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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinion wanted on first build ever"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Build looks great, with some changes:

  • A MAX-series Ryzen 3000 ready motherboard. Your current selection will require a BIOS update which is possible 1) either using a previous GEN CPU 2) or a CPU-less flash button update, if the motherboard supports this feature

  • 16GB RAM is more than sufficient for gaming

[OPTIONAL] Another possibility - being higher resolution gaming is more GPU-bound, you might fancy the RTX 2080 SUPER (10-20% avg increase fps performance depending on game type). This ones optional - more in favour for the higher FPS ensuing enthusiast @ 144hz. To make this possible, depending on your immediate storage requirements, you could opt for a single 1TB SSD + throw in another 50 euros on top:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €205.89 @ Amazon Italia
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard €129.00 @ Amazon Italia
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory €94.99 @ Amazon Italia
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €129.99 @ Amazon Italia
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card €797.00 @ Amazon Italia
Case Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case €77.05 @ Amazon Italia
Power Supply FSP Group Hydro G 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €99.00 @ Amazon Italia
Monitor LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor €499.99 @ Amazon Italia
Keyboard Logitech K840 Wired Standard Keyboard €96.18 @ Amazon Italia
Mouse Logitech MX518 Wired Optical Mouse -
Speakers Logitech Z200 0 nW 2.0 Channel Speakers €36.48 @ Alternate Italia
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total €2165.57
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 23:03 CET+0100

or save 50 eu and grab a more affordable Romer-G Tactile mech keyboard: https://www.amazon.it/Logitech-Tastiera-Giochi-Meccanica-Italiano/dp/B071XW5FW8/ref=sr_1_2?fst=as%3Aoff&keywords=mechanical+keyboard&qid=1579644337&refinements=p_89%3AAzio%7CCooler+Master%7CCorsair%7CHyperX%7CLogitech%7CLogitech+G%7CRedragon&rnid=1688663031&sr=8-2

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I Need RGB fan suggestions"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Is the SteelSeries Core 3 mouse compatible with the MSI RGB software controller? I'm assuming you're looking to sync everything together.

For MSI Mystic compatible RGB fans/other - https://www.msi.com/Landing/mystic-light-rgb-gaming-pc/compatible-products

As for specific recommendations, it's down to user preference in terms of design, lighting elements, user feedback, etc. Have a look at the linked fans and see what you fancy and check the specs per requirement. Personally, the RGB market for me grew too fast to play catch-up with a bunch of newer options available.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Do you guys use discontinued CPUS?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Apologies for the delay.

Taking the above into account (budget & workload), you'll be better off grabbing a 8-core/12-thread Ryzen 3700X which beats the discontinued i7 7740x by a long shot. Essentially, greater compute resources for core-count/multi-thread intensive audio production/video rendering workloads. Depending on what else the $700 budget entails (or possible wiggle room), you might be able to squeeze in a 12c/24t Ryzen 3900X.

Before suggesting a recommended parts list:

  1. Can i see what you are upgrading from? A fully specced-up parts list would help.

  2. Is that $700 for the CPU and MOBO only, with additional funds directed elsewhere (RAM/PSU/STORAGE/etc)? Or are you looking to upgrade with a fully compatible build within the $700 mark.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Budget PC between 500-600 euros"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Ooops, thanks for the quick fix.

Amended:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €144.90 @ Alternate
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €77.98 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Crucial BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive €54.44 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB Twin Fan Video Card €183.80 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case €30.34 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply €67.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total €633.26
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-13 04:05 CET+0100

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Budget PC between 500-600 euros"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

ive already got gear like a mouse monitor etc. and already got as license.

nice, glad you've got the peripherals and OS sorted already. 600 Euros for the build itself is a decent budget for a moderate gaming platform (well depends on the type of games played).

Kulaz has already put together a decent build for this sort of price range. Check your local stores (or online) to see whether you can achieve this sort of build within the suggested budget.

Or preferably something like this - again if possible in terms of local cost:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €144.90 @ Alternate
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard €100.79 @ Mindfactory
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Crucial BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive €54.44 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB Twin Fan Video Card €183.80 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case €30.34 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply €67.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total €656.07
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-13 03:02 CET+0100

you might be able to locate a 1650 super for around 150-160 euros - fingers crossed

A more affordable mobo is also very likely, only the MAX edition sees better upgrade potential (although not necessary).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cooling and storage for a simple, non-cutom loop Build in a huge Phateks Case."

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Holy shakkamoly,

Samsung 850 Pro @ 1TB for $450 is DAY LIGHT ROBBERY. There are better, faster or newer Samsung models or equally phenomenal performing units from other brands which are far more reasonably priced.

If you don't mind sharing more info: Whats all the storage for? Any particular reason why you're opting for a multitude of storage devices?

I have never used NVMe. Is this the best place to install OS, vs SSD?

I extracted the above question from one of your replies to another user. To answer the question, yes thats where you want to save your OS, applications and active workloads (although not all workloads are capable of utilising NVME superior R/W speeds). There are marginal performance advantages with saving games on NVME SSDs too, although not significant enough by any means to discount higher volume SATA-SSDs (if achievable for less). These performance advantages are limited to game load up times only as both NVME/SATA-driven SSDs are significantly faster when compared to traditional hard drives.


1600W PSU is overkill! A 750W unit for the build as it stands is plenty of juice in the tank. Not sure whether you're targeting a multiple-GPU arrangement for specific workloads which may benefit.


Just double checking: You already have the Alienware aw3418dw at hand and want a second 1440p higher refresh rate panel? If yes, are you looking for a similar panel arrangement with ultra wide higher pixel count (3440x1440) unit or a standard 27" 1440p (2560x1440) unit?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Budget PC between 500-600 euros"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Help us, help you :)

  1. Whats the build for? (general productivity/gaming/basic office applications/etc)

  2. Does the 600 euro target include the operating system? what about peripherals (display/mouse/keyboard/etc)

  3. Where are you based in EU? Depending on your region the recommended spec may differ with your immediate local/online store prices. If your local region is not listed with PCPP's supported retailers (top right, drop down list), which of the listed European countries best represents your local pricing/stock availability?

EDIT: ImperiousBattlestar BEAT ME TO IT - that was weird, almost an identical narrowed down reply. My long lost twin - located lol

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Do you guys use discontinued CPUS?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

i7-7740x - discontinued. I don't believe you're going to find these at a reasonable cost even opting for the used market.

There are alternative higher core count options available for this platform, whether it's worth investing in these entirely depends on your intended workload.

How much were you looking to spend?

Workload type?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need some advice. I messed around with some parts and this is what i got for a gaming/streaming/editing pc. Thought?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

this looks good!!

Have you looked into hardware accelerated encoding? (basically lesser performance hit on the gaming side whilst streaming). Preferably with a RTX 2070 SUPER graphics card. If the budget is tight, you can maintain the GPU encoding principle and drop the 3700X for a Ryzen 3600/3600x. 6 core (12 thread) 3rd GEN CPUs for are more than sufficient to get the best out of modern day demanding gaming titles.

Depending on your storage requirements, there's the option of ditching the 2-drive solution for a single 1TB FAST NVME SSD. eg. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/intel-660p-series-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1 Benefit being, faster game load times with all titles installed to the SSD + lesser cable clutter to deal with as these M.2 sticks simply snap onto the motherboard with a single screw (no cables).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1st pc build"

  • 1 month ago
  • 3 points

What are your thoughts with Ryzen 3700X's multi-threaded performance advantages? At stock, the 3700X's single threaded performance closely competes with the 9700K and sees greater benefit with far exceeding multi-threaded performance. The SMT branch enables faster rendering and adds greater compute resources for multiple tasks on the go or running 2/more projects simultaneously (incl. hefty bulk image editing).

The only compelling argument for the 9700K at this point it's "overclocking" potential. If OC is part-n-parcel with the build requirement, go for it, otherwise the 3700X for your type of workload makes a pretty compelling case for the finer balance for a multitude of single/multi-threaded workloads.

You could save more money:

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Good graphics card"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

RobertL90 has you covered nicely (assuming this is for 1080p gaming)

Those options may be limited if you're targeting higher resolution gaming displays (1440p/4K/etc).

Display resolution?

budget?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "advice/opinions wanted !"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

the list is set on private. Open list, hit "edit parts" and uncheck "private". You'll want to paste the link which is located directly above the parts list (a fixed snapshot) rather than the one in the browsers URL.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3K-4K Build Help"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

.... heck, when did AMD come back?

lol they've always been there at a competitive clash since Ryzen but now with their current 3rd GEN arsenal, the battlefront is bloodier. They don't plan on taking any prisoners either :)

For the CPU, are you looking at a custom liquid cooling solution or a closed-loop AIO?

Is that 3K/4K USD/CAD/AUS/GBP/etc?

Assuming you have a display already at hand, what are you running in terms of resolution and refresh rates? (eg. 1080p 144hz).

Also, Windows OS required?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Highest CPU for my Mobo"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

How much are you willing to spend? Preferably a preferred fixed budget target and then a second figure if you're able to stretch the budget more for some meaningful performance gains.

If you're gaming and running core-hungry workloads at the same time, you might want to consider opting for a higher core count CPU with the likes of a 3900X/etc (on the AMD platform).

Alternatively, if you're happy with the current performance or if it's workable, you might want to consider holding out a little longer for Ryzen 4000 series CPUs (expected in mid-2020 or so) or Intels next GEN arsenal. The i7-6800K for gaming, dev and lesser core-count intensive workloads is a pretty nifty chip. Anything better at this point will see some nice performance improvements but nothing overtly significant. Since your rendering workloads are an "occasional" endeavour, if you're happy with the i7-6800K's performance i'd stick with it. For faster rendering, or lesser time consumed higher core count process, there are some excellent Ryzen options with 12/16 core double threaded chips which will see significant gains (50%+) in faster project completion times.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Highest CPU for my Mobo"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

There are possibly a couple of variants available but nothing to justify the upgrade in terms of raw performance (not enough perf uplift, or any). Where higher core count optimised workloads may benefit with a little push on 8/10 core alternatives, the cost for the upgrade just doesn't cut it.

The more rewarding upgrade path > newer platform. Judging by your saved parts list, this would entail a simple mobo and cpu swap.

For a more diligent approach, whats the intended use? (gaming/rendering/editing/etc)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First PC, help wanted"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Is there a big difference between the Ryzen 7 3700x and the Ryzen 7 3800x? In gaming?

Minimal performance headroom achieved with a 3800X. Won't do much hardly anything for gaming. Save $50 and grab the 3700X.

Do I need a better CPU cooler or motherboard if I want to overclock the CPU?

Even a $45-$55 air cooler will have you covered nicely. 3rd GEN Ryzen CPUs are already, i guess you can say, overclocked. The little headroom offered is minuscule by design and you'll end up with performance issues. Best left alone with AMD's AUTO config as the boost clocks will scale higher and more consistently with the in-house complex intelligent auto-configurator.

If overclocking is something you absolutely desire with a $135 AIO > intel 9700K/9900K paired up with a $160-$200 Z390 mobo.

If sticking with Ryzen 3000, consider a "MAX" B450 motherboard or X570. Previous B450 models will require a BIOS update prior to running with the 3000 chip and further may present feature limitations by design (BIOS chip).

You don't need a 970-evo for gaming. For $10 more you can pick up a DOUBLE CAPACITY 1TB NVME ssd which will deliver the same performance for your type of workload. Premium NVMEs with saturated performance bearings are a better fit for specific workstation class builds which are capable of utilising the performance offered (games or general-productivity is far from that).

For a revised recommendation, let me know what your thoughts are with the CPU path?

Also, what display resolution and refresh rate are you intending on running with this build? (eg. 1080p 144hz)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is there a huge difference between $1,000 and $1,500ish gaming pc's?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The 8-core 2700X was going for around $160 incl. a decent heatpiped cooler = excellent value proposition and definitely worthy of 1440p gaming.

What the 3000-series chips do better are those faster single threaded speeds on 6 cores which drives in better potential to scale higher with FPS returns when lowering quality-settings in games (for the higher FPS enthusiast). Even at ULTRA game configurations, the faster 3600 possibly achieves around 5-10fps more (more in some lesser demanding CPU-intensive titles).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

You invalidated those by meddling with the system.

Once you touch anything in voltage you remove AMD's boost clock benefits or fixes so the fault is your own in not seeing the impact since you set control of voltage.

Incorrect and presumptuously over-exaggerated. A light off-set barely touches the encroached voltage profiles and thermal conditioning can be achieved within the set profiles with compliant parameters provided there-in (R-master). Not sure what you're on about but I sense you intend to continue this method of "over-charging" or deliberately misconstruing with your selective reading approach. Manual overclocking is one thing, aligned real-time system performance controls within the parameters is another - I'm beginning to question whether you have any experience with Ryzen 3rd GEN CPUs.

Old figures don't matter now that they no longer apply, new CPU will have the newer firmware preloaded, so looking at old figures doesn't apply anymore.

performance improvements with nothing to compare with? really?

Now your still pushing that power and efficiency are related to the subject of "TDP" hopefully people will read this through and look into it themselves to understand why you are wrong in that assumption.

I've never denied that. TDP is related to "power" and "efficiency" and a number of other factors but not a "definitive source which determines the thermal design power number". And why are you concerned with what others think? I'm more concerned about what you think and what your intentions are?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is there a huge difference between $1,000 and $1,500ish gaming pc's?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 3 points

For higher res 1440p gaming, the better the GPU the better the performance (visual quality/FPS). In this regard the 2070 SUPER is the better card (moderately appreciable enhanced performance with the addition of a more efficient GPU + overall better driver support for games + added bonus: RAY TRACING).

3600/3600X - doesn't matter. If you want the faster chip between the 2 with the moderately improved stock cooler, grab the 3600X. If you want something that runs quietly and delivers pretty much the same performance at 1440p, grab the Ryzen 3600 + a $30/$35 aftermarket cooler.

(note: the second build also adds a 2TB HD hence the cost comparison is lopsided - although there is some offset with the first sharing a more pricier Mesh C case)

The question is how much are you willing to spend? In this sort of price range, something like this has you covered very nicely for 1440p gaming.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $34.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $78.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $99.99 @ Newegg
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card $499.99 @ Best Buy
Case Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $83.98 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1172.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-02 14:46 EST-0500

Areas you may require/fancy spending a little more on:

  • Additional HD storage (if your games library exceeds the 1TB limit <10% trim for drive consistency)

  • Maybe a more future-proof 8 core Ryzen 3700X. Not necessary and personally i'd prefer the 3600 with an earlier exit plan (UPGRADE) in a few years.

  • Your previously selected motherboard offers integrated WIFI. If this is a necessary requirement, you can opt for a dedicated WIFI pcie card for $25-$35. Keep in mind you'll want a "MAX" B450 motherboard for Ryzen-3000 compatibility out of the box.

  • Preferably an aftermarket partner GPU for improved thermal/factory-OC/noise levels/etc. Something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xxrYcf/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-xc-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-3172-kr

  • A more premium case or whatever suits your fancy

  • A fully modular gold rated (better efficiency) PSU for around $100

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Iracing trip screen build"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I thought i'd mention, there are a couple of a nice CASE options available at a similar price range.

This one I've come across only recently and it's caught my attention: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pwzFf7/metallic-gear-neo-air-atx-mid-tower-case-mg-ne520a_bk01 .....comes in white too: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QW3mP6/metallic-gear-neo-air-atx-atx-mid-tower-case-mg-ne520a_bw01

I haven't plunged myself into viewing in-depth reviews just yet.... but will have a crack as I'm looking for a new case to spruce things up. You might want to check some reviews/user feedback/video representations on YT to get a better feel of what to expect. Mettalic Gear is a sub-brand owned by Phanteks and Phanteks does deliver "quality" where it's needed hence it already has my vote of confidence.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I'm not really bothered with idle/moderate workloads nor the hard-pressed observer effect which was resolved 2-3 months from launch. The query is more in reference to:

The original voltage profile ran with a 1.1v average and has since been increased to a 1.3-1.35v average depending on models according to AMD to solve models not hitting boost and stock clock speeds even with extreme cooling.

Which I believe you have now backtracked and responded to:

Current desktop load without running anything major should run in the "1.2v range" with normal background tasking after the change.

This is more in line with our current systems employing 3rd GEN Ryzen chips. The 1.3v+ reference seemed a little too excessive. Anyway, moving back to the heavier load scenario.... again even after the update/s we haven't seen hardly any performance gains nor thermal improvements. At best 50Mhz shift to what was supposedly a 100-200Mhz mark-up (stock cooler).

Coming back to:

Let alone that figure was set before AMD revamped the voltage profiles for the entire line to better fit the listed boost and stock clocks, now that they are all running 1.3v-1.4v at stock clocks the thermal and power draw across the line has increased.

Fixing invalid polled exertions is one thing and revamping voltage profiles is another. Prior to the update, the 3700X was already boosting up with hard-pressed loads at a similar range and I haven't seen any changes in this regard in terms of temps/draw. The 50Mhz uplift isn't consistent either and has nothing to with the observer effect fix but refined algorithms or the fine-tuning of multitude factors which are representative of clockspeed achievements and power consumption. As for idle/moderate conditions I don't believe GPU-Z was a culprit (observer effect) as manually configured tweaks characterised similar/same end-goal performance metrics. This remains consistent to-date. To clarify, I am not contesting whether the updates are limited by design (performance) but within the means of a stock cooler and favourable cooling conditions (decent airflow) - the achievements were minimal. Which does beg the question: Are there any representations of peaked performance comparisons where we can clearly identify the difference in power consumption > performance achieved in contrast to what we were getting prior to the AGESA load up?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

sounds like we're hitting a tit-4-tat curve ball with some elements of selective reading.

The efficiency reference is purely from an indicative representation and not by definition - oddly enough, explained previously but..... oh well!

The 65W reference is purely based on base-clock thermal "ability" and not limiting or sacrificing Wraith Prism's potential for a higher scaled thermal output. Not sure why the 135w reference was made unless you're speculating within selective means.

The original voltage profile ran with a 1.1v average and has since been increased to a 1.3-1.35v average depending on models according to AMD to solve models not hitting boost and stock clock speeds even with extreme cooling.

Can you provide a legitimate source which establishes the 1.1v skirmish across the board prior to the later AGESA/BIOS patch/s? As far as I'm concerned the earlier adoption had me tinkering into voltage off-sets to slash that volatile 1.4v+ brawl. I hope the reference provided is "real-world" materialised outcomes opposed to firmware/software poorly addressed 'would have beens'.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Iracing trip screen build"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $34.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $78.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $99.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $729.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply FSP Group Hydro G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $107.98 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.99 @ Amazon
Monitor MSI Optix MAG240VC 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $169.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor MSI Optix MAG240VC 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $169.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor MSI Optix MAG240VC 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $169.99 @ Best Buy
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2041.87
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-01 20:26 EST-0500

If you want to keep it closer to $2000 - grab 3 of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GD7H18F?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

You could opt for 75hz panels and save a little but 144hz offers greater FPS headroom with in-game quality configurations. Plus, makes for the better future-proofer assuming you're most likely to upgrade the GPU earlier opposed to the display.

3 displays = more graphically intense rendering demands on the GPU. Hence more GPU and less CPU will open up better opportunities to achieve a respectable FPS rate across the board. Although if you are able to increase the budget and a fancy a long-term solution for the CPU, the 8-core 3700X would be nice but not necessary.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

TDP isn't power efficiency

No one is suggesting TDP is a measure of "power efficiency"

TDP isn't ...... usage

No one is suggesting TDP is a measure of power "usage"

And that number isn't fixed any longer and varies depending on.......

The "rated" TDP was never fixed in the first place nor intended to fit a predetermined constant. It just doesn't work that way. Thermal throttled limitations with a number of variable factors can achieve the result closer to home but that's not the intended goal with a dense and split DIE double threaded CPU. What we do know is the 3700X comfortably hits it's rated base-clock frequency with a 65w TDP cooler.

Let alone that figure was set before AMD revamped the voltage profiles for the entire line to better fit the listed boost and stock clocks, now that they are all running 1.3v-1.4v at stock clocks the thermal and power draw across the line has increased.

The 3700X was already boosting up with a 1.3v-1.4v power drive. The vehemently "opportunistic" voltage profile was always apparent from the get-go. Later optimisations at the code level (firmware/BIOS) maintains pretty much the same opportunistic approach with a fine-tuned 100~200Mhz improvement. As we know very well the "AUTO" CPU_CORE voltage preset has always been set high through-out the 1st/2nd and now 3rd GEN platforms - something we can easily off-set/fine-tune to reduce the thermal output. This can be achieved more effectively with the 3700X whilst maintaining stability/stock performance under load.

Bottom line: At the sweeping consumer-level, we don't need to introduce complex design frameworks of TDP and what it defines to.... where it can help for the ordinary consumer is forming "some idea" as to which CPU runs hotter.... or consumes more power to achieve it's rated stock/boost clocks... which is where TDP can be used as an "indicator" and not a definitive source. When comparing the 3700X and the higher binned 3800X, initial power consumption with the stock cooler saw the 3800X demanding 12% more power which is where "efficiency" comes into the equation. 3800X demands a higher TDP rated cooler to comfortably manage a 3.9Ghz base-clock and where achievable on the bundled stock cooler, the temps will be least favourable.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My Final List of Parts. Any Issues?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Definitely Gaming, possibly some streaming and editing.

If streaming or multi-core intensive editing workloads are a probable, you'd be better off grabbing a Ryzen 3900X opposed to a 9900K. Although, where casual possibilities may not materialise, the better optimistic approach would be the more affordable Ryzen 3700X. It's a perfect sweet-spot in terms of performance and price.

On the monitor that I plan to get, resolution is 1920x1080 and the the refresh rate would only be around like 75hz.

A 75hz panel will cap your game performance to "75fps max". The 9900K and 2060 SUPER combo is capable of achieving 100-120fps in demanding games or 140fps+ in lesser demanding games. At 1080p resolution, you'd be better off opting for a 144hz panel to avoid the bottleneck. Alternatively, grab the RTX 2070 SUPER with a Ryzen 3700X CPU which matches the previous arrangement and adds some additional performance gain with FPS achievements.

[OVERCLOCKING] Probably not unless for some reason I absolutely had to.

Another good reason to consider Ryzen CPUs. Intel's key selling point at the moment is it's overclocking potential (more for the performance enthusiast). If this is something you want to keep open, i'd be more inclined to grab the 9700K with a 2070 SUPER.... and run stream-encoding via the GPU hardware encoder for lesser performance hits on the gaming side.


  • Good thing you've already purchased an AM4 socket compatible cooler. The following platform is compatible with the included cooler mount.

  • As you're looking for a display too, also thrown in a 1080p 144hz panel (capable of achieving 144fps). Other features: GSYNC compatible, 1ms response time, VA panel for improved colour reproduction and better viewing angles)

  • All items purchased already are marked as "$0 - purchased"

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $322.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler Purchased For $0.00
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory Purchased For $0.00
Storage Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $539.99 @ Best Buy
Case DIYPC Skyline-06 ATX Full Tower Case Purchased For $0.00
Power Supply FSP Group Hydro G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $107.98 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.99 @ Amazon
Monitor MSI Optix MAG24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.98 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1375.92
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-01 20:01 EST-0500

I'm just wandering whether your budget has any flex to explore other avenues - with the likes of a sharper image 1440p display paired up with either 2070 super or a 2080 super graphics card.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Iracing trip screen build"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Are the 3 displays included in the $2000 budget?

Operating system included in the budget or don't need one?

What about other peripherals: mouse, keyboard, speakers, headset, etc?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My Final List of Parts. Any Issues?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The compatibility note is nothing to worry about. It just means, when using the M.2 connector on the motherboard, one of the SATA ports will be disabled. M.2 runs on the same lane as one of the SATA ports hence only one end can be utilised at a given time. You don't need to anything other than check the mobo manual to see which SATA port is disabled and avoid it when adding additional SATA devices (you have 6 SATA ports in total, which will leave you 5 - plenty for the vast majority of users)

If you're looking for a recommendation on the entirety of the selected parts:

  1. Purpose of use (gaming/streaming/editing/rendering/etc)?

  2. If gaming, display resolution and refresh rate (eg. 1080p 144hz)

  3. Are you planning on overclocking?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Multiple SSDs"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Modern-day motherboards deliver excellent audio functionality. I take it you're eyeing up the Gigabyte B450 AORUS M Micro ATX mobo. These ports will be available on the motherboards rear I/O panel so you don't need invest in external hardware to achieve good quality sound. Same applies for the cam. You already have all the required connectivity built-in.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need high end streaming/gaming pc"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

If cost, efficiency and space isn't of concern, for best performance nothing beats a dual-build system for gaming and streaming workloads, with a capture card. A single platform works a treat with modern day higher core count Ryzen CPUs but sharing system resources is never absent of performance hits (FPS taxation) on the gaming side. Other benefits with a 2-build solution is the more adaptable/flexible cost-effective and expedient upgrade path + you get 2 real-time interactive platforms with dedicated peripherals which makes multi-tasking simpler without having to minimise the game.

If the 2-build solution is of interest, help us with the following:

  • Are these your casual 1080p higher quality streams or are you looking at higher resolution output (1440p/4k)?

  • For the gaming build, what display resolution and refresh rate are you targeting? (eg. 1080p 144hz, 1440p/etc). This will help to determine the graphics card as we don't want to grab something extraordinarily powerful to then be limited by display (bottle-necked).

  • Does the build include peripherals? (display/keyboard/mouse/etc).

  • Does the build include operating system (Windows)?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I agree with Gilroar + Zerk... The 3800X is pointless (not sure why AMD added this one to an already spot-on 3rd GEN Ryzen stack). I guess for $10-$20 on top a small increase in performance would be nice but anything above this sort of premium is more leaning towards enthusiasm opposed to spend-worthy lucrative performance returns.

Potential board-maker and AMD driver or firmware I/O instruction updates did initially open up some optimism to get more out of the higher binned 3800X but 5/6 months-on there's nothing worthy of note to report, other then a select number of buyers reporting some favour with a 2-3% performance margin (with expensive coolers/boards or a silicon lotto win). Keep in mind the 3800X's default TDP is rated at 105w, whereas the more efficient 65w 3700X delivers pretty much on-par performance - "efficiency" alone is an excellent selling point for the 3700X opposed to a higher binned power munching and poorly scoring 3800X.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1440p 144hz monitor?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 3 points

To narrow things down, give the 32" TUF panel a miss. 1440p (2560x1440 pixel density) sits sharply on 27" panels. If image sharpness at a arms-reach viewing distance (desktop) is key, 32" ends up stretching those pixels with some washed out detailing. Looks pretty but prettier on 27". The VG32VQ is also a VA panel. Great for gaming but my personal preference is the richer and more vibrant colour reproduction IPS vehicle.

Both the Dell S2719DGF and ASUS VG27BQ are TN panels. Bottom line, TN's are still great for gaming but with VA/IPS panels being more affordable now and capable of achieving 1ms refresh rates, it's a tough one to pass.

That leaves you the LG 27GL83A-B!!

I was going to suggest a VA panel MSI "OPTIX" 1440p 1ms gsync compatible display but seeing the LG is going for $330 (used) - that's a solid deal if it's in good shape with some level of warranty included (6 months+)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is my ram holding back my cpu?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 3 points

If you're hell-bent on achieving maximum FPS returns on a 240hz panel, yes there are benefits opting for a faster RAM kit.

Although, I wouldn't bother. The performance gains are not sufficient enough to warrant an exchange and already a 2666Mhz 16CL rated spec sits perfectly in line with these 9th GEN intel CPUs. In more graphically challenging demanding games on a 240Hz panel you're mostly limited by the GPU. If the 180-240fps endeavour is the focal point, i'd save every penny I can for a GPU upgrade (preferably next GEN RTX 3000 cards when they launch next year or AMD releases..... "if the price is right").


Other methods to achieve better performance without emptying your wallet:

  • MEMORY OC: manually fine-tuning timings/overclock the existing kit.

  • Overclocking the CPU (assuming you've got a decent cooler installed).

  • OC GPU (if capable)

  • In-game lower quality compromises for higher FPS returns.

  • Keep background processes at a minimal to unleash MAX CPU resources for gaming

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this ok for 1k"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Yes you will want more core/threads for streaming.

Keep in mind, there are 2 methods for encoding video whilst gaming.

  1. Using the CPU - this is software encoding (x264). You can expect 20-35% performance hit on the gaming side going this route.

  2. Using the GPU - this is hardware encoding (NVENC). 8-10% performance hit.

The GPU encoder makes sense if you're looking to secure lesser performance hit on the gaming side (essentially achieving better FPS returns). In other words you can stick with the RYZEN 3600 and use the RTX 2060 SUPER's hardware encoder to manage your streams. If you prefer software encoding or want both options on the table (CPU/GPU encoding), the 2700X makes sense. This is down to user preference.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New Build Opinon: Ryzen 3700x / GTX 2070"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Do you recommend the Gigabyte Arous Elite or Ultra as a replacement to the MSI I had listed?

Amongst the B450 stack, only MSI boards marked with "MAX" upgraded to a larger BIOS chip to unlock all Ryzen 3rd GEN features. These are the best options if you're going the B450 route. Alternatively, the 2 boards you mentioned will work but will require a BIOS update using a previous GEN CPU - some feature limitations may apply and forward optimisations will be limited (something you don't need to worry about with the MSI MAX Tomahawk).

What other CPU cooler do you recommend aside from the stock?

Under $50: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8GBrxr/scythe-mugen-5-rev-b-512-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5100

I had the Hyper 212 in my last build and liked it, but am open to better if better is out there for the money.

If you have this already save your money and stick with it. It's a decent cooler for these more efficient 3RD GEN Ryzen CPUs. Try it out and if you think you can do better in terms of acoustics you can always upgrade later..... swapping out coolers is super easy and quick.

So I should got with this Corsair PSU no matter what, correct?

Yes... Corsair RMx or similarly performing power supply units. For $95, the RMx is perfect

Another option: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qxcMnQ/fsp-group-power-supply-hg750 Just as good with the added benefit of flat cables. The H510 case conceals the PSU and spaghetti clutter under the PSU shroud which does make cable management a little more tricky in those tight spots. This is where flexible flat cables can help. Some will prefer the thicker sleeved cables as these do look nice through the tempered glass (when routed over to the GPU, 8-pin CPU connector + 24-pin ATX).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this ok for 1k"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

550W is plenty of power for this sort of build and you still get a sizeable amount of headroom for future upgrades. The current build is likely to draw only around 250~280 watts of power.

Alright but wouldnt a 2700x be a bit better for gaming?

Game performance (FPS) enjoys faster single threaded speeds opposed to lower clock rates and higher number of cores. The newer GEN 3600 Ryzen chip is a solid balance of 6 cores / 12 threads + 10~15% faster clock speeds, hence better for gaming.

If you were intending on gaming and streaming simultaneously, only then the 2700X would make sense. I wouldn't write off the 2700X either. It's still a great CPU for gaming and does come packing with a decent RGB cooler. Amazon had/has this CPU listed for $160 hence if you fancy a $35 saving it does present a decent option.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Why is my CPU showing shit results?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I had imagined a poor TDP under-rated cooler. Seeing you have a mammoth D15 in the bag, that presumption fell flat on its face. Very nice selection of parts.... incl. the Corsair Vengeance LPX (some of the best stuff available).

With BIOS set to default, try enabling XMP again (if two XMP profiles are listed, try both). First, make sure you've got both memory sticks snapped into the A2 and B2 dimm slots. The board has 4 dimm slots, the two you're targeting are the 2nd and 4th from the left.

If the issue persists, you have 2 options:

  1. Update BIOS to attempt the XMP route again. Later BIOS updates may have resolved earlier discrepancies. Personally, i've ran into a couple of system compatibility issues with Z270 & Z390 mobos (minor issues) which were quickly resolved with a BIOS update. This is a likely remedy.

  2. or, if you don't feel comfortable with BIOS updates - try "Manually" overclocking RAM (via BIOS).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I am such a computer noob, sorry, please help: $2000 budget"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Display resolution and refresh rate can stay at the standard (60) I looked them up to read about it and I don't think I need to spoil my eyes to such a super smooth vision XD

Is that 1080p 60hz? or 1440p/4K 60hz? The resolution matters :) If you're locked on a 1080p panel with a max gain of 60fps, you don't need an expensive GPU to get the best out of it. Something for $120~$170 will work just as good. If you're uncertain, list the displays make and model.

Storage: I think 2TB would be adequate as I make art timelapses instead of super 4k michael bay explosion movies

Excellent. The above list carries a primary fast NVME 1TB storage unit too. This is where you'll want to store your operating system, applications, run your active workloads + a few regularly played gaming titles (helps with faster game load times). The 2TB secondary unit for archived/catalogued data, backups, other games, etc.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Why is my CPU showing shit results?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

You're hitting 3.9Ghz on the turbo clock frequency, hence not utilising the full stock boost potential of 4.7~4.9Ghz.

What CPU cooler are you using?

Have BIOS configurations (tweaking) been changed or left on default? If changed, what settings did you apply?

You might want to check your temps as things could be running hot. Either download "open hardware monitor" (basic monitoring tool) or HWINFO64 (more informative monitoring application).

It would help to see the full parts list (esp. cooler, motherboard, RAM, PSU).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I am such a computer noob, sorry, please help: $2000 budget"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Operating System required: PC/Windows? (is that correct)

Yes

If there are questions that you would like me to answer to help you get more of an idea, I will do my best to answer it

Display resolution and refresh rate (eg. 1080p 144hz)? This would help to determine whether it's worth opting for a $500 graphics card.

Another aspect being storage. If you have higher capacity storage demands let us know.

Budget: 2000

A placeholder: (incl. OS)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $493.49 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $48.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $156.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $134.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $114.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $509.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.89 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan $10.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan $10.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1849.29
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-28 17:38 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New Build Opinon: Ryzen 3700x / GTX 2070"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

This time I am going for a Ryzen build (my last Intel build was my first in 15 years - I always went AMD prior).

With AMD pulling it's weight, it's a perfect time to rediscover Ryzen and it's huge performance improvements. For once intel, IMO, is on the back-foot.

Nice build - couple of recommendations:

  • Ditch the old and lesser performing Hyper 212 evo cooler. Years-on, we have better options with improved fin designs, faster heat immersion, quieter premium fan additions, etc.

  • If you fancy saving some money, the 3700X is a perfect fit for a Revised B450 Ryzen 3000-ready "MAX" motherboard.

  • If you fancy saving some money (again), 16GB RAM is more than sufficient for gaming. Although user use-case and memory utilisation familiarity may suggest otherwise (multi-tasking/heavier background processes).

  • For gaming the 970 evo NVME is pointless. Yes one of the fastest SSD's available but useful in workstation-class builds with applications/workloads which are capable of saturating the nippier sequential read/write speeds. For gaming, a regular consumer-level SSD for about $100 will deliver the same performance.

  • Grab a RTX 2070 "SUPER" GPU. These are newer revised models which see around 8-10% performance gains and are priced in a similar category.

  • EVGA BQ PSUs are a better fit for base-line/lower-power consumption builds. For a gaming powerhouse, you'll want something a little more robust with superior efficiency, improved protection features, higher quality and newer capacitors and overall richer components for durability and lesser heat waste (wattage excesses). Preferably fully modular too, as things get a little tight under those case PSU shrouds.

  • Threw in a couple of case fans for improved airflow

Something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $314.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $74.98 @ Amazon
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $99.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $509.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ Corsair
Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan $10.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan $10.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1301.89
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-28 17:18 EST-0500

I intentionally left out the CPU cooler. The 3700X comes with a pretty decent stock cooler and you might fancy giving it a go. You can always upgrade later. If you want quieter operations from the GET-GO, something like this pairs up very nicely: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8GBrxr/scythe-mugen-5-rev-b-512-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5100

BTW, just curious: What display resolution and refresh rate are you running with this build (eg. 1080p 144hz)? The reason why I ask, if you're hitting up on on 1440p/4K, although it's not the best value per performance, the $200 saved could be splurged out on the RTX 2080 SUPER.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Replace Deepcool Castle 240 Radiator RBG fans with Corsair LL120"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Has anyone replaced the CF120 RBG fans that come with the Deepcool Castle 240 AIO Radiator with Corsair LL120 fans before?

I don't have experience with this cooler

Will this work?

Yes. The rad takes 120mm fans. All 120mm fans will be compatible by default.

Just keep in mind, the corsair LL's won't work with the motherboards dedicated RGB controller. You will need a compatible adaptor/hub (Corsair lighting pro/Commander) - it's possible that the fans you're purchasing already include one. You will also need to download Corsair iCue software to manage the lighting elements.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this ok for 1k"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

For gaming preferably the faster single threaded and more efficient Ryzen 3600

An aftermarket Nvidia AIB Graphics cards for improved thermals, lower noise levels and factory OC performance gains.

1TB NVME SSD. Benefit being faster game load times + nippier transfer speeds.

One compromise: A "semi" modular PSU to keep closer to the $1K target.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $74.98 @ Amazon
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $99.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $413.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.98 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1038.90
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-28 16:29 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this ok for 1k"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Anything I should change for better value? 1k.

Purpose of use? (gaming/streaming/editing/etc). This would help to determine where best to allocate the funds for best performance.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Getting RAM to advertised speeds"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

As Synchro suggests, you'll need to pop into BIOS to activate the XMP profile. These profiles are pre-configured OC's which will crank up the frequency and it's tailored spec (timings/voltage/etc).

2133Mhz is the default speed and all DIY builds require either XMP auto-configs or manual tweaking to reach the kits overclocked rated performance.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I was wondering whether all of these items would fit in my case"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Yes these will fit. For some added confidence, the PCPP filter mechanism also approves, otherwise it would have tripped a compatibility warning.

If you haven't purchased the graphics card already, grab a RTX 2070 "SUPER". These are revised models which replace the 2070 (with 7-10% performance gains) and are achievable for less/similar price as the your currently selected one. 2070 SUPERs: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&c=447&page=1

If you're planning on overclocking, preferably a better motherboard + cooler. If you're not planning on overclocking, i'd look to the Ryzen 3600/3600X route. The Ryzen option presents a small compromise in single threaded performance but enables 30%'ish added compute performance in multi-threaded workloads.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "180 euros Budget Monitor"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The Y25F-10 seems like a decent panel but it's a TN model. Nowadays for a similar price range you can affordably pick up a VA screen (like the previous AOC/MSI models) whilst maintaining 1ms refresh rates. for higher quality visuals (colour/viewing angles/improved contrast/etc).

I guess a decent TN model does make sense if it's achievable with a larger gap in cost. For a mere 20 euros or so, if affordable, I would strongly recommend pushing up on VA units which deliver better quality colour modelling and pixel-vibrancy.... also better viewing angles whilst maintaining baseline image attributes.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gaming monitor suggestions Under, or Around $150?"

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

assuming you're looking for a 144hz panel (capable of hitting 144fps) + based in the USA:

For $150 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vdvbt6/acer-ed242qr-abidpx-236-1920x1080-144hz-monitor-ed242qr-abidpx

If you can stretch up to $160: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hh648d/msi-optix-g24c-240-1920x1080-144hz-monitor-optix-g24c Benefits: True 8-bit depth + 1ms faster response time + improved colour accuracy. These perks don't make much noticeable difference in gaming hence just an option. The competitive FPS gamer with sharp reflexes may prefer 1ms response times but for me (a casual gamer) I can't tell the difference between 1/4ms in real-time gameplay.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "180 euros Budget Monitor"

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Its a skirmish between the 2 AOC and MSI (both are VA panels hence worth the 20 euro overhead).

Both panels are almost identical, only the MSI shoots up a little ahead with 10-bit FRC (or, 8 bit + 2 FRC) with a marginally improved colour palette + slightly higher dynamic contrast range. Another good selling point for the MSI is the higher sRGB gamut (best appreciated for image design/photography and doesn't have much impact in gaming). If it's the same price, take the MSI.

Only issue: Can't see much user feedback for the MSI model (something I also look into before purchasing a gaming panel). The AOC on the other hand sees abundant reviews and for a gaming panel - it's equally fantastic.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "first build. What you think"

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

In short:

  • A better performing and more efficient GPU (anywhere between 10-25% better performance with graphics render)

  • Double the capacity, 1TB NVME SSD. You don't need a 970 evo for gaming.

  • Better quality and more thermally robust PSU

  • A newer Ryzen-3000 optimised motherboard

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $89.99 @ Amazon
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $99.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $239.99 @ Best Buy
Case SHARKOON TG5 ATX Mid Tower Case -
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.98 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $804.93
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-26 19:42 EST-0500

EDIT: OOPS! I was meaning to add a $30-$35 air cooler to the package. Glad I didn't as user preference may suggest otherwise....1). You can either opt for the AIO selected previously, 2) save money and pick up an equally adequate air cooler for around $35, 3) Upgrade the CPU to a better binner 3600X which entertains a slightly be better cooler but equally raises the TDP bar (not the quietest option but does a great job in terms of performance - for a stock cooler).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Multiple SSDs"

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Excellent. You don't need additional storage until you need it. Also for the long run, you don't want to max out the drive's capacity as performance hits will follow. Retaining ~10% headroom allows for optimal performance.

Another reason you might fancy investing in a secondary storage unit is "back-ups" or you could opt for cloud storage.

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