500 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $343.85 @ PB Technologies
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $104.50 @ 1stWave Technologies
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card $1399.95 @ Computer Lounge
Case Corsair - Obsidian 500D RGB SE ATX Mid Tower Case $448.99 @ PB Technologies
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $199.95 @ Computer Lounge
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $175.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Case Fan Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.2 CFM 120mm Fans $176.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Monitor AOC - AG271QX 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor $686.00 @ Mighty Ape
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $5060.64
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-13 04:15 NZST+1200

Comment reply on Forum Topic "gpu died"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

For that particular game, with either of the above 2 cards, you can easily play in ultra settings without a problem.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "gaming / vr build (console peasant moving to pc master race)"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

First thing first the blower TITAN XP has got to go!! The linked card costing far less matches the XPs performance, adds more performance (superclocked), runs far cooler, much quieter and on top offers additional headroom for overclocking without sounding like a jet engine going off. https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/KBtWGX/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-ftw-gaming-icx-video-card-11g-p4-6696-kr

A few items on that list are sparking some questions so it's better if you help with the following:

  1. Max Budget (you seem alright in this department)

  2. Purpose of use. The more specific the better. With 32GB RAM i'm assuming it's more than just gaming?

  3. Intended display choice, resolution/refresh rate (eg 1080p 60hz)

  4. Since SLI on the 1000 series cards is abandoned (vendor on-going support), are there any work-specific requirements which are optimised to make use of dual-GPU cuda cores/VRAM modelling? Likewise, may help to determine the 1000W PSUs fate.

  5. Since gaming performance does not benefit from either m.2 nvme SSD or standard SATA SSDs, is your selection of storage work-specific?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "gaming / vr build (console peasant moving to pc master race)"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

looool giving me the dizzies too

Oddly enough, in all my PCPP endeavours I've never come across a build listed in NZ currency hence seeing that dollar sign baffled me. Well it's always a first!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New AMD build"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Whats the build for?

Just some quickies for the time being:

  • Assuming overclocking is on the horizon, you're better off paying $25 more for the 280mm Kraken X62. By comparison the 240mm X52 does seem like a small difference but the radiator on the X62 is around 25-30% bigger considering the W/L ratio. Plus the 280mm rad houses larger 140mm fans for quieter fan operations. The 120mm on the X52 can get a little noisier. As a side note, there are much cheaper air cooler offering the same performance - should that be of interest

  • Dual memory kits on dual controller motherboards run much better, faster and map much more effectively. Ryzen chips tend to run more optimally with those added benefits. Also if you plan on overclocking your sticks, you'll find better stability taking 2 sticks.

  • I would take an aftermarket superclocked GTX 1080 over the Vega 64 card for a very nice performance boost if gaming FPS is of top priority

Theres a few more recommendations for added performance and better value (i.e. storage, PSU, case, etc) but first let us know the following:

  1. Max budget

  2. Purpose of use

  3. If gaming, the intended display refresh rate and resolution (eg, 1080 60hz)

(just a side note, the RGB120 fans will require NZXT's HUE+ controller)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "need help upgrading my old prebuilt"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly it boils down to your budget.

If a new build was on the horizon how much will you be willing to fork out?

Your Athlon II CPU is old, weak and not fit for a GPU upgrade. Most likely you're already bottlenecking the R7 260X. A new build seems to be your best option. The only part which seems feasible to carry across would be the HD, possibly the PSU (I wouldn't bet on it) and if it's a transferable license Windows 8 too - although Windows 10 would be preferred as Windows 8 is toast (well not entirely although Microsoft abandoned further support for Win 7/8)

Max budget?

Display resolution and refresh rate? (eg 1080p 60hz)

Gaming only? If yes, are you open to intel too or is it AMD for life hehe?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Monitor Upgrade for a New Build"

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

If you have your heart set on 4K and you're open to the upgrade path, the GTX 1180 is rumored to hit around 70-80fps (ultra/demanding). It becomes a viable option.

Personally im more for FPS for the added smoothness in gaming (competitive play too). I had my first hit a few years back touching on around 100fps, i haven't looked back since.

Don't let me cease your 4K endeavours though - the image quality is breath taking hence also a great option!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I'm going to be building a PC soon and I' pretty sure of my list but just want some opinions."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

You don't need a liquid AIO as cheaper air coolers are at par with performance. If you prefer the AIO for the aesthetics - its all good!

8 cores are not necessary for gaming and streaming although may prove the better future proofer. Contrary to future proofing with more cores, the R7 1700's downside is the slower single and quad core speeds. As games largely perform better with faster cores you might want to consider taking the R5 2600X with 6 cores. Another downside with the 1700 whilst streaming is having the single cores capped with further loss of performance on single/quad core speeds when hyperthreading kicks in. Loss of performance is evident with the previous Zen architectural algorithms which wont have it any other way. The newer Zen+ supported chips with the X470/B450 boards somewhat irons out that problem by maintaining gaming performance whilst streaming with HT in place. The 2600X also benches better with AMDs precision boost and XFR technologies and top offer additional headroom for improved overclocking. Considering you're going with an AIO cooler, the 2600X will quite significantly benefit from the coolers TDP with improved OC max potentials opposed to the 1700.

The great thing about AMDs current chipset is it's upgrade path which is open for the next generation of chips. So within a year or 2, if you demand more cores it really is as simple as selling the old (great re-sale value) and purchasing the new faster chips without having to swap to the motherboard or anything else for that matter.

A couple of other changes:

  • Better motherboard for overclocking, cooler VRM/MOSFETS and more efficient power draws keeping the board cooler.

  • Better and faster M.2 SSD

  • Upgrade to a GTX 1080 (same price as the GTX 1070 TI)

  • Better build quality, refined power protection features and a quieter power supply unit

  • An ergonomically friendly display with stronger legs for stable support

OTHER:

You might prefer a 24" second monitor for a unified setup. Not important, but im a perfectionist :P

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor $225.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Corsair - H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $99.99 @ Corsair
Motherboard Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard $153.34 @ Walmart
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $160.98 @ Newegg Business
Storage Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $99.99 @ Adorama
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $57.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card $429.99 @ Newegg Business
Case NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ Amazon
Monitor AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor $197.04 @ Amazon
Monitor HP - 22cwa 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor $89.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Gigabyte - FORCE K83 Wired Standard Keyboard $39.99 @ Amazon
Headphones Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset $38.23 @ Amazon
Other SteelSeries XXL Gaming Mouse Pad (67500) $29.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1783.19
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-11 22:51 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "About to purchase parts for first PC build"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

xPat's recommendation on fan/GPU is spot on. For the GPU and display, it's like buying a Ferrari for roads with speed limits of 20mph.

Also you want a dual memory kit for dual controller motherboards for improved performance.

Whats the build for?

Max budget?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Monitor Upgrade for a New Build"

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

Either:

1080p 144hz

or

1440p 75hz/144hz

If you're a competitive gamer, 1080p will offer best FPS performance with the GTX 1080 easily hitting 144fps in demanding games (ultra settings).

If you prefer a slightly larger screen with much sharper image quality, a 27" 1440p panel would also work very nicely with the GTX 1080. Playing heavy titles in ultra settings may average around 80-110fps depending on game. Not a big deal, anything above 60fps is fantastic and the added benefit of having a higher res, sharper image and better detailing makes up for lost fps. 1440p 75hz is great but if you can pick up a 144hz panel it would be so much better. Less demanding games will easily run 144fps whereas the top-notch weighty titles can be nicely tweaked to a mix of high/ultra settings to hit those higher notes.

I would not recommend 4k though. Even the 1080 TI struggles to hit 60FPS in demanding games at that resolution. Plus, newer titles will demand more and as a result the upgrade path may arrive earlier than expected for the GTX 1080.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overkill Ryzen build with enough power to move Earth, any suggestions/opinions?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

4K on ultra settings (top demanding titles) most likely will sit around 45-65fps. Whereas 2K (1440p) is much better positioned to utilise the displays max refresh rates at 144 whereas for a widescreen around the 80-110fps mark which is way better than 4K.

Here's what i'm dreaming about, a gorgeous 34" WIDESCREEN 1440P 120Hz, IPS PANEL with GSYNC https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fBvbt6/acer-predator-x34-340-3840x1440-120hz-monitor-x34-pbmiphzx (lovely bubbly jubbly). If you don't like the red accents, this one is just as good: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c9qbt6/dell-aw3418dw-341-3440x1440-120hz-monitor-aw3418dw

DUAL MONITOR gaming sucks as the display bezels sit in the centre of the game focal point. So you're better off with a single widescreen one. For the second display, assuming its for productivity, you only need a 60hz one and a match 1440p res. For video editing timelines, working on widescreen panels are super convenient hence your primary display will suffice.

If the above is relevant to your selection process, if you want we can work on your entire build for best performance for value as some overkills seem evident,

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overkill Ryzen build with enough power to move Earth, any suggestions/opinions?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

Crikes! I just read your other reply to Edition1. So you're serious about this build? It's a waste of money if you ask me. It's like buying a ferrari with road speed limits @ 30mph.

For example, if its gaming, x2 4K 144hz displays is already a huge demand for a GPU upgrade out of the box as those cards can't simply deliver on those ridiculously overpriced displays with pixel counts shooting holes through the roof. SLI support on the 1000-series cards is another huge no-no as it's no where to be found and most games won't benefit from dual-empowered cuda cores. We're already at the verge of witnessing the next Gen of cards from Nvidia and even a single 4K display will have those locked down below 144fps in top setting heavy titles.

The slow and sweet upgrade path will always deliver far better performance and value for money unless you have real tangible benefits to derive from current extremes. The other issue with long term investments in the tech industry is, we can't account for excess volume/capacity alone but the very quick nature of architectural and generational enhancements with lower latencies, improved fabrication nodes, mapping frequencies, etc etc. The 12 month cycle newer Gens will always outperform the previous offerings and sometimes the advances are so great, yesterday becomes ancient (well for the enthusiasts anyway)

So whats the build for? The more specific the better

Planning on gaming on 2 displays or is one for productivity only

EDIT: For a gamer, a single GTX 1080 TI with a 1440p 144hz screen will offer best of both worlds (sharp image quality and plenty of juice in the tin for higher FPS potential). Alternatively a 1440p widescreen display for more immersive gameplay and then later swap out the card for the 2019 superclocked GTX 1180 aftermarket additions (thats where i'll be next year if the exasperating Wife permits)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "gpu died"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Whens the funeral?

hehe sorry couldn't resist

i5-4440 - those haswell chips were great runners back in the day with superior single core clock speeds and run great here in 2018 too (not so much for demanding titles but workable). The GTX 1060 is certainly compatible but some bottleneck is likely - it's not a huge deal breaker though as the card will perform superbly on 1080p 60hz+ displays.

Alternatively, RX580 (8GB VRAM) comes in a little cheaper and offers the same/similar fps performance (better in some games) + more VRAM for better quality texture/splatter/composite feeds but again a small bottleneck may apply although a fraction less compared to the Nvidia card hence making it a worthier investment. Plus, if your display supports freesync, the RX580 hands-down becomes the better option. What the GTX 1060 offers on top, are third party vendor aftermarket s-s-superclocked cards which can/do perform a little better (not always depending on game optimisation) for an added cost but with your 4440 chip and potential bottleneck that added performance is pointless.

Both options are great if you are also planning on upgrading the CPU, RAM and Mobo down the line.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overkill Ryzen build with enough power to move Earth, any suggestions/opinions?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

To move mother earth you don't need x2 1080 TI's, you need 2 of these fire-ballers: https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/533000/620x/NASA-comet-warning-575274.jpg and atleast a 250GB SSD

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Noob seeking advice on upgrade"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

That PSU is old, unrated and of low-tier PCB build quality. Basically poor mechanisms, unreliable power flex, poor power efficiency and unpredictable. In 2018's quench for evolving DC/AC power currents, certifiable build quality and power protection proficiency, you could definitely do with something new - preferably a 80+ ranked bronze/gold PSU.

Your current motherboard is a uATX (or Micro ATX) in a standard ATX case. You can either stick with the smaller Micro ATX form factor or opt for a standard size for £10/20 more. Performance wise, both will offer the same for your purpose of use.

The i5-8400 below comes with a CPU cooler. The cooler does the job very nicely keeping you within the safe temp zones for what it's designed for. Although you always have the option of adding a better cooler later for improved cooling and quieter operations (fan RPM speeds/dBa noise levels). You could easily pick up something decent around the £20 mark like the current popular 'Cryorig M9i' or the 'Be Quiet Pure Rock Slim'. Both work great!

OPTIONAL: If you can push that budget a little higher, I would take a more current case too to complete the package. Benefits: better airflow, the optional but sexy side window visual leap into the mechanical wonders in action, better cabling/routing management, PSU shroud to keep things nice and tidy, etc.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor £149.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard £70.98 @ CCL Computers
Memory Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory £68.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £51.59 @ Aria PC
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply £67.99 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £409.54
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-11 03:24 BST+0100

Comment reply on Forum Topic "opinion needed on first ever (hypothetical) build for gaming"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

$1500 is sufficient for an excellent performing gaming card for 1080p and higher FPS performance (144fps). Incl. a 144hz display. The more the fps the smoother the gaming performance, the tougher the card the better it will handle current demanding games on ultra settings with plenty of headroom to support future titles.

Total comes to $1400, leaving $100 for the added peripherals (keyboard/mouse)

I've added an RGB case and dropped the RGB 3-fan chassis and fans from the list. You can always swap out the fans later for the RGB element. If you still prefer your original case choice - no problem! Personal choice also adds value :) Worst case scenario the temps might be a "little" higher but certainly nothing in the ranks of 'major concern' hence it's up to you. I have to admit I have seen the case in person, it does look nice at an arms length.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor $199.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler $19.99 @ Newegg Marketplace
Motherboard ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $88.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $67.72 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $57.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $429.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.90 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $103.95 @ Trusted Tech Team
Monitor AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor $197.04 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1405.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-10 10:17 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "G4560 upgrade?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

For gaming only stick with intel

The i5-8400 comes with a cooler but you might be interested in something better and quieter, for example: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LPVBD3/cryorig-cpu-cooler-m9i

Dual RAM kits work better on dual controller motherboards for added efficiency, improved performance, etc

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor $178.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - B360M D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $76.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $335.97
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-09 19:39 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Noob seeking advice on upgrade"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

GPU = GTX 1060 is great for 1080p gaming

CPU = yep, upgrade time! Take the i5-8400, the 8500 offers zero performance improvement

MOBO = yep, upgrade time! Either a B360/H370

PSU = If its old, consider getting something new. If not too old, which one do you have? Current PSUs are always a good investment considering better protection features, better power efficiency and more importantly added assurance for long term reliability.

RAM = You need DDR4 RAM for the newer GEN boards (B360/H370/Z370), preferably 8GB minimum.

HD = keep the 1TB

SSD = 250GB is more than enough for the OS and applications.

CASE = Check whether your current case will support the aforementioned motherboard (ATX).

Whats your max budget?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "opinion needed on first ever (hypothetical) build for gaming"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

What are you planning for in terms of display resolution and refresh rates? I'm sure we can squeeze in a GTX 1070 TI with a $1400 budget. If the displays capped at 60hz, the GTX 1060 would do just fine.

Maybe consider going intel? Better gaming performance!

Dual memory kits run better on dual controller motherboards. For example, 2x4 (8GB). Or was the single stick added for a later addition of a second stick?

SSDs are now a current norm for best storage units, accounting for superior speeds. Usually 250GB is recommended for the OS and application alone with a second HD for storing games/media/files/etc. Once you go SSD theres no turning back - its just that good!

I'm not so big on that case choice. With current day gaming cards generating more heat than we can bare, you want something with better airflow. The air intake on the masterpro is choked and those fans are of poor quality and can get a little noisy. Maybe drop the RGB element altogether and push your printed paper towards best performance.

Whats your max budget?

Display resolution/refresh rate? (eg, 1080p 60hz)

Planning on overclocking?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "opinion needed on first ever (hypothetical) build for gaming"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Gaming only? or streaming too?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best PC Gaming On 4K USD Budget"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

With a budget of $4000, the 3 specials:

CPU: The i7-8700K doesnt offer much over the i5-8600K for gaming but with streamlined optimisation of games adopting the multi-core threaded pattern, the near future may draw in some sizeable benefits. Already DX12 is multi-core acclimating.

GPU: Currently top rated series of GPUS are the 1080 TI's. Keeping you around the $3000 mark for the total list allows you to keep $1000 tucked away as the newer generation of cards from Nvidia are almost upon us (hopefully in the coming months). Although, I wouldn't rush for the founder edition cards just yet, wait some more for the aftermarket releases with better cooling and higher clock frequencies and then upgrade.

DISPLAY: This ones a tricky one! Either take the standard aspect ratio 1440p displays which sit at 27" or go with an ultra wide at 35". The ultra wide will take gaming to a whole new level with immersive gameplay and more of cinematic experience. The downside is, the higher the resolution the less likely it is to hit those top FPS notes. If I had your budget I'd go 'ultra wide' @ 100fps max. Alternatively, if you prefer a smaller screen, take a 27" 2560x1440 res panel which will offer best of both worlds - superb sharp image quality + higher performance (144fps).

Other things to consider:

STORAGE: Although a 250GB SSD is more than sufficient for the OS and applications, for the second drive a standard HD is very practical considering gaming performance sees no benefit from SSDs. Alternatively, you could opt for a 1TB SSD as your second drive for storing game or other media. Although it won't help gaming performance, there is the benefit of faster game load times.

COOLER: The Kraken X62 has it's cheaper counterparts offering the same performance. Since you have the dollars, the RGB effect on the Kraken pump simply adds value if that tickles your fancy. Anyway, besides the RGB element its superb for overclocking!!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor $347.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $147.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $155.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $157.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $67.72 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $57.99 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card $729.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case $96.78 @ Walmart
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.90 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $103.95 @ Trusted Tech Team
Monitor Acer - Predator Z35P 35.0" 3440x1440 100Hz Monitor $848.43 @ Newegg Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2803.52
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-08 23:02 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which is better?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

This one:

What about the display? or what have you got? Resolution/refresh rates?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor $347.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $147.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $155.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $159.99 @ Amazon
Storage Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $89.95 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $57.99 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card $729.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case $96.78 @ Walmart
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.90 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $103.95 @ Trusted Tech Team
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1979.43
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-08 17:22 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "FIRST TIME PC Build, want some opinions"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

With a current Gen i7 + GTX 1080 paired up with a 1080p display + demanding games on ultra settings = PURE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE for several years ahead!!

If you haven't secured one already, a 1080p 144hz display would do nicely. Your rig is capable of hitting way above 144fps at that resolution. If display upgrade is in the pipeworks, you could also consider a 1440p 75/144hz panel as the GTX 1080 is very capable. 1440p (or 2k) offers sharper image quality, a bigger screen for immersive gameplay and generally makes workflows more convenient with the added screen real estate (productivity/multi-tasking/wider view of vid-edt timelines, etc).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need motherboard advice for 2700x"

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

VRM is more of a concern when it comes to overclocking. At stock speeds its not of huge concern but small performance drops can be expected using XFR/Precision boost controls via poorly managed VRMs or the thermal limitations applied by the stock cooler.

For a non-overclocker, with the 2700X at hand, I would aim for the X470 board with better thermal management (VRM/MOSFET) which in return will allow XFR2 IIRC to capitalise on best boost clock speeds. XFR 2.0 basically improves multi-thread performance whereas Precision Boost 2.0 which equally relies on better cooled VRMs improves the clock speeds whether the CPU is running quad-core loads or multi-core. For best performance, take a mid-tier X470 and consider (maybe later) swapping the stock cooler for something better. The coolers TDP plays a significant role as to how well XFR/PB operates as the 2nd Gen AMD chips use complex algorithms in measure of temps and power to determine the chips auto-configured max clock speeds.

Another advantage you have with the X470 is the upgrade path for the next series of AMD chips which will be compatible with this board hence it's worth spending a little more for best overall cooling and more refined power draw/delivery. The B450 will be equally compatible but most likely will be less stimulating for the CPU to draw optimal performance with the up and coming faster chips. Which will most likely result to power/VRM bottlenecks which is already apparent with the 2nd Gen X-series chips

Mid-tier best value for performance:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6hF48d/asus-prime-x470-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x470-pro

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZLF48d/asrock-fatal1ty-x470-gaming-k4-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-k4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zytQzy/gigabyte-x470-aorus-gaming-5-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-aorus-gaming-5-wifi

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Any last minute adjustments I should make?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Adjustments don't seem necessary as you've already taken some top-notch parts to upgrade that rig

Whether you might be able to save some cash and maintain performance, or opt for alternative options for added performance, depends on the purpose of use. Whats the build for?

If it's a gaming rig, you could do with some added storage - maybe HD?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Almost finished with build, aiming for 144hz"

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

If you plan on playing demanding games on ultra settings, you should be able to hit around 60fps on an ultra-wide 1080p screen. For the above mentioned games, around 60-90fps

If you want to maintain higher FPS, you're better off taking 1920x1080 144hz.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First Build - Need help with the motherboard"

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

You don't need Z-series. B360 is cheaper than the Z370 boards.

You mentioned EUROS, where are you based?

The i5-8500 is pointless, adds zero performance in games.

You might want to consider taking an SSD. It gives the system a very tangible boost in performance with much faster OS and applications load times and sequential read/write speeds. Dead silent too!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First ever pc build advice needed. Used for gaming mainly."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

If you do consider going the 1080 TI path and plan on overclocking too, I would consider going with a different case. Something offering better airflow.

Maybe the previous version S340 Elite or the H400/700 from NZXT. Alternatively the airflow daddy Meshify C from Fractal Design.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First ever pc build advice needed. Used for gaming mainly."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

£1624 + 500 puts you in the 1440p sharper image quality arena paired with a GTX 1080 TI.

If the above interests you, thE following would work better: (incl. display)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor £218.79 @ Kustom PCs
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £124.79 @ Aria PC
Motherboard ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard £144.63 @ Ebuyer
Memory Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £160.68 @ CCL Computers
Storage Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £82.39 @ More Computers
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £51.59 @ Aria PC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card £699.46 @ Amazon UK
Case NZXT - H500i (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case £99.99 @ Box Limited
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £89.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Fan NZXT - Aer RGB120 61.4 CFM 120mm Fan £22.80 @ Aria PC
Case Fan NZXT - Aer RGB120 61.4 CFM 120mm Fan £22.80 @ Aria PC
Monitor Acer - Predator XB271HUA 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor £428.68 @ More Computers
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £2146.59
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-06 21:16 BST+0100

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help/improvement on ram and storage"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Depends on your storage and workload requirements. Whats the build for?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Criticue my 1050€ partlist"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

For the price point, displayport addition and linear exterior around the panel, this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZBZ2FT/aoc-monitor-g2460pf

Besides the above, XL2411P is also a great quality display hence either of these 2 options per your personal preference.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Do I need a NIC or a USB adapter?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 3 points

Problem with USB adapters is, assuming you want AC wifi which offers better bandwidth, stronger signals and uninterrupted simultaneous connections, you will need to fork out around $30-$50 for a decent well build USB adapter with affixed antennas. For this reason alone, I would opt for an integrated AC WIFI motherboard. I've added one in the list. Basically the boards got you covered for both WIFI and Ethernet connections.

Also looking at your spec, I made a few other changes with the following in mind:

  • Motherboard which is wifi integrated and external antenna included which screws onto the wifi ports on the back of the motherboards I/O. Gigabyte is great for overclocking too with better VRM/mosfet cooling and the board generally runs a little cooler compared to ASROCK and ASUS mid-tier offerings.

  • SSD: Samsung 850 is the older model which is overpriced. 860 is the current one which is cheaper. I've added $10 cheaper MX500 from crucial which is at par with Samsung in terms of speed, general performance and reliability. The MX500 also comes in the 2.5" form factor and since your motherboard takes the newer M.2 standard, i've added one of these.

  • GPU: For the same price, upgraded to the GTX 1080. As you're going for a 1440p display, the GTX 1080 would be a better fit with added cuda cores and faster (lower timed latencies) VRAM which come very handy on high-res displays for faster rendering of textures, shaders, etc etc.

  • CASE: The old Enthoo Pro ATX was great back in the day - i had one! Today for the same price there are other better options available with far superior airflow, better cable management + routing, full size tampered glass, full size PSU shroud, etc etc. The Fractal Design Meshify C and the S340 Elite are the current top-dogs in that price bracket.

  • PSU: Added Seasonic! Better build quality, better power protection features, better power efficiency rating, top-rated PCB assembly and runs quieter than the EVGA G2. I never did like the name "seasonic" but I cannot deny they produce the best PSUs and thanks to the April price drops they're priced better compared to their release initiatives.

  • DISPLAY: Switched to a 144hz monitor. The GTX 1080 is more than capable of hitting above 75fps in games hence with a top-dog GPU you want that added flexibility with the monitor refresh rates for a more smoother gaming experience.

It's only $50 more than your original spec with all the above upgrades + the inclusion of AC WIFI.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor $249.00 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $34.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $179.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $159.99 @ Amazon
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $67.72 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $42.69 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card $474.98 @ Newegg Business
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case $88.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $81.99 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor AOC - AG271QX 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor $396.99 @ Walmart
Keyboard Cooler Master - MasterKeys Pro S Wired Standard Keyboard $128.98 @ Walmart
Mouse Razer - DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse $55.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1962.20
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-05 12:03 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Do I need a NIC or a USB adapter?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 3 points

ethernet port is already integrated with the motherboard hence for hard-wire internet connection you're covered

If you need WIFI too, either consider a wifi integrated motherboard or purchase a wifi adapter (USB/PCI-E)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Omen 870-244 + SSD Upgrade Good Deal?"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Its a decent deal but you can do better with a current GEN 6-core CPU, a better performing GPU (1070 TI), faster RAM and SSD included. Other assurances, better airflow case, a reliable Power supply unit (not sure what the initial link includes), etc

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor $195.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler $19.99 @ Newegg Marketplace
Motherboard ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $88.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $154.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $429.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case $88.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1157.50
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-05 00:47 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time build"

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

For your $1200 budget, the intel i5-8400 for gaming is better and adds faster cores which games benefit from.

GPU upgraded to GTX 1070 TI - for demanding games at ultra settings and maintaining high FPS (on 1080p displays)

250GB SSD is more than sufficient for OS and applications

1TB for games, media, files, etc. Gaming performance does not benefit with SSDs, hence the cheaper secondary HDD is a nice investment for added capacity.

Case changed to something more current, superb airflow, excellent cable management, full size PSU shroud, etc etc.

For the non-overclocking CPU, the M9i CPU cooler works really well. Although the stock cooler is fine but looks ugly and gets a little noisy.

With the case I have chosen I haven't figured out if I will need additional case fans

The case comes with 2 fans. Ideally one intake and one exhaust fan is all you need. For pushing more volumes of air, you can buy 2 additional fans. Something like this (140mm fans which are quieter and push more volumes of air): https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4GsKHx/be-quiet-case-fan-bl047 or this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wgL7YJ/fractal-design-case-fan-fdfandyngp14bk

Still undecided about a monitor

If you want to maintain high FPS in demanding games (ultra settings) take a 1080p 144hz display. Something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZBZ2FT/aoc-monitor-g2460pf If you fancy the same with GSYNC included, consider: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4cbkcf/acer-monitor-xb241h

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor $195.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler $19.99 @ Newegg Marketplace
Motherboard ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $115.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $154.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $429.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case $88.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1183.52
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-04 18:19 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First Build - Gaming at 1440p and Video Editing"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

When are you planning on purchasing the parts?

If you prefer staying away from HDD's, for maintaining performance and adding more storage for only $25 take the following:

  • 250GB primary SSD for OS and application

  • 1TB secondary SSD for active workloads, games, archives, files, media, etc

Considering games and RAW video images take up a lot of space, 1TB would last longer. Plus, larger SSDs run more effectively (faster) with added NAND chips and lower latencies.

What about a case?

650W power unit will more than sufficient.

Depending on your video editing requirements, if you are using after effects or any RAW-VD file manipulation tools which are memory-hungry with large file applications you might want to add around $30-$40 dollars more for some lower latency modules (14CL/15CL - 3000/3200Mhz). The difference is much more noticeable in active workload rendering opposed to post-rendering.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Would love any changes or better price to performance."

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

For gaming only, intels i5 is much better by comparison. Far superior single core speeds hence added performance (fps) in games. Unless your work requirements require AMDs added cores or you plan on streaming, Ryzen would be a plausible alternative.

Also if you plan on overclocking, for $15 more, you get a far more superior CPU cooler: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8GBrxr/scythe-mugen-5-rev-b-512-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5100

Intel option:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor $249.00 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $34.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 3 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $132.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $154.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $58.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card $479.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT - S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $95.00 @ B&H
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $81.99 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor Acer - XB241H bmipr 24.0" 1920x1080 180Hz Monitor $301.88 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair - K95 RGB PLATINUM Wired Gaming Keyboard $169.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Corsair - M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse $49.00 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1873.60
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-04 10:55 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Trading/Gaming PC"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

If you're not planning on overclocking, the 2600 will do fine, although its overclockable too.

X-series chips just offers better headroom for overclocking (plus a higher vendor induced boost frequency), a small increase in stock core performance, uses a little more power and comes with a better cooler (AMD Spire).

What i would recommend is going with a faster SSD for $10 more: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ft8j4D/crucial-mx500-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd1 (basically outperforms the SU650 by a clear mile)

The masterBox Pro 5 could be replaced with a better air-intake capable case. But thats down to your preference

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1700 or 2600x"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Like the above poster said, it's down to your purpose of use which determines the best chip for your needs

If it's just gaming, i5 from intel will deliver best performance, although if you prefer AMD for the subsequent upgrade path, the 2600X will deliver very nicely too.

some one told me get the 1700~ back to confusion

That depends...besides gaming, what else are you planning to do on your machine?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1rst time builder"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor $249.00 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler EVGA - CLC 280 113.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $108.75 @ Newegg Marketplace
Motherboard ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $169.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $67.72 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $57.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 DT GAMING Video Card $709.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $81.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan Corsair - LL120 RGB LED 43.2 CFM 120mm Fan $25.03 @ Newegg Business
Case Fan Corsair - LL120 RGB LED 43.2 CFM 120mm Fan $25.03 @ Newegg Business
Monitor Dell - S2716DG 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor $459.00 @ Amazon
Keyboard Razer - BlackWidow X Chroma Mercury Edition Wired Gaming Keyboard $149.99 @ Amazon
Headphones Razer - Kraken 7.1 V2 Mercury Edition 7.1 Channel Headset $99.99
Other Xbox Custom Controller $85.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2510.32
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-03 00:02 EDT-0400

Comment reply on H3rr3gud's Completed Build: Enthoo Elite - 5 radiators - 3 liters of fluid.

  • 16 months ago
  • 2 points

sorry mate, 5 rads and 17 fans.....the cooling could have been better. The missing push/pull cooling recommendation: https://ci.memecdn.com/6126501.jpg

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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help with revisions"

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

This reminds me of my build in 2017 with yours being a version up!! (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7C3YLJ)

I wouldn't change a thing. Ideally you could save here and there but considering your colour theme and preferences, I wouldn't have it any other way

Although I will say, the i5-8600K will deliver the same in performance as the i7-8700K. The only advantage the i7 offers is faster rendering with it's multi-core hyper-threading, something games won't benefit from.

Also, for $7 more, you could get the 750W power unit from seasonic. Definitely not needed but personally i fancy an overkill on PSUs. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64cMnQ/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750fx

EDIT: I forgot to add...VERY NICE BUILD!!

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