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Modest AMD Gaming Build

by manirelli

Description

CPU

Our Modest AMD Gaming Build is built around the Ryzen 5 2600. Using the stock cooler you should be able to achieve moderate overclocks on this unlocked processor.

Motherboard

We've paired the R5 2600 with a parametric list of mATX B450 motherboards that supports up to 64GB of DDR4 memory, multiple SATA6 devices, and front panel USB3.0.

Memory

For this build we opted to go with 16GB of DDR4 memory. The parametric filter finds the best price on 16GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to a range from DDR4-3000 to DDR4-3400 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory. At the current time, using memory rated over 3400mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory.

Storage

We're also using a parametric filter that will actively select the best-priced SSD of at least 500GB capacity. Additionally, we're including a 2TB mechanical hard drive in a parametric filter for things like storing media and extra games. Everyone's storage needs differ, so feel free to change the capacity to your usage.

GPU

At this price point we suggest using the AMD RX 580 8GB edition. We specifically filter for the 8GB model as the 4GB may run into issues in more VRAM-heavy games. The performance across most games will be similar to the Nvidia GTX 1060. We've created a parametric filter to show you the lowest priced, full sized AMD RX 580 8GB which will be powerful enough for most AAA games at 1080p.

Case

All of the components are housed in the Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX mini tower. This case is an affordable option that has a large side panel window, front panel USB3.0, room for full size graphics cards, and cutouts in the motherboard tray for easy cable routing.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed fully and semi-modular units, all of which will provide more than enough power for this system.

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Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 294W
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Motherboard
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  • Socket / CPU: AM4
  • Form Factor: Micro ATX
  • Chipset: AMD B450
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
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Memory
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3400
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
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Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 500 GB - 15360 GB
  • Type: SSD
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  • Capacity: 2000 GB - 15360 GB
  • Type: 7200RPM
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Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: Radeon RX 580
  • Video RAM: 8 GB
  • Length: 223 mm - 403 mm
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Linoleumz 3 points 23 days ago

Hypothetically, between equally priced GTX 1060 6GB and Radeon RX 580 8GB cards, which would you pick for this build? (seems both are in the parametric filter, though the GTX will never match because of VRAM minimum).

Jakeap38 16 points 22 days ago

Both cards are better in different games but I would get the 580 because of Freesync support.

Linoleumz 2 points 22 days ago

good call. Thanks!

usher.jonathan 1 Build 8 points 21 days ago

freesync monitors are soooooo muuuucchhh cheaper!

and as for the "certain games" it all comes down to intensive physics processing. thats the only place amd suffers. catzilla benchmark will show you that when you massivley drop frames during the pure physics segment of the benchmark. everything else held solid over 100fps easy

msbcool 2 points 17 days ago

Also, with the RX 580, you get 2 of 3 games free (The Division 2, Devil May Cry 5, or Resident Evil 2). With the 1060, I believe they're running a promotion where you get Monster Hunter: World for free.

connor333 2 points 15 days ago

Freesync for this? Just curious, seems like a strong 1080p 60fps machine but I could be wrong.

Jakeap38 1 point 15 days ago

Well, even if it isn’t worth the freesync, the 580 is faster in some games and is cheaper.

Zirf 1 point 14 days ago

this is more of a 1080p 100fps machine.

BigS22 1 point 14 hours ago

uhhh, no it isn't. I have a 1060 which is very similar to the 580 and it only gets around 60-90 in most games. And im on 1080p

FatBoyJD 5 Builds 0 points 15 days ago

It is, unless you're trying to go higher than 60 fps or you're running 1440p.

Sakada 1 point 10 days ago

Bro, is that VRAM matter?

flxa 3 points 22 days ago

Hi, I'm new here and I'm looking for something that's cheap and will handle VR. Would this build be suitable for VR?

Ultimate_Input 4 points 20 days ago

Yes

jmbourget 1 point 8 days ago

I was exactly going to point this out, this is a nice VR setup.

jmbourget 1 point 8 days ago

I might add that the only advantage I see going 2xxx gen with Nvidia is that they are VirtualLink compatible for the up and coming VR headsets.

Jeffthefearmonger 1 point 1 day ago

Yeah

RiceCracker86 3 points 17 days ago

Luis

hello_there_125 3 points 17 days ago

Fonsi

eesti 3 points 15 days ago

Despacito

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GoldTerror 2 Builds 3 points 17 days ago

hit or miss, I guess they never miss huh

mrorigoto 3 points 16 days ago

I'm new to the pc scene dudes, anyone recommend some quality videos on building a pc? it would be helpful, thanks

Ryzin 8 points 15 days ago

Bitwit has an excellent in depth video (55min) of him step by step making a pc.

Rw9122 2 points 16 days ago

Look up Carey Holzman on YouTube.

Onegoofycook 2 points 6 days ago

Tech Deals on YouTube has a few, along with in depth explanations on the components.

FieriRoad 2 points 23 days ago

Is the change from a gtx 1060 6gb to an Rx 580 8gb a significant difference? And if so is it for the better or the worse?

Spartan_Spar 3 points 22 days ago

There will not be much of a difference between the two. It's a sidegrade and not an upgrade. If you want an upgrade them go with a 1070, 590 or better.

TheBudderMan5 4 points 17 days ago

the 590 is not comparable to the 1070 tho

mfskelly 1 Build 4 points 13 days ago

This is true, the 1070 is more powerful than the 590. The 590 is basically an overclocked 580. If you can afford a 1070, that would be better. However, you have to consider the cost of Gsync monitors vs Freesync monitors too. If on a budget, you can't go wrong with a 580 and a Freesync monitor.

Jakeap38 2 points 22 days ago

Check out some benchmark videos that compare. 580 is cheaper and better in some games (in some games 1060 is better), considered the best price/performance high end card.

knk133 1 Build 2 points 21 days ago

Both cards perform pretty much the same. There are some games like fortnite and overwatch where nvidia performs better, and I've found that GTAV really likes amd cards. Really you should factor in what games you are going to play into your graphics card decision and do some research and look at benchmarks. Personally I would save up some pennies and get yourself a used 1070ti or 1080 since those cards seem to be a sweet spot for 1080p 144hz gaming with no problem. I bought my 1070ti from a miner on ebay and it is working just fine for the little over a month that I have had it.

TrevorHaut 1 point 14 days ago

Seriously I scored a GTX on E-BAY for 338 bucks and I am very pleased so far

lBulitzl 0 points 10 days ago

The 580 is a significant step up from the 1060 overall

usher.jonathan 1 Build -1 points 21 days ago

the rx 580 sits between a 1060 and a 1070, but amd cards lack the dedicated physics cores that nvidia has. my rx580 smashes everything in the catzilla benchmark except the pure physics test, where i drop from over 100fps to around 40. you cant have the nvidia proprietary PhysX enabled in the in-game graphics settings and it will slow during heavy physics scenes. AMD has superior texture mapping and faster memory bus, though... so it stays competitive.

considering i bought my rx580 for half the cost of 1060s a couple months ago, amd wins there.

hello_there_125 3 points 20 days ago

the rx 580 sits between a 1060 and a 1070

rx 580 = 1060 6gb. 1070 is far ahead of both of them

usher.jonathan 1 Build 1 point 20 days ago

yes, 1070 is better than a rx580, but that doesnt make it equivalent to a 1060. as i just said above ^ there are many differences between the brands. there are no direct equivalents between any cards from either of these companies. both have things they excel at, both are awesome

hello_there_125 0 points 16 days ago

https://youtu.be/1p9lySsrYcw?t=375

3% difference. They're the same thing.

rogdog56 2 points 22 days ago

gtx 1060 and rx 580 8gb... but wouldn't the 8gb filter make the 1060 not fit or because you added the 1060 it excludes it from the 8gb filter?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 3 points 22 days ago

The 1060 wasn't intentionally left in there as an option and has been removed.

Linoleumz 1 point 22 days ago

I don't think the 1060 was left in intentionally, it was used in the previous iteration of this build

snapbackgrandma 2 points 21 days ago

I have the AMD FX-4300 Quad-Core Processor and I would like to know if I upgrade my video card to the Asus - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Dual Video Card would I need to upgrade my processor as well?

hello_there_125 1 point 20 days ago

yes, the fx-4300 is insanely outdated

Ryzin 1 point 15 days ago

Yes yes yes and yes

g98765g 1 point 14 days ago

Currently running a 580 with a FX-8320 and it's performance is just not satisfactory anymore, I would definitely recommend an upgrade to a Ryzen CPU and chipset.

Onegoofycook 1 point 6 days ago

I can't say yes fast enough. Ryzen7 1700 is a beast. I have it. It should last you maybe 3yrs. If you are going to upgrade, go ahead and get an x-470 motherboard for future upgrades and power delivery.

Jeffthefearmonger 1 point 1 day ago

Big yes

drom296 2 points 20 days ago

The AMD Ryzen 5 2600 is sold out.

What's the difference with the 2600x?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1417539-REG/amd_yd260xbcafbox_amd_ryzen_5_2600x.html

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 4 points 20 days ago

The 2600X is slightly faster for an increase in cost.

hello_there_125 -4 points 18 days ago

if by "slightly faster" you mean a 5% increase

in my book that's 0 increase in performance

cdrslan 4 points 16 days ago

I think by 5%...they meant slight increase, as clearly stated.

hello_there_125 -3 points 16 days ago

oops it's not even 5% increase in FPS because CPU doesn't matter for gaming as much as GPU

cdrslan 5 points 16 days ago

Thus the phrase...slight increase. Thanks for reading.

Squishy8206 2 points 14 days ago

CPU heavily increases gaming performance thats like saying a core 2 duo can handle Shadow of the Tomb Raider with a 2080 ti. It can't there is a huge cpu bottleneck to the point where you bascally aren't getting any performance.

Ash_Gamez 2 points 10 days ago

That is not entirely true depending on the game. Besides, nobody said anything about FPS.

hello_there_125 0 points 20 days ago

Besides the cooler, no difference

mgracehalligan 2 points 19 days ago

Hello! I have some rather simple questions, about your builds on the site. My son is 13 and wants nothing more then to build a computer, I have built towers in the past (eons ago) and was wondering how the step by step directions look. Are they rather simple to follow? Obviously we would help him but just didn't know if it looked like IKEA instructions..lol. As far as software goes, would the purchase of Windows be separate? Finally, if we purchase this model will he be able to upgrade easily (RAM, Video card etc.) in the future?

Aethermancer 5 points 17 days ago

Assembling a computer is not much more difficult than building Ikea furniture. Keep your work area clean, ground yourself, and attach the parts. It's fairly foolproof now, just don't force any parts, if you have it lined up right and in the correct position it will slide in. This site is good for verifying compatibility, use it as a checklist to cover your main components.

Software (windows) is a separate purchase. It should be straightforward as well.

This build will give you a good few years of upgrade potential as long as you're not trying to go bleeding edge. But that would be jumping to a new class of equipment.

This should give him plenty of space to upgrade disks, memory, or experiment with over clocking and cooling without risking expensive components. But each of those would be new purchases of components, such as upgraded coolers, etc. Storage would be the only real supplemental upgrade

rscott08 1 point 10 days ago

The only thing I would add is that most of the instructions during my recent build have been pretty terrible. When I installed my motherboard it didn't even mention in the instructions that standoffs had to be placed in prior to screwing in the motherboard. I would recommend BitWit and Paul's hardware on how to properly assemble a PC. The assembling is really not that hard, but some mistakes can ruin your system. Also there are sites like Kinguin where you can purchase the windows 10 product key for around $20. The only thing is that you will need a usb flash drive to put the product key on. There is usually instructions that come with the product key on how to set it up for your new PC.

mgracehalligan 1 point 18 days ago

also does it come with a key board

KaleTheWise 1 point 18 days ago

I don't think so. You can add extra stuff (keyboards, mice etc.) down below.

Nick3497 1 point 18 days ago

I’m wondering how future proof it is as well.

OolonCaluphid 2 Builds 3 points 14 days ago

Very. this is a huge amount of PC for $800.

BAH3103 1 point 10 days ago

I've built 10 or so machines over the years but this site reduces a lot of the research needed. This build is very similar to a build my stepson and I put together for my daughter. A couple of points to note: - Paying 5 lots of freight to 5 different suppliers can add a lot of extra cost. Also, some vendors charge outrageously for freight. It might pay to look around to optimise the freight costs; perhaps compare 2-3 vendors as a rule. - Prices change very quickly so check regularly between build planning and buying. - Look for specials. My recent build took advantage of great deals on a Cryorig Cooler and an RX 580 card, which saved $100's.

Faplamator 1 point 10 days ago

To add onto your questions, search on youtube on how to build a gaming pc and pick a video you like the most lol, there's plenty of them.

Now for windows, you can go onto their official site and download windows for free, once the pc is build load it up to a usb stick and again follow a youtube guide on how to install it, the trick is that you will be using windows tats not 'activated' but aside from the barely visible prompt telling you to activate you will be able to use it as normal, been doing this since last year haha

Dont even worry about upgrading RAM 16gb is overkill, im pretty sure that mobo has 4 slots anyway so yes its upgradable.

Jeffthefearmonger 1 point 1 day ago

If you don't mind a small watermark at the bottom left corner of your screen, you can get Windows 10 for free when you choose the "I don't have a product key" option during your Windows installation.

LeoDro 2 points 15 days ago

Do i need a pc cooler for this build? if I do which one would be good?

DeRuyter 2 points 12 days ago

I was looking at this build but I ran a calc on thebottlenecker.com and it came up with a 30% bottleneck at the GPU. They were recommending a Ryzen 3 2200G with the RX580.

Should I be concerned about a bottleneck?

HikingMike 3 Builds 2 points 11 days ago

Interesting site. I'll give that a try for my current builds and see if it gives me the answer I expect. Anyway, bottlenecking is dependent on the type of workload just as much as the actual hardware CPU/GPU balance. If you're talking gaming, then it's dependent on the specific game.

For a 30% bottleneck on the GPU, I imagine this is somewhat due to the current huge gap in performance between the RX 580/GTX 1060 and the next higher priced choice (excluding RX 590). And this Ryzen 5 2600 would have a large advantage in many CPU-bound loads over the Ryzen 3 2200G. Ryzen 3 2200G with RX 580 makes sense for saving money on a system used mostly for gaming. It's a good CPU. But personally I would also go with the Ryzen 5 2600. You can easily upgrade the GPU in the future by swapping in a new one, but upgrading the CPU is usually a whole new system for me because years down the road, often your money doesn't get you much CPU improvement on the same socket. Though it is possible this is changing in recent years since supposedly AMD plans for their current socket to be around for a while and performance gains in CPU generations are not as big as they used to be.

I noticed under the bottleneck results it says "This result is based on average CPU and GPU usage from different programs and games. It changes based on operating system, background processes activity and targeted applications. This result is not universal and changes based on differences in hardware and software enviroments. Please do not use this calculator primary as decision maker than as helping tool to understand performance correlations between different components."

So I wonder what is included. It would be an awesome feature addition if they would allow you to select the workload, maybe generic gaming, and specific games, video encoding, etc., so you could see the bottleneck result for the different things you plan to use it for.

DeRuyter 1 point 11 days ago

Thanks! Good point on future proofing the CPU.

hello_there_125 2 points 10 days ago

That website's dumb. Bottlenecks depend on many factors, most of all the game you're playing. That site tries to do the ol' "one size fits all" trick but it doesn't work. Also, wtf does "30%" even mean in this context? 30% performance lost that the GPU could have with a better CPU?

TeethBrush 2 points 5 days ago

Any concern with the case only having one fan for overheating? Would it be recommended to purchase 1-2 more fans for intake?

Volans.Dac 2 points 5 days ago

I just have a few gripes with this build. Firstly, let's start with the CPU. The Ryzen 7 1700 while a generation older, boasts 8-cores 16-threads for around $20-$30 more than the Ryzen 5 2600 . Second, the storage, currently the Samsung 860 Evo is $72.99 for the 500GB version. Samsung's SSDs have dropped in price significantly over the years and without any hesitation I'd pick up the 860 Evo over Munchkin. Not only does it boast better performance but it includes a 5-year warranty compared to Munchkin's 3-year warranty for only a difference of $9.

Confused101 2 points 3 days ago

Do I need to buy fans?

Geneho 1 point 23 days ago

Wouldn't the Ryzen 7 1700X perform better?

jsilverstreak 7 points 23 days ago

The 2600 has better single core performance and better all core boost. Few games can take advantage of the extra 2 cores.

DatRandom0ne64 1 point 22 days ago

Doesn't the 8GB VRAM setting filter out all GTX 1060s? Change it to allow 6GB and 8GB cards

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 22 days ago

The 1060 wasn't intentionally left in there as an option and has been removed.

luizamoruz 1 point 22 days ago

How do you know <<Gigabyte - UD PRO 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive>> and <<Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory>> are good brands? I never heard of them

hello_there_125 2 points 20 days ago

There's this general misconception that some brands of RAM are inherently better than other brands of RAM at the same speed and timings. That is not true.

Squishy8206 1 point 22 days ago

Team Group (RAM) is a great budget brand sort of like AMD with their budget CPU's and GPU's, Gigabyte is a really widely known company for their motherboards, but their storage should be good.

hello_there_125 0 points 20 days ago

Team Group (RAM) is a great budget brand

they're not a budget brand, they're just like any other RAM brand.

eesti 3 points 17 days ago

I think by budget, I think they meant that the ram is usually lower priced compared to brands like Corsair

Squishy8206 0 points 10 days ago

Exactly and they have worse performance.

eesti 1 point 10 days ago

What do you mean by 'worse', it's not like they are making the ram in house

Squishy8206 1 point 16 days ago

Yes they are, compare their prices to some more known brands like corsair not on sale, Team Force RAM goes around 100-120 and corsair not on sale goes around 130-160 for 16gb

hello_there_125 1 point 16 days ago

doesn't make the two brands any different in performance

Squishy8206 -1 points 10 days ago

Of course, it does! Cheaper parts = cheaper performance.

Linoleumz 1 point 22 days ago

the build guide uses dynamic filters that simply select the cheapest hardware that satisfies the required specs (for example "Capacity: 500 GB - 15360 GB, Type: SSD"). If you want to browse the various brands that match the filter, click on the filter and it will show you them all

Hopalong02 0 points 20 days ago

Gigabyte make good gpus and motherboards, Vulcan I'm not sure about but a quick Google search would tell you all you need to know. If you don't like what you find click on the para-thing filter and select a brand which is reviewed better

3mm0t 1 point 21 days ago

I have never built a PC before but does everything work well together or should I switch out some stuff

PCPARTPICKER1096 1 point 17 days ago

theres a compatibility checker at the top of the list, its fine

hello_there_125 1 point 20 days ago

Massive improvement over the other build guides , but I just want to point out something: there's only a few games currently that uses more than 4GB of VRAM, and if it's safe to assume that games will use more VRAM in the future, it's also safe to assume that games will become more demanding in the future. All you have to do is lower the textures, and textures on high won't make a big difference to a game that will run on a lower graphical quality anyway (due to them becoming more demanding).

Baculites 1 point 20 days ago

Im basing my first build on this guide, any suggestions on what monitor specs to pair with these parts? Do specific games require drastically different monitor specs? Thank you

kenley89 1 Build 2 points 18 days ago
RawrCantBuild 1 point 20 days ago

im guessing a gtx 1060 6gb is com patible with these parts? probably just gonna get a used 1060.

kenley89 1 Build 1 point 18 days ago

yes

eesti 1 point 17 days ago

If you're luck, you can find a used 1070 under $300, I've seen some under $230 myself

peps 1 point 19 days ago

I've been throwing around the idea of a setup for a bit of gaming but primarily video editing (AE / PP) and mostly 1080p footage - is anyone here editing on the Radeon cards? I always see people say how the Nvidia cards are better supported, but is it night and day or fairly minor differences?

Trying to keep the budget fairly tight, so any recommendations are very appreciated!

kenley89 1 Build 2 points 18 days ago

Video editing is CPU heavy, this system will be just fine for video editing and gaming. (not the best but just fine)

Squishy8206 1 point 9 days ago

Yeah, GPU does not matter for video editing as long as you aren't streaming, NVIDIA is screwing everyone over though, their prices are insane compared to AMD for about the same performance, for example, 1060 6GB vs the RX 580, the 580 is cheaper with slightly less performance. The 1060 6gb, on the other hand, is more expensive for about a 3-5% gain on the 580.

consolelover 1 point 19 days ago

Would it be price efficient to get the 1600 instead and get a cheaper motherboard that supports b350? \

kenley89 1 Build 1 point 18 days ago

It would be cheaper :)

consolelover 1 point 17 days ago

das is what i thought.

Squishy8206 1 point 9 days ago

It'd be cheaper but in reality 2600 is the best bang for your buck right now, and if you get a motherboard that is b350 from asus they have updated their bios to be 2000 series ready with ryzen, so I recommend like an asus prime b350 with a 2600.

yung_human 1 point 19 days ago

do i need the intel state drive because i was thinking of replacing it with the operating system to fit my budget

Ash_Gamez 1 point 10 days ago

Huh? If you are asking if you must have the SSD, no. You could run it from the 2TB hard drive but I would advise against that as it would mean slower load time and (more of a personal issue) can fail easier and sooner (depending on use case). And if you have any incentive to learn, you could always try Linux which is completely free. My recommendation for a distro is Lubuntu. If not, I would go for windows and run Linux in a virtual machine to try it out and see how it feels so if you want it in the future that will be an option. BE WARNED THAT IT IS A HUGE LEARNING CURVE!!! Its not TOO hard to get by some initial steps but again, that depends on how experienced you are with software.

KaleTheWise 1 point 18 days ago

Would this one work versus the PSU listed? I'm only concerned with the lesser efficiency of the bronze bringing up temp, but for $30 it's hard to beat.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817139147

Ash_Gamez 2 points 10 days ago

It would work, although it is lower quality and i recommend a fully modular PSU so you can have your own custom cables but it is a viable replacement. This link shows you the differences between Non, Semi and Fully modular PSUs just in case you weren't aware. https://support.nzxt.com/hc/en-us/articles/202798380-Full-Vs-Semi-Vs-Non-Modular-What-Are-The-Differences-

KaleTheWise 1 point 10 days ago

Thanks!

Hasmicdesigns 1 point 18 days ago

I'm not seeing a cooler? Is there something I'm missing in the build? I'm trying to educate myself to build my first gaming rig and I thought a cooling unit was one of the essential parts?

kenley89 1 Build 3 points 18 days ago

The R5 2600 comes with a stock cooler.

SuperSerbTV 1 point 17 days ago

This is a nice clean build!

Untapped 1 point 17 days ago

Would this be VR capable?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

Check against your preferred headset but it should be overspecced for most of them.

Mustang@ 1 point 17 days ago

New to pc Building is this all i need for the pc besides windows

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

You'd also need a monitor and peripherals like mouse/keyboard if you don't have those. Otherwise this is a complete build.

Valdemar04 1 point 17 days ago

Do I need an ethernet cable for this?

TsarMaxim 2 points 17 days ago

If you want Internet, then yes. If you want to use WiFi instead then you either need to change the motherboard to a motherboard with onboard WiFi or get a network card that has WiFi.

Kupkake 1 point 15 days ago

I just completed this build (my first!) and I'm happy with the results... I just need good WiFi and ethernet is not an option. Any suggestions for good/decent WiFi adapters?

HikingMike 3 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

Do you know which wireless standards are available in your target wireless network? N, AC, etc? Usually more antennas the better. By the way, I used wifi with my desktop for a long time - an internal 3-antenna dual-band N card from TP-Link. It was ok, but wired is just better, faster, less problems. I had to move my wifi router around to find the best spot so my desktop got decent connection and laptops/phones around the house could still connect too. But you gotta do what you gotta do.

Kupkake 2 points 11 days ago

The router I'm using is an R7000 Nighthawk, but it's downstairs. I measured the distance from the router to my room if I were to run cables under the carpet and it came out to nearly 100ft. I do have a cable for it, but the head of the house absolutely HATES seeing cables run around anywhere, she'll flip if I so much as move the router, but I'm the one who primarily runs it/fixes it/etc so I can fiddle with it's settings if I want. The WiFi reception in my room is just simply poor for my PC, I have a crappy USB adapter my little brother loaned me so I can help set up my pc and test it. I just want a good WiFi setup so I can at least game on it from the other end of the house, at least until I can find my own place. So ethernet is of no help to me ATM, and any minor hiccups produced from using WiFi in gaming will be acceptable.

When I go into the wireless setup of the router, I can see:

2.4GHz (b/g/n) 5GHz (a/n/ac) It seems to also have "smart connect" options, which seems to let the router decide the best between the two bands. I believe it's dual band, if that makes a difference.

BAH3103 2 points 10 days ago

There is no doubt that Cat5e cabling is the best option for connecting in the home for gaming and video streaming. However, unless you're a licensed cabler who can install network cabling safely (there are power cables in them walls too!), it's not an option (unless you can run under carpet etc.) Some solutions: 1) Stick to 2.4GHz as it is better at penetrating walls and stuff, (but this frequency is more crowded). 2) Buy a really good WiFi card with antennas, then use extension cables on the antennas to get them out of the clutter at the back of the PC. 3) Try a WiFi Range Extender. This will essentially re-transmit the router's existing WiFi SSIDs from a point closer to your pc. Choose a dual band one. 4) Try powerline network gear. You buy a pair of modules that plug into power points and they talk to each other over the ac power cabling. Plug one into a powerpoint near the router and the other near your pc. Then connect with Cat5e patch leads. Should be plug and play. The best option depends on your individual circumstances; no magic bullet, unfortunately. One last thing, the safety issue with doing your own wall/ceiling cabling is real. Life and death stuff. Don't do it without the training and qualifications.

HikingMike 3 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

Ok, good to know and understood. So you can have a AC wifi which should be the fastest. But you never know. 2.4GHz is a lower frequency/longer wavelength so it can go through walls better.

I haven't checked any reviews really but I would give TP-Link a try again - the AC1900 and AC1300 look like they would be good. https://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/cat-5519_Archer-T9E.html

sukitrebek 1 point 17 days ago

Any downside to going with micro-ATX vs. full size?

How quiet can I expect this build to be? If quietness is a concern for me, is there anything drastic I would need to change, or would it be easy enough to replace fans with water cooling, for example?

TsarMaxim 2 points 17 days ago
  1. No (unless you need a bigger motherboard with more expansion slots).
  2. I don't care that much about silence so you might not want my advice but it should be pretty quiet. Sound-blocking headphones will be helpful here as fan noise is consistent so it's easy to filter out.
sukitrebek 1 point 17 days ago

Thanks!

HikingMike 3 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

I agree with Tsar. Although microATX can cost a little more sometimes. Air cooling nowadays is plenty quiet as long as you have a half-decent CPU cooler, good GPU cooling setup, a decent airy case, and don't have any annoying fans. This looks good to me, and I do care a lot about silence. It's way easier than it used to be.

Ch0riZoh 1 point 17 days ago

Would this be able to run Overwatch?

Valdemar04 1 point 16 days ago

Yes

Ash_Gamez 1 point 10 days ago

Definitely. It can run most AAA games and is VR ready.

Lron24 1 point 16 days ago

Completing first build.

Just curious to the main difference/advantage between mini and full size ATX?

Thanks,

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 16 days ago

Generally speaking the biggest difference is number of slots and ports. ATX will simply have more of them than ITX - USB, PCI/e, SATA, and DIMM slots.

Lron24 1 point 16 days ago

Thank you!

tmb1979 2 points 13 days ago

Manirelli is quite right. Also, bigger boards allow for more comprehensive and stronger Voltage Regulation components (voltage regulation modules or VRMs) and accompanying heatsinks to sit on those, to disperse the heat they have to handle, therefore giving you greater headroom on unlocked chipsets (unrestricted hardware) to increase the performance of your CPU. With matx boards you will sometimes find that the thermal solution is a little weak, meaning if you put a chip with considerable overclocking potential into one, it may struggle to reach higher frequencies because it can’t take the extra heat from the voltage you need to put through it. MSI appear to have an advantage currently because of their matx board thermal solutions, which buildzoid has highlighted in YouTube videos on the “Gamers Nexus” channel.

Valdemar04 1 point 16 days ago

Is it possible to get a cheaper video card? That will still fit into the case. And if yes then which one?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 16 days ago

Sure, check out RX 570s

Valdemar04 1 point 16 days ago

What is the difference from "RX 580 ARMOR MK2 8G OC" and "RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC" is the MK2 even better? I cannot find any differences

jrjoshramsey 1 point 16 days ago

Is drevo a trustworthy company? there ssd is much cheaper than any other mainstream one.

Valdemar04 1 point 16 days ago

Try to look on "Trustpilot"

black-armor 1 point 16 days ago

Going to be my first PC build, plan to build it with M2 2280 and AMD RX 580 instead...only planning to play battlefield 4 & 5 on this..is Intel Ethernet faster than the one on this? I just need my PC to be really good with internet speed? Lastly, once the build is complete what BIOS settings do I have to update on the first boot?

mooch91 1 point 16 days ago

It will be about 10 years since I completed a build, I'm doing this one for my son for the holiday. He insists he needs an Intel, as he believes it's needed for some games (or maybe it's a status thing among friends). Prices on the Intel i5 8400/8500 are spiking a little, and availability seems limited. AMD is at a more attractive price point. Will I be giving up anything going with the AMD?

ssamm95 1 point 14 days ago

AMD's performance at this price point is hard to beat.

HikingMike 3 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

I would say to check what CPUs and GPUs his friends have. Then you can compare some benchmarks with what your setup would be. Then run a benchmark on the system once it is built (probably 3DMark). Your son can mention his 3DMark score when he shows off his new system. His friends will then probably run it on theirs... and bragging rights, LOL. Intel snobbery easily defeated.

JessyMan 1 point 15 days ago

This is very similar to the build I just bought. Got MSI Armour OC RX580 8GB w/ R5 2600, 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3200, MSI B450 Pro-VDH, Samsung EVO 970, and EVGA 550W B3. Adding a 1 or 2 TB HDD later.

Loggylizar 1 point 15 days ago

I’m interested in Rust, ARK, SCUM, and recording/streaming/editing would this computer be able to do it all and is it easy for my first build

HikingMike 3 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

Yes. FYI, for recording/streaming/editing, more CPU cores the better. So choosing AMD here over Intel is a good choice. And you'd also have the option of the 8-core over this 6-core for more money. But this will be great. As for easy building, just do a minimal amount of research on building computers. It doesn't take much to get into.

zachirl 1 point 15 days ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/qKV323/can-you-help-me-please Can someone please check this out? I am being cost conscious and need help trimming off some unnecessary cost. (Will be using it for Gaming)

ssamm95 1 point 14 days ago

To start, if you're using an SSD for the operating system and 2TB hard drive for game storage, you could go with a smaller SSD. 120 GB would be fine and save you about $30.

In terms of the operating system, if you look around you can find more creative ways (hint, hint) to get this.

Also, I don't think the network adapter is necessary in your case, as the motherboard you have chosen should be fine, save yourself $30.

I would say, generally, spend the money on and have quality core components (CPU, motherboard, memory, storage, video card, and power supply) but go with the cheaper more cost-effective options for all other accessories. Looking at this build, you should be able to cut a few hundred dollars this way.

ShadowCloudz 1 point 15 days ago

Would the mini tower allow for upgrades in the future?

HikingMike 3 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

Name an upgrade.

saeng_yoon 1 point 15 days ago

Would I need a wifi card if I don't want to use ethernet? If so, where would I install one?

Terrybyte 1 point 1 day ago

Yes, you would need to add a wifi card because the motherboard does not have one. The wifi card would plug into the PCI-Express x1 slot (short black slot below where you plug in your graphics card). May I suggest the PCE-AC55BT. It uses 802.11ac (fastest commercial wireless standard) and adds bluetooth capability to your computer for bluetooth keyboards or bluetooth earbuds.

cj_m11 1 point 14 days ago

are there any worth-while graphics/video cards that are 130 or under and also for them is 1030-1050 good?

R1singH0rizon 1 point 14 days ago

Does this support wireless wifi connection?

Shido8 1 point 14 days ago

the fact that most 580s 8gb version are at a range 199$ makes it a better deal with three great games

RawrCantBuild 1 point 13 days ago

is there a spare pci-e slot for wifi?

MR_XXD 1 point 13 days ago

Thats a nice 1

Pingaling123 1 point 11 days ago

Gonna start a build to play planet coaster, never built a pc before. Looking for ideas, If anyone has built a pc with this game in mind could you let me know. Cheers

bigE819 1 point 11 days ago

No windows!

gullyman 1 point 11 days ago

I am new here and I thought that the pc required a sound card or wired network adapter

PrivatePengu 1 point 8 days ago

No need. The motherboard comes with both.

Mantonio 1 point 11 days ago

Apparently the Ryzen 5 2600 won't / can't utilise integrated motherboard graphics, so you'd need to install the OS and graphics card drivers onto your hard drive using a different computer (otherwise you'll just get no monitor signal).

Can anyone confirm this?

PrivatePengu 1 point 8 days ago

You should be able to simply plug the graphics card in, and it will work without any issues. Then, update your graphical driver after you've installed the OS.

Alucard127 1 point 10 days ago

am looking at this ram is it good? I have not seen many reviews on it so am not sure if its really good

PrivatePengu 1 point 8 days ago

The chips on all mainstream memory is made by one of these three manufacturers: SK Hynix, Micron and Samsung. This means that there isn't any "bad" memory per say, as companies like Corsair and G.Skill simply put their own heatsink on top of the memory. So it should be just fine.

Alucard127 1 point 8 days ago

thank you

gutofelin 1 point 10 days ago

Hi i'm new to all this and I do not know what to do? Is this pc good? Can it run Fortnite at least as 60fps high settings? Should I switch to GTX GPU? What monitors do I get? And how do I install Windows. I need an answer very quickly. Thank you.

gutofelin 1 point 10 days ago

and does it have WI-FI built in?

PrivatePengu 1 point 8 days ago

No, not by default. You can try finding a motherboard with a built in WiFi adapter, but otherwise you can purchase one from the Wireless Networking section.

PrivatePengu 1 point 8 days ago
  • Yes, it's good.

  • Yes, it can run Fortnite at 60 fps.

  • No, you don't have to switch.

  • Any monitor, but you should stick to 21-24" 1080p 60/144 hz monitors.

  • You can install Windows by using a USB stick. Follow this guide. Make sure you have a proper Windows key, and not one purchased from a key reseller.

secordjr 1 point 10 days ago

I am completely new to this whole gaming computer world. My 10 year old son wants a gaming computer for Christmas and this build looks like it would a great computer for his needs. One question I have is he really wants one that has colored lights inside the computer casing. Does this one?

ShadowCloudz 1 point 3 days ago

This does not have much RGB(colored lights) in the system, but if you spend an extra 10 - 20 dollars you can put some in.

PhantomTushi 1 point 10 days ago

Downgrade to 8gb ram and 250 ssd, thats all I need, then upgrade to a more beefier gpu/cpu.

Doncey-Doice 1 point 10 days ago

AMD

Tonnka 1 point 9 days ago

I have made a very Similar Build as this. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 With MSI 450 Gaming motherboard And the Radeon Nitro Sapphire RX580 8 GB and 2 x 8 gb 2400 Corsair Ram sticks.. And the same 550W 80 Gold power supply However when playing Battlefield 4 on Medium Graphics settings the GPU seems to power down (Loss of signal to monitors)

Is this due to the lower rated 550watt PSU???? doesn`t seem to do it on any other game so far....and only built it 3 days ago all fresh out of the box.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 9 days ago

If you aren't overvolting you should have plenty of headroom on a quality 550w PSU like the ones we have in this list.

bradyschielein 1 point 8 days ago

i play fortnite on xbox and i want a pc i can build and just blows away xbox fortnite for under 800 dollars. like i want the best long term great performing i can get.

Bettercopy232 1 point 8 days ago

This one beat even the Xbox one a long run more than double the performance if not more just for you know. This one can be used for up to 5-10 years without upgrade.

mindhack21 1 point 8 days ago

Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory

Is there a write-up or source for this? I would like to read more about this before I upgrade to Ryzen.

Great build as usual! Thanks and keep up the good work!

Bettercopy232 1 point 8 days ago

This is common knowledge. Not apply for Intel but it apply for AMD

Bettercopy232 1 point 8 days ago

Why that case? Rather use the Fractal Design Focus G (Black) on Amazon it bigger and come with 2 preinstalled fans. Check out my build:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D9zZD2

Wazowski13 1 point 8 days ago

Hey guys I basically got this build except using 2 by 8 gbs of corsair vengeance 3200 mhz ram with a Gigabyte b450m ds3h motherboard. The fans run and light up but the monitor light just flashes and nothing happens. Any help?

laexoc 1 point 6 days ago

Is the ram compatible with the motherboard? I also have an Asrock mobo with the new Ryzen 2600x and have been having a hard time looking for a decent priced 3000mhz ram to go with it :/ I checked G.Skills ram configurator and the Aegis line isn't in it so I'm just wondering if it works since it is cheaper than other sticks I have found :)

danielllllll753 1 point 6 days ago

The motherboard is sold out, is there anything else that is compatible with all the parts? thanks

Kirkpatsky 1 point 4 days ago

Yes

rikres90 1 point 6 days ago

When the owner of this guide first made the guide how much was it, im curious because i want to know how much the price went down vs time duration of how long products been up

hugograffiti 1 point 5 days ago

Hi, have never built a PC before and have bought these parts for my 14-year old son's xmas present. As he's probably going to want to build it straight away I need to make sure he has everything he needs. Is there anything else I need to buy for him to complete the build, e.g. cables or shelves for the case or anything like that? Thanks.

RoSquad7 1 point 5 days ago

Monitor, keyboard and mouse and a os key. I built this exact build and I had to run out and by these extras

hugograffiti 1 point 5 days ago

Ok great, got those anyway so should be all set. Have also ordered a toolkit which apparently comes with spare screws so that might be handy (sounds as though the screw size must be standard which makes sense).

JohnLawtonNotAliA 1 point 3 days ago

He may also want a headset so that he can keep the noise of his pc to himself talk to other people online :)

PremFTW 1 point 5 days ago

Awesome build! But why not add an AIO cooler for CPU? I have seen them go for $120 I think it will give you better performance overall for just a small increase. Still, though this is an awesome 1080p, 1440p, and even 4K (if you lower some settings) build for gaming.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

The rough budget for the modest guides is 750-800. A 120 dollar cooler has no place in that budget.

lipebrm 1 point 4 days ago

Would this run csgo well?

ShadowCloudz 1 point 3 days ago

A gtx 1050 2gb and a ryzen 3 would run csgo well. csgo is extremely easy to run and this machine would play it very smoothly.

ShadowCloudz 1 point 3 days ago

i would spend 8 extra dollars for a fully modular psu

ShadowCloudz 1 point 3 days ago

This is a great build and all, but why not spend 5-10 extra dollars on a atx mid tower instead of micro atx mini tower? You would have more space for upgradeability and still not be losing much?

Confused101 1 point 3 days ago

Is the 16 gigsof RAM needed? I’m not running anything over the top

Ansistor07 1 point 3 days ago

what about the cooler?

Forreat 1 point 3 days ago

Thanks trying to get a decent gaming pc that will run ark smooth and other sandbox games like it.

neiledmiston 1 point 2 days ago

Is there more of an advantage when you have the 8gb VRAM over the 4?

dekuXbakugo22 1 point 2 days ago

can this pay overwatch and such games

kanonhian 1 point 1 day ago

Hi guys. I am new in this world so I have a doubdt. Is the ryzen 5 2600 better than rzyen 5 2400g, for gaming purposes? When is suitable each one? Thanks in advance

Major_HiDeF 1 point 1 day ago

Hi I have never built a PC before, but how well would this run WoW? I am tired of using a 6 year old laptop on low settings with 20 FPS.

kingdeliriousss 1 point 1 day ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bQPbD2 i’m trying to build my first gaming pc and i’m not the most intelligent on gaming pcs and all the brands/prices but this is what i’ve got so far with my whole setup. if you could help guide me on changing parts or something like that, that would help out a lot. thxs!

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 21 days ago

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 16 days ago
Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor 8W - 65W
Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 14W - 14W
Intel - 545s 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card 46W - 185W
Total: 74W - 294W