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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is More VRM better? (3700x, 2080 Super )"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

For the 3700X, even a 4x2 arrangement runs fine on older B450/X470s, with decent VRM cooling.

Stick with the MSI MPG x570 GAMING EDGE WIFI - the 8+2+1 power phase design is simply "More then adequate" and is capable of running the 3900/3950X, if that's an upgrade path sought in the long run.

Overclocking has diminishing returns with the 3000-series CPUs hence scaling up to 8+2 is already a sweet overkill. Should overclocking be attempted for full-core optimised applications (there are some benefits depending on application) the Gaming Edge has you covered very nicely!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinion on build for first gaming PC for child"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah, my bad! I should have checked. A spanking would be in order

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First Time Build"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Your spec is not showing.

Go to your parts list and copy and paste the "link" provided directly above the parts list.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Motherboard/General build advice"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

The wraith prism stock cooler is more than adequate for the task at hand. A decent $30/$40 aftermarket cooler may offer a little added performance and quieter operations but besides preference nothing else worthy of note. I tend to stick with stock coolers for builds which aren't expected to OC, and if the noise levels are not to my liking i simply swap them out.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help on what to upgrade"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes fully compatible!

Yes you can pick up 2x4GB and simply slot them onto the mobo. Make sure your purchase the same make and model as your current sticks.

SSD on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B319VG2/?tag=pcpapi-20

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Motherboard/General build advice"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

How is AMD's stability these days?

Surprisingly better! Gen to Gen, the AM4 sockets feed just matures like sweet wine with every GEN up. Both the supporting CPU and code, as well as memory optimisations, have been running very smoothly for the last 2 GENS....now with 3rd GEN, it can only get irrelevantly better.

Are you targeting 64 GB RAM? Or were 2 lots of modules placed there for referencing?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinion on build for first gaming PC for child"

  • 5 months ago
  • 0 points

For around $800 you can do better, assuming performance is key!!

  • Discrete graphics card, RX 570. GTA5 for instance will struggle with an APU, pushing on lower settings and yet delivering only just passable performance.

  • Faster single threaded Ryzen 2600, with 6 cores and 12 threads showcasing vastly superior multi-threaded performance.

  • Double the SSD capacity @ 500GB.

  • A higher refresh rate display @ 144hz

  • Mechanical tenkeyless keyboard with RGB illumination. For a 10 year old (or adults), the smaller sized keyboard adds comfort without having to pull the arms wider apart whilst gaming.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $133.00 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.99 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $66.89 @ Amazon
Storage HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $54.98 @ OutletPC
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card $134.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case $49.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Newegg
Monitor Dell S2419HGF 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $159.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Redragon K561 VISNU Wired Gaming Keyboard $39.99 @ Amazon
Speakers Logitech Z200 0 nW 2.0 Channel Speakers $22.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $807.79
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-25 08:47 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Motherboard/General build advice"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

am I hindering the core i9 by getting a less expensive motherboard?

Nope, the higher end mobos from this range are more inclined to extreme overclocking or additional feature sets which are more user-specific. If you are planning on overclocking the current selection is already considered a higher end solution and is more than capable of handling 240W of power with a promising thermal solution to keep things in check (VRMs/Mosfets). OCing would further encourage a more beefier aftermarket cooler solution as the Hyper 212 is pretty basic and decent for stock performance.

If overclocking is not sought, I would honestly look to AMD's 3900X (12 cores and 24 threads) seeing there are benefits for more superior rendering performance @ 4K video edit. With GEN 3 Ryzen, AMDs single threaded performance is almost at par with the i9 and smashes intel out of the park in multi-core/multi-threaded workloads.

Also ditch the 1660 TI, the RTX 2060 is going for around $300-$325 for a more long-term gaming solution. If you're expecting to play games @ 4K, consider the RTX 2070 SUPER @ $500

I would also ditch the Pro-edition samsung SSD unless there are specific workloads which can benefit from these superior sequential read/write speeds. From your initial post, it appears the only benefit will be faster transfer speeds with large video files within the drive. Is that something you absolutely require? A more affordable alternative with 1TB (double the capacity) fast nvme SSD will deliver very similar real-time performance and also very nifty transfer speeds. Eg. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxKcCJ/crucial-p1-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct1000p1ssd8. For your secondary storage solution, although it's an overkill, you can double up on the same and save a little.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help on what to upgrade"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

These are clock speeds, to simplify this is how fast each core runs. The 2700X boosts up to 4.1/4.2 Ghz hence by comparison, it's right up there with some of the top stuff. Clockspeeds determine how fast the system responds to instructions and for games it determines your FPS performance. Core counts on the other hand determines how effectively the CPU handles your workloads and how quickly in heavier processing environments. For example, if you took a 5Ghz fast CPU with only 4 cores, you will see faster responsiveness in basic tasks but for the heavier workloads (gaming/recordings/streaming) the CPUs single threaded clockspeeds will fall short of its glory as 4 cores forms a weaker backbone to handle those tasks more effectively. Likewise, a 2Ghz CPU with 20 cores also breaks the balance, with slower responsiveness and too many cores which most likely will remain unused. This is where you should look for a "middle point", a balance between Clockspeeds and core counts which best represents your specific workloads.

There are better options available with the likes of the Ryzen 3700X or Intel I9-9900K but too costly to fit in your budget. What the 2700X delivers is "vastly" superior performance over your current G4560 2-core processor. Even though the G4560 has a baseclock of 3.5Ghz, the numbers alone do not determine the actual speed without accounting for the generational architectural designs. A "current" GEN 3.5Ghz would be vastly superior to an older GEN 3.5Ghz clockspeed. In other words, the Ryzen 2700X's baseclock speeds @ 3.5Ghz is superior than the older generation G4560's 3.5Ghz. We're looking at pretty sizeable numbers here, almost 50-60% faster on quad-core workloads (games), 25% faster on single threaded performance (basic application speedier responsiveness) and when it comes to multi-threaded performance the numbers shoot through the roof by 300-350% (gaming/recording/streaming - simultaneously).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Noctua: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dwR48d/noctua-case-fan-nfa14pwm (not the prettiest but the best in the business) or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap

Is there a good thread on overclocking?

TBH, Ryzen CPUs work better in terms of overall performance via the automated XFR/PB overclocking profile. Manual overclocking demands too much voltage override for any significant gains which does beg for a more beefier cooling solution for around $70-$90. The performance gains are not so great either, and certainly don't justify the added spend. I'd save the money and look for a faster upgrade path within 1/2 years. Don't get me wrong, the 2700X is a "FANTASTIC" CPU and more than sufficient for your workloads.

Then again, learning to overclock or the enthusiasm to consult CPU bearings for added performance adds value of its own - hence if you're still interested in some manual tuning, go for it! Your current cooler is capable of achieving a moderate overclock via the 2700X. Rather than providing loosely informed overclocking guides I would suggest you join up with MSI's forum community and drop in a post for "how to overclock the 2700X on my motherboard model " Community members with same/similar boards are always friendly enough to offer a helping hand.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help on what to upgrade"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

yeah so your saying that i have to upgrade my MOBO to get a 6 core or 8 core?

Yes

i have the 1TB Harddirve. --Is adding 8GB more and adding SSD and another harddrive best for more longterm?

If you already have a 1TB hard drive but no SSD. All you need is a SSD for your primary boot drive (where you install your OS, ...and applications). SSDs help the OS and applications to load and run way faster compared to traditional hard drives. We're looking at 250-400% performance boosts with load times.

I lagg and have slow *** load times on guild wars on lowest settings.

Yep, the culprit here is the CPU. Games demand a minimum of 4 cores and today modern day gaming titles with improved code are capable of making use of 6 or more cores for some added performance, greater system stability whilst gaming + depending on core count, more versatility for other simultaneous CPU intensive workloads (encoding/rendering/etc). More counts and faster single threaded performance will allow you to engage more demanding games at higher in-game presets (even ultra settings in most lesser demanding games without dipping below 60fps)

Limit for CPU is 300(if can find cheaper one then ill take that .prefer 6core ) total. foreverything i say no more than 350.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $194.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450M BAZOOKA V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $50.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX900 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $33.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $349.95
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-24 15:20 EDT-0400

2 x 4GB RAM is trending a little more expensive compared to 2x8GB and with your current modules the same make/model/spec are costing $51

If you take 2x8GB, thats 16GB in total, it's only $65 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb This is also a better combination in utilising 2 dimms only with 2 kept spare for future upgrades. In other words, buy 2x8GB for $65, and sell your current 2 sticks and you end up making a little profit. Th

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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes this is good enough if it's a build you already have at hand.

If purchasing new, you can do much better for less with a 6/8 core previous GEN Ryzen CPU, faster RAM + SSD for the boot drive. Realistically 4 core CPUs are sufficient for 720p/1080p 60fps basic quality streams. Being Ryzen 1600 is available for around $100 and offers substantially superior encoding compute performance, there is no doubt this would be the better buy for your workload. A paired up B450 motherboard would also open doors to plenty of uplift in performance in the long run, should you wish to upgrade the CPU somewhere down the line.

I take the graphics card holds purpose for editing/rendering workloads?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

For the task at hand (your specified workload) and performance as a whole, nothing else needed! Any additional upgrades/additions here are purely down to user preference/requirement.

Very nice budget fans, 140mm/PWM: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hhbp99/arctic-cooling-case-fan-afaco140p0gba01

All the above, but quieter fan options: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj8H99/be-quiet-pure-wings-2-140-612-cfm-140mm-fan-bl040

There are more premium options available with the likes of Noctua....but not necessary unless you're planning on overclocking and fancy faster RPM speeds at lower noise levels.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Everything looks good! Thats quite a lot of RAM, are you using more than 16GB at any one given time?

The 2 case fans which are included with the case are more than adequate for decent airflow (providing one is used on the rear for exhaust and one on the front for intake). As a preference, to maximise airflow, you can pick up 2 additional fans (either 120/140mm each).

Comment reply on Atas1994's Completed Build: Setup Final Edition.

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

nice build, liking the set-up too!

Comment reply on Atas1994's Completed Build: Setup Final Edition.

  • 6 months ago
  • 3 points

Why did that comment make me feel i'm living in the dark ages? I have landline too! In fact, 3 cordless ones and 1 hardwired.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you link me up with your updated parts list?

Also, a rough budget sketch of how much you're willing to fork out on top for some meaningful performance advantages (if needed)?

Ah, one last thing - build purpose of use? lol I could have scrolled back a few pages and checked...... but ......it's a hot summer day and laziness has snatched the indulgences of youth out of me.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help on what to upgrade"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

I use the pc mainly for games n recording

  • For this type of workload, your base minimum target for a CPU should be either a 6 core 12 threaded chip or the more versatile 8 core 16 threaded solution. Neither of these options are available for your current B250 board hence it would be a good time to swap out the motherboard and pair it up with core-savvy AMD Ryzen CPU. This is also achievable within the $300 budget (Something like a Ryzen 1700/2700 with a B450 motherboard)

Will more memory n external storage help with running these games? ....Btw i dont have an SSD storage does that make a diff?

  • 8GB RAM is technically sufficient for gaming. With recordings/streaming in the mix, for greater system stability you want to add another 8GB!

  • You already have a 240GB SSD, which is great for the operating system and applications (or as your boot drive). It would be a good idea to pick up a second storage device to install your games on. This secondary solution can be a cheaper 1TB hard drive for $30/$40. Whether you save the games to the Hard Drive or SSD, it doesn't affect gaming performance.

Do i have to upgrade my gpu too? Or can i keep it with a new cpu?

  • Not really! If you're gaming at 1080p, the RX570 should easily play high/ultra settings whilst maintaining 60fps (or a mix of medium-2-ultra settings in the more demanding titles). Yes, keep the GPU with the CPU upgrade - you've got yourself a decent gamer there with quite a bit of mileage to go before it runs out of juice.

You mentioned $300 for the CPU upgrade. Is there a broader budget limit for other upgrades/additions or is $300 your absolute max? If there is budget headroom to play with, I can try piecing together an updated parts list with all recommendations included for a more clearer picture.


Alternatively, if you want to keep the same platform you're currently on, I wouldn't pay more than $150 for a non-K series i7-7700 CPU. This may be achievable from the "used" market. Keep in mind the 7700 is a 4 core CPU which is a good fit for gaming, but you can expect some level of performance undermining with recordings/streaming in the mix.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Driver Issue? Ryzen9 + Asus Tuf Gaming x-570.... Device Manager shows FOUR items with exclamation mark"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Windows fully updated? After the initial install you'll want to download all remaining windows patches to get things up-to-scratch!

It is also likely some of the additional functionality available on the newer 500 series boards saw later update-paths to incorporate a fully functional system. This is achieved by downloading the latest chipset driver for your board (from the board manufacturers website) or if that doesn't do the job, possibly updating BIOS.

Alternatively, if everything is working to your specification (all parts and peripherals added simply doing the job as intended), you could potentially overlook some of the inconsistencies for the time being as AMD will continue to drive through newer updates with their recently unleashed 500-series platform.

Comment reply on vman411gamer's Completed Build: AMD 50th Anniversary Build (3900X / 5700 XT Anniversary Edition)

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

From an aesthetics point of view, the love & hate relationship with the 011 case always goes in the positive when you get it to look this good, with a fine selection of complimenting parts and a single luxury colour scheme.

+1

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First Build For Gaming"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Only consider the intel CPU option if you're planning on overclocking. The small mark up in performance for overclocking + a beefed up cooling solution doesn't necessary justify the spend. Especially, with AMD offering a superb value alternative with pretty much the same performance.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $198.90 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ B&H
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $89.99 @ Adorama
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $529.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $94.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $96.00 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1259.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 10:17 EDT-0400

OTHER IMPROVEMENTS:

  • You can't go without an SSD, swapped the HD out. SSDs are far more superior

  • Doubled up on RAM @ 16GB

  • Upgraded to the "Super" variant of the 2070 graphics card for 10-15% more performance

  • Swapped the case for something a little more premium

  • A newer, more power efficient Power Supply unit with improved protection features and more current capacitors.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My freshly built PC won't fire up"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks like a bad PSU / Mobo.

The corsair RMX is a pretty decent quality driven unit hence I wouldn't be surprised if the motherboard is the culprit. Unless you have a power supply/voltage tester you won't be able to crack the concealed culprit. Best option, try borrowing one or pop the build into a local tech shop and have them fire it up. If a second working PSU fails on the same board, you'll have your answer "motherboard failure".

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My freshly built PC won't fire up"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Had a quick look - a benched troubleshoot guide: https://forums.tomshardware.com/faq/bench-it-troubleshooting.1442412/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My freshly built PC won't fire up"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Maybe double check your front panel connectors on the mobo - check if the case power button connector is placed on the correct 2 pins. You'll need to refer to your mobo manual for the correct arrangement.

Is the red flashing led labelled on the mobo? Have you checked your mobo manual for corresponding details?

Have you tried remounting your CPU? Checked for bent pins or any other type of hindrance (dust/debris).

Make sure the CPU cooler is plugged into the CPU_FAN1 header on the mobo


If all fails, its possibly a bad mobo/PSU. Prior to passing judgement, I'd look to bench the board on a non-conductive surface first and give it a another shot. Bench as in, drop the case and place the motherboard on a wooden desk or other non-conductive surface (cardboard/paper/etc) and wire it up again. Power up and see if that works.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My freshly built PC won't fire up"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Unplug the PSU. After 5-10 seconds pull out the CMOS battery. After 10 secs, put it back in. Plug the PSU back in and hit the power button. See if that works

If not, you might want to look into remounting the CPU and cooler again (if you havent done so already). In the process check for any bent pins or any other hindrance.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Can not find compatible PSU with Motherboard"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

You don't need to use both CPU power connections. The single 8-pin connector is a 12v 240W monster and will handle any compatible CPU on that 500-series platform. That's sufficient power for overclocking too.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Air Flow Question"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Ideally, for non-obstructive air exhaust conditions, it's best to remove the dust filter. If you left it on, it doesn't really make much difference (won't melt either :) )

Essentially, for an overclocker, these considerations are more enthusiastically employed to scrape off every bit of thermal improvement possible. At stock conditions, it just doesn't matter, it's more of a preference whether to keep the filter on or not. Some of the examples in relation to increased static fan pressure, increased noise levels, limiting air penetration, etc are mostly exaggerated and the best way to challenge your particular setup is testing out both scenarios (with/without the filter).

Honestly don't look too much into the finer details as the difference in performance is almost non-existent.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Air Flow Question"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Do most people have their AIO fans exhaust as opposed to intake air?

Depends where you mount the AIO:

  • If the AIO is mounted on the front, the popular choice is "intake", as you want cooler air from outside to shift through the radiator fins for best cooling performance.

  • If the AIO is mounted on top, since heat travels upwards, it makes sense having hot air exhausted out rather than pushed back into the case. In your situation, this works very nicely as you already have 3 intake fans on the front which will pull in plenty of cool air to engage the AIO exhaust function. Another benefit opting for a top exhaust arrangement is GPU heat dissipation. GPUs generate plenty of heat and you want greater consistency with heat exiting straight up and out, opposed to the top fans pushing air back down.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Air Flow Question"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

too much intake and not enough exhaust. Bottom line your temps will be fine and the current fan orientation will simply get the job done, if that's the preference.

But....if you're looking to maximise best airflow within your means, you'll want a more balanced arrangement which neither employs too much intake, nor too much exhaust, but somewhere in the middle. A good and safe configuration would consist of x3 fans as intake, x3 fans as exhaust. In other words, keep the front 3 as intake, and the remainder 3 (aio/rear) as exhaust.

Once you have the safest configuration installed, if you prefer "positive pressure"/"negative pressure" you can always adjust the fan profiles/RPM speeds to your liking. I prefer a soft touch of positive pressure just to keep dust from gathering at a minimal. Although in some instances, pushing a little towards negative pressure has seen some tiny positive returns on GPU thermals (about 1c, or if you're lucky 2c - for me these numbers are negligible as dust is the greater enemy)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i5-8600k RAM speed compatibility"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

The chips 2666Mhz rating is the chips default/officially approved clockspeed. Not a limiting factor.

RAM modules which exceed the supported default rating are considered "overclocked" speeds and are perfectly safe to apply. It's just a matter of enabling the XMP profile in BIOS which configures the modules rated speeds, timings and voltage requirements.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Core Clock waaaay too high"

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Refer to the motherboard manual for clearing the applied configurations back to default settings.

The mobo manual may have this listed under either "BIOS RESET" or "CLEAR CMOS" or "JUMPER SETUP"

remember to shut down the PC and "unplug your PSU first". Wait around 5-10 secs before shorting the pins.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Games crash all the time no BSOD"

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Have you tried a fresh install of Windows? Fresh as in installing windows from a media device, on a fully formatted (wiped out) boot drive. If yes, the issue seems to be hardware related. If not, you'll want to give it a shot to iron our software-related possibilities.

Also how are your thermals measuring up whilst gaming? Both for the CPU and GPU?

In a similar circumstance with a client build, some years back, I frustratingly ended up disassembling the entire build, incl the removal of the motherboard from the case. Literally, every screw, every connect, and for no reason whatsoever even removed the case fans. I cleaned out all the connecting ports with air duster sprays (if that even remotely amounts to something). With BIOS set on default and another fresh installation of Windows the reassembly just worked out of the blue! I suspect an unverifiable grounding issue OR a possible bad connect somewhere.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Norton, BitDefender and Kaspersky are the ones i'm familiar with (all paid subscriptions). I've had a crack at a couple of others on client systems which look to deliver just as equally.

TBH, i've been using Norton non-stop for the last 8yrs+, not because it's the best but it's part and parcel with our shared business Norton licenses. Hence i'm not in a position to offer a more constructive comparison between the market leaders.

If you're wandering about free options, there are a few decent ones, although i've not used any of them. A good place to inquire with the community - PCPP forum: https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/forum/24-anti-virus-anti-malware-security/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

excellent, just remember 3840x1080 is the displays native resolution hence even if you left it at 100% it would be hitting it's intended purpose. Scaling up past 100% does offer sharper image quality but places more workload on the GPU which in return results to lesser FPS in games.

If you prefer increasing the scale factor for general use, you can always toggle back and fourth, with 100% for gaming, 125% for general desktop/productivity use. Or play around with the scaling configuration to see how well you fare with your game performance targets to see which is universally best.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

If display settings are not showing the 3840 X 1080 resolutions, you want to check your displays dedicated OSD menu. These are the buttons available on the display which allow you to configure the displays settings manually. Refer to the displays manual to correctly set up the resolution.

if that doesnt work try a manual override using radeon settings (this is the application which allows custom configurations for the GPU). To access this application, right click the desktop and select 'Radeon settings', hit the tab below "display". Follow this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imBs1Ux34to (skip to 0:45). Where he twice enters "1440", for your display you want to enter "3840". Once done, restart the computer to make sure the amendment is fully compliant with the operating system and see how you get on.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Ignore the above, I should have checked the specs. It's an ultra wide 1080p which should result to "3840 X 1080" and not "1920 x 1080"

When you right click anywhere on desktop and select "display settings", are you seeing the 3840x1080 option in the drop down menu?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh, that's not a resolution issue, that's a very large panel for a 1080p resolution. The best you can do here is either push it way back for comfortable viewing or if you're having to sit close-up, play around with the resolution scaling feature to see where it's most comfortable for you.

Ideally for close-up viewing, a 24" panel is a good size for 1080p. 27" is also decent but a better fit for 1440p. Shooting above 30" is a tough one as it works better with higher end resolutions with the likes of 4K/ultra wide 1440p/etc.

Where 1080p on large panels beyond 30" works nicely is when sitting at a distance.The larger the panel size the further away one should be. For example, a 1080p 42" television looks great if sitting 2/3 metres away.

The

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

You're safe to run Windows updates now prior to resolving the resolution/scaling issues. Once done, see if that has resolved the matter.

Once windows updates are complete - https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh-005 this provides details as to how to configure brightness, resolutions and refresh rate. Just scroll down to the "Display Refresh Rate".

Also what monitor are you running? Display resolution? (1080p/1440p/4k/etc)

Which cable are you using to connect the display and GPU (HDMI/DVI/DP/etc)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Glad you got it up and running!

As long as the system is running as it should be don't worry about the other drivers (on that particular mobo support page).

For the graphics card, pop over to AMD's official graphics driver download page: https://www.amd.com/en/support

  • From the first list of options select "Graphics"

  • Second menu on the right: select "Radeon 500 series"

  • Third menu: "Radeon 500 series"

  • Fourth: "Radeon RX 590"

  • Hit "Submit"

  • Now select "Windows 10 - 64-bit edition" and you'll see an option to download the driver. Download, install and restart the computer

This should solve the default lower resolution which is causing the blur (this is normal as Windows runs a lower resolution profile at default).


"AFTER" THE GPU DRIVER INSTALLATION:

Once complete, if everything checks out - now would be a good idea to update windows. At the bottom left, on the windows taskbar, in the search box type "check for updates". This will pull up the "check for updates" option. Select and search for any impending windows updates. Let these download and once complete you will requested to restart the machine. Go back and do the same process again, as Windows updates are applied incrementally. Keep repeating this process until you reach a point where the "check for updates" option informs "Windows is up-to-date"

That's about it! Download games and whoop some butt!

Comment reply on bejeweledman's Completed Build: 2019 Minimal RGB Build & First Desktop Build in 11 Years

  • 6 months ago
  • 5 points

Honestly I'm not interested in RGB lighting, what you'll see in this build is kinda "bland" by today's standards.

If that is bland by today's standards, today's standards have dropped :)

+1

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes that works. Wifi functionality is independent of CPU type. Basically AMDs motherboards use third-party modules just like intel. Hence cross-compatibility does exist between various components which is the norm!

Your motherboard at default is designed to run with that intel wifi driver. Otherwise the AMD motherboards support page would not have listed that driver....all the available drivers on that page are fully certified and made official by AMD for your particular board hence you have nothing to worry about.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

The pre-installed wifi module on the motherboard is "intel" based. Only the intel wifi driver is compatible.

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-X570-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-WIFI#down-driver&Win10%2064

Under "LAN DRIVER", its the third one down "Intel WIFI driver"

BTW, i'm free for next couple of hours if you have other queries - will respond more quickly.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, download, save to USB and transfer it over to the newer build and run the file. Restart the system and give it a shot.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you get it sorted?

If not, download the wifi driver from the mobo manufacturers website. Although its not always necessary, I always download the current chipset package too. If go down the same route, download the chipset first and then the wifi driver. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC#down-driver&Win10%2064

If that doesn't work, i'd look to connect the computer to the router/modem via ethernet for all impending windows updates and see if that solves the issue.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3400G Build"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

For an office build:

  • Faster single threaded intel i3-9100 4-core chip with integrated graphics. 3400G is more of a budget graphics intense endeavour, for light iGPU graphics workloads or 30-60fps bogged down gaming.

  • A 500GB SSD should suffice unless user-specific requirements suggest otherwise, coupled with a 1TB HD for backups and archived storage. The 1TB SSD + 1TB HD is achievable within the budget.

  • You really don't need that many case fans for this type of build. Even a single exhaust fan on the rear would do the job. x2 noctuas maintained.

  • With the savings at hand, you could upgrade to a 1440p panel for sharper image detailing and more screen real estate. Comes handy when multi-tasking or using windows split screen functionality. Alternatively, you could grab x2 1080p panels if this sort of arrangement makes things a little easier with multi-tasking.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i3-9100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $122.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $24.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B365M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $79.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $40.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.95 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $39.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design - Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case $79.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $49.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $109.99 @ B&H
Case Fan Noctua - NF-F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan $19.95 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua - NF-F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan $19.95 @ Amazon
Monitor HP - VH240a 23.8" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $109.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Microsoft - Desktop 900 Wireless Standard Keyboard With Optical Mouse $28.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $787.74
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 10:56 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gaming Pc for 3000 AUD !!!"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Nvidia it is!

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $314.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard MSI - X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $258.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $120.30 @ Amazon Australia
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $145.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card $918.00 @ Shopping Express
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $149.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $159.00 @ Austin Computers
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $143.00 @ Shopping Express
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2206.30
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 23:44 AEST+1000
  • The 6 core 12 threaded Ryzen 3600 is all you need for gaming. The 8 core 16 threaded 3700X is not necessary but small pockets of performance optimisations are possible in the long run - i don't suspect any substantial performance benefits going the 8c route.

  • You definitely don't need more than 16GB RAM for gaming, whether it's today, tomorrow, or 5 years+ down the line.

  • This sort of spec barely saturates a 550W power unit. 650W would be a nice plausible overkill and anything beyond is practically pointless.

  • The RTX 2070 Super is currently the best available GPU for a 1080p 144-fps capable display. With the 3600 CPU and 2070 SUPER combined, playing ARK on absolute top settings is smooth sailing all day long!


OPTIONS:

  • The Ryzen CPUs (3600/3700x) come with stock coolers which are more than sufficient for the job. If you fancy something beefier and quieter, there are aftermarket options but this is down to use preference.

  • Case: down to user preference. The Meshify C is an excellent placeholder boasting most/all modern day features/perks and superb airflow.

  • If you need WIFI, there are options with mobos with integrated wifi.

  • If you need more storage, simply add it on. The budget has plenty left to grab another SSD, if the preference is to move past HD's.

  • A couple of case fans would be in the affirmative. I'm just wandering whether you're looking for pure performance (incl. lower noise levels) or is RGB something of interest through the build (fans, RAM, cooler, etc)?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "X570 Steel Legend Boot"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

A possible corrupt windows installation not being recognised on boot.

Download 'Windows Media creation tool' from MS and create your own media installation USB. Easy process: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

Here's a quick guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLfnuE1unS8

Install windows again and give that a shot! At the start of the installation you will have the option of deleting any additional partitions and formatting the drive for a clean install. Eg. skip to 1:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E49IjCMKU4g.

Lastly, if you have additional drives connected (SSDs/Hard drives) disconnect these prior to installation ( a simple case of removing either the sata cable or power cable). Once the installation is complete hook them back up.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

That's 2 partitions on one drive. You need to remove both partitions and format the drive completely for the install. This process occurs at the beginning when installing windows.

Quick guide: (skip to 1:25, at the installation screen) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E49IjCMKU4g

@2:00 select "custom: Windows install...." and follow the instructions to remove the partition and format the drive.

Also, if you have any other storage devices added (other SSDs or hard drives), you want to disconnect these. Just unplug the sata cable from either the mobo or the storage unit itself. Only have the primary boot drive connected during the install. Once the install is complete, simply plug all additional devices back in.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First pc build - ran into an issue with video card"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

That sucks! Possibly bad media device or corrupt installation files.

EASY FIX: Download 'Windows Media creation tool' from MS and create your own media installation USB. Easy process:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

Here's a quick guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLfnuE1unS8 (picked randomly from YT, there's plenty of other tutorials if the guys annoying lol)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gaming Pc for 3000 AUD !!!"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

At stock conditions, its practically the same. The 3600 is seen to deliver better performance in some games, the 9700K is seen to deliver better in others - the difference being negligible. From a performance to cost difference, the 3600 comes in almost half the cost of a 9700K, hence those single threaded performance margins (trading blows either way) are not even worth mentioning.

Where the 9700K does leap out ahead is it's 10%-15% overclocking potential which may secure another 5-10fps (avg) in games. Question is, does that performance increase justify having spent an additional $250-$350 dollars for a 9700K + beefier aftermarket cooler. I guess it's down to user enthusiasm/preference, but for me, it's a waste of money.

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