Needs to be featured, +1 great work!
awesome build again! +1
Out of interest, how often are you travelling to need an mitx system? Or do you just like the extra desk space?
Look forward to seeing your build!
Thanks for the recommendation on the fans. By the way, I checked inside my build last night and I'm actually only using a single Noctua push fan on my U12DX i4. Temps are fine.
3x evenly spaced aftermarket air-cooled cards works great! I no longer buy reference cards personally although I think the latest pascal founders editions are a significant improvement on the old reference coolers.
Yes you're right about the U12DX i4, it is slightly better optimised for the 2011 v3 socket but I would imagine the difference you'd see in cooling performance to be very minimal.
1) I'm using two 120 noctua fans yes. All the fans in my system are now noctua. I didn't notice any vibration problems on the CPU fans. I had some vibration issues with one of my front intake fans so I swapped out the screw mounts for the noctua rubber mounts and that fixed the problem. It doesn't look as glamorous but I don't have a side window on my case. This was partly an aesthetic choice, I wanted to keep the computer as understated as possible but it also helps to make sure I only choose parts that perform the best and are most reliable rather than look the sexiest.
I've never used noiseblocker fans so I can't really comment on them. I've found Phanteks and Scythe to be decent substitutes to notcua if you are concerned about the internal aesthetics. You could also try using rubber mounts and corner padding to the fans you already have. If you've isolated it to one particular fan you could simply remove the fan. The exhaust on the case is close enough to the CPU cooler so having 2 fans on the cooler itself is not entirely necessary. Could be worth a test and see if temps are significantly affected. 1 or 2 degrees is really not going to impact the longevity or performance of your CPU unless you're somehow already operating at max temps, which I highly doubt!
2) One thing I've found is you really do not need to fill every single possible fan slot to maximise cooling. You can sometimes get equal, if not better, cooling with fewer well-placed fans.
I have the 2x140mm intake. 1x120mm exhaust and the CPU cooler.
My GPUs are in slots 1, 4, and 7. Yes these aren't all 16x slots but it really makes no difference to performance — At least not for what I'm doing. Since the cards I'm using have really large coolers these are the slots that made the most sense to evenly space them. With a card in the bottom slot there is no room for bottom intake fans. That said, the total of 9 fans on the 3 GPUs are more than enough to cool them adequately. Plus they are all off at idle making the machine really quiet for basic tasks which I personally appreciate. Temps never rise above mid to high 70s celsius under sustained load.
Hopefully this ramble answers your questions! :D
hey :) thanks for the kind words, your build sounds awesome and I look forward to seeing it!
I now currently have 3 980tis with the gigabyte xtreme air coolers and I switched my CPU cooler to a Noctua NH-U12DX i4. It's near silent at idle and very tolerable at load.
I think it really depends what you want out of your system. If you want absolute max performance then you'd want a custom water loop with everything overclocked. If you value reliability, at the cost of a small hit to performance, then a fully air system is best. Personally I cant afford the risk of my system being down while I deal with a potential leak. I also like the ability to be able to really quickly and easily swap out GPUs and even the CPU without much hassle.
What's best for you really just depends on your unique needs. There's a reason however that very few professional workstations use water cooling, the added performance boost simply isnt worth the risk of damage to hardware and potential system downtime. Obviously, downtime costs money if you use your computer for work.
personally I haven't had any problems. Seems well ventilated and cools effectively.
LOL +1 for title alone. Nice build too!
Love this, and your SG10 build is great too! +1
WELL HELLO SNAZZY LABS :D
Really like this build and the vid you did on it. I tried the Hackintosh route last year but in the end I decided that if Apple isn't going to cater to my hardware needs then why should I bend over backwards to keep using their OS, no matter how good it is. I was an over 10 year-long apple user at the time. I'd love to see a follow up video after several month's use. Generally people end up buying a mac or going full windows, but I guess for a simple email box a hackintosh could be a viable option, hope it serves you well!
Nice build man, using FreeNAS?
Nice, thanks for the info! It's a really gorgeous build and considering your workload it should last you years if you want it to ;)
+1 absolutely stunning. This has to be featured!!
out of interest, what does your day to day workload consist of?
Hey there, +1 great build, love the SG10, one of my favourite cases. I would suggest you check out the build that Puget systems does with this case. https://www.pugetsystems.com/nav/serenity/Mini/customize.php
They have done extensive testing and have found that by removing the large top fan it makes the system both cooler and obviously quieter. They replace the fan with a simple piece of acrylic and sound dampening foam. Should be a pretty simple mod to do, might be worth checking out!
dunno if you're trolling lol.
If not, search for "danboard" ... and amazon sells the amazon version lol
Yeah I think the only place it's affordable is in europe! Which is rare for PC parts haha
I really recommend the case, hands down the best case I have ever owned. Beautiful and very compact for a full ATX!
well.. my boot drive is a 750 series intel nvme drive. It boots very quickly. Personally I have found the mobo to be rock solid. It's nice to have full compatibility with the xeon range too, so there are some nice possible upgrade paths with the CPU.
They have screws as well as magnets, so you can use both or just magnets :)
I know what you mean
Lovely build and lovely setup! <3 +1 TEAM NCASE
Liquid cooling is fantastic in certain scenarios. But I have stayed away from a custom loop for a few reasons. TLDR: I have air cooling to minimise downtime in case of a hardware failure and to keep my rig flexible.
The most important reason is reliability. It could have serious financial consequences for me if this machine fails and adding a custom loop means adding lots and lots more potential points of failure. Eg. Every single fitting is a potential leak point and I simply could not afford to have my entire machine out of action while I sort something like that out. Custom loops also require semi-frequent maintenance which I don't have the time for.
Second main reason is flexibility. Having the ability to really quickly swap out GPUs is really important for me, gives me lots of flexibility and allows me to potentially take some GPUS from this workstation to another workstation at another location without having to buy two of each GPU. This point of flexibility also ties into the previous point about reliability: If one of my GPUs fail I can just pull it out and put a new one in instantly. If this happened with a custom loop it would be a giant pain in the ***. haha
Sorry about the long answer!
Potentially, although usually they'd be used in unison on a single application that utilised CUDA
Well it really depends on your needs. Nvidia's 700 series has some very attractive options for CUDA-hungry users. 780tis are the best deal now in terms of price to performance when it comes to CUDA applications. The only problem is they only come with 3GB ram, which may or may not be an issue for you. Otherwise you could pick up a couple of titan blacks for around £700-£800 which would give you almost identical performance to a titan Z. 6GB 780s are also great, but they are also hard to find these days! Regarding quadros, there are very limited benefits to having one these days, at least for creative and design professionals, so yeah, don't get a quadro haha.
Technically the Titan Z is two Titan Blacks. But regardless, the only thing you can SLI with a Titan Z is another Titan Z :) which would actually be 4 way SLI, 2 GPUs in SLI per card.
Thank you so much! Lol
I do miss it! But it was time to move on for various reasons. And when I saw I could make a profit on it I decided to sell before pascal was released.
As I said in my description, it's still the single best card for Octane renderer. And at the price I got it for it was also a very good deal with price to performance.
Hahaha! Sorry about the heart attack but.. Thanks?
Right timing really. It was last year around May or June. There were a few second hand Titan Zs on sale then so prices were driven lower by competition. Now it seems they are really hard to come by!
Thanks for saying that :) It would be an honor!
Well, all I could do would be have a 780 take over the physX, which wouldn't really have an impact.
Awesome build btw, +1 and yeah, I do have a bit of an aluminum fetish...
So the smaller case is the nCase, the bigger one is the W2. This build is in the W2. The nCase is there just to show design and size comparison.
The large GPU is a Titan Z and the smaller two are both 780s. They are used for rendering in 3D not for gaming so they do not need to be the same, they only need to be CUDA enabled. I hope that's a little clearer!
I have tried gaming on it haha, many times! The titan Z performs just as well as a single 980ti at 1440p depending on how well optimised the game is for SLI :)
thanks for the feedback, i'll look at cutting out some pictures!
For gaming, I cant really see a need to go bigger than mATX. No one should really need more than 2 way SLI so a 5 slot mATX case should be fine. If you are building a work machine and need lots of hard drive bays or GPUs or want to do some fancy custom loop then I would definitely keep your options open and go for full ATX :)
Thanks dude, being featured would be a dream! :')
Thanks! :D I have room for a third card so I'm debating if and what that might be, or to go with an external GPU build. Once these decisions have been made I'll be sure to post it!
Thanks man! you're right! I thought I could downsize to mATX but then I found the W2 chassis and realised I didn't have to sacrifice on hardware and still have a relatively compact build. Plus, X99 is nice too! ;)
Thank you so much!
Thank you very much sir!
Yeah it's awesome, can't recommend it enough! One thing to be aware of is that it's CPU cooler height limit is quite short for an ATX case, about 165mm I think.