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Entry Level AMD Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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Description

CPU

Our CPU of choice is the Ryzen 3 1200. This CPU is inexpensive but still packs a punch with its 4 cores and 3.4 GHz turbo frequency. The R3 1200 includes a good stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for mATX B350 chipsets, which will allow us to overclock the CPU without breaking the bank. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build.

Memory

For this build and most machines outside of the top end enthusiast realm we opted to go with 8GB of DDR4 memory. The parametric filter finds the best price on 8GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-2666, DDR4-2800, and DDR4-3000 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory. We've added the 2666 speed kit to the filter in this iteration of the guide, due to the rising prices of memory.

At the current time, using memory rated over 3000mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory.

Storage

We're using a parametric filter to select the best-priced 2TB mechanical drive. Unfortunately, with the rising cost of NAND, in addition to the rising cost of video cards due to the current mining craze, we've had to cut out the SSD in order to keep this build more budget-friendly. Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to increase capacities or add an SSD to fit yours.

GPU

Normally we would recommend the AMD RX 570 at this price point. Unfortunately, due to a recent surge in cryptocurrency mining, there is an extremely low availability of normal-priced video cards that would be appropriate at this price point. As a replacement, we suggest using the Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti. We've created a parametric filter to show you the lowest priced GTX 1050 Ti which will be powerful enough for most AAA games.

When video card stock and availability normalizes again, we will make sure to update our guides as appropriate to reflect the change in the market.

Case

All of the components are housed in the black Apevia X-QTIS MicroATX mid tower. This case is an affordable options that has front panel USB 3.0, room for full size graphics cards, and cutouts in the motherboard tray for easy cable routing. It also features 1x external 5.25" bay, and plenty of bays that will fit 3.5" and 2.5" drives.

PSU

For the PSU, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular and modular units, which are all rated for good power efficiency and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Intel Version

Here is the Intel version of our Entry Level Gaming Guide.

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Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 225W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $134.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $134.99 Amazon Canada Buy
Motherboard
From parametric filter
  • Socket / CPU: AM4
  • Form Factor: Micro ATX
  • Chipset: AMD B350
$99.50 -$25.00 $74.50 Vuugo Buy
$25.00 mail-in rebate
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-2400, DDR4-2666, DDR4-2800, DDR4-3000
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
$94.99 $94.99 PC-Canada Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 2TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
$71.00 FREE $71.00 Mike's Computer Shop Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
$224.99 $224.99 Memory Express Buy
Case $90.46 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $90.46 Amazon Canada Buy
Power Supply $63.99 $63.99 PC-Canada Buy
Base Total: $779.92
Mail-in Rebates: -$25.00
Total: $754.92
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

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tk1931 20 points 1 month ago

So our son wants to build this pc. This is what he asked for Christmas and he had received the components. Funny thing, I have never built a PC soooo....... is there a “blueprint” or “guide” on how to assemble this step by step? Or do we just search for steps on how to build a PC??

A mom who has taken a big bite!

J_Vilander 8 points 1 month ago

Search up on Youtube for similar system build tutorials, there are many good ones

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 7 points 1 month ago

If you haven't built it allready, look it up on youtube. It is fairly simple, you need to start by installing the CPU, RAM, and CPU cooler onto the motherboard, making sure the cable is plugged into "CPU_FAN". You then need to install the motherboard into the case. Install the Power supply, and hook up the cables for CPU power, Motherboard power, and SATA power cable. Install the Hard Disk Drive in the 3.25" Drive bay, and connect it to the SATA power. Included in your motherboard box should be a SATA data cable, and connect that to your Motherboard. Then, connect the cables inside of your case to the apropriate place on the motherboard, the motherboard manual will tell you where. Install the Graphics card by removing 2 expansion slots on the rear of the case, and click the bottom into you motherboard. Make sure every fan inside your case is connected to a SYS_FAN connector on the motherboard. Again, watch youtube and, you will bounce into problems. Good luck!

BrainPower 1 Build 3 points 1 month ago

Best mom ever! Hope you didn't forget the thermal paste... pea size amount before you set the cooler on top of the processor!

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 5 points 1 month ago

AMD Stock cooler comes with thermal paste pre applied

BrainPower 1 Build 0 points 1 month ago

Good to know. I have not yet purchased Ryzen new in box.

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 4 points 1 month ago

So does intel’s (less powerful) stock coolers. Aftermarket coolers do not.

realitydroid 2 Builds 3 points 1 month ago

Don't let the task seem too daunting. It's actually quite easy to do. Might take a little time your first time around, but you'll do fine with a small bit of patience. Here is a video from BitWit on YouTUBE showing how to build one step by step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

A tip about cable management: it's nice and all to have everything nice and tidy, but isn't 100% necessary. If this is something that winds up frustrating you, then focus in primarily keeping cables away from fans, and out of any space in which they could get pinched. Zip ties are an awesome way to bunch a few together so that they aren't impeding airflow too much. In the end, so long as cables aren't in the way of fans or causing problems with airflow, it isn't all that important outside of aesthetics.

HyperDriveShark 1 point 13 days ago

you don't really need a guide for this as many of the parts are labeled together and it's very obvious where the parts should slot together but if you want some help just go on youtube and search for some tutorials. I would recommend https://www.youtube.com/user/LinusTechTips or https://www.youtube.com/user/AwesomeSauceNews if you try the second link first they have a full 50-minute video explaining every detail and step on by one

jackhess 0 points 1 month ago

There are a ton of videos on youtube on how to build a pc. There is no one blueprint because there are many variations in parts, so each combination will be constructed slightly differently.

Quintonb92 0 points 1 month ago

Just look on youtube.

Jyrone 0 points 1 month ago

Imagine it as legos, there are plenty of guides and instructions online. I suggest watching Jayz2cents on YouTube, he is reliable and has plenty of build guides on how to build a PC.

ImightbeaPineapple 0 points 27 days ago

There are plenty of sources on youtube which show you how to build a pc step by step, I reccemend tutorials from Techsource, randomfrankp (Who recently made a tutorial on a ryzen build). Good luck on your son's build!

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HeyTherePCParts 3 points 1 month ago

Will that RAM work with an ASROCK AB350 Pro4 even though it doesn't have it on the compatibility list?

ryan2949 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

The compatibility list just shows ram the manufacturer has tested. If it's not on there, it just means they haven't tried it yet. When I spoke to Asrock about some Ballistix ram on a B250 and X370 boards I have that wasn't on either compatibility list, they basically said "give it a shot" and that it should work, but hasn't been tested.

illegaloperation -5 points 1 month ago

probably not

JoshGer 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

Why?

Shotofdoom67 3 points 1 month ago

I’m new to pc building and I’m switching over from console to PC (I am not abandoning console). I’m looking for a good PC to build and I was looking at the modest gaming PC but due to the cryptocurrency mining surge the price went above my budget. So I’m looking at this AMD entry level build. I was wondering if this would run games like: Rainbow 6 siege, Cs:Go, overwatch, PUBG and Fortnite. I searched up some benchmarks but I’d like some confirmation. Also, it’ll be a big help if you could let me know the FPS/settings it could run at. (Hoping atleast 60 FPS because that’s what I’m used to on PS4)

WallabeAttack 1 point 1 month ago

CS:GO and Overwatch easily Ultra 60+ fps (CS:GO will run at around 400fps), Fortnite will work just fine but it will struggle to keep above 60fps at times if it has to much trouble turn 1 setting down it high, PUBG will Struggle but it will run it just fine just might need to lower a few settings to med-high. Rainbow, i have not tested it my friend has a 1050ti and he hasn't complained so it will work fine i think its less power hungry than fortnite so it will run fine at ultra, Hope this helped!

Shotofdoom67 1 point 29 days ago

Thanks! It did help a lot

WallabeAttack 1 point 29 days ago

No Problem!

acedirt234 1 point 1 month ago

The 1050 ti will run most of those maxed out just fine. Games that are new, poorly optimized, or graphically demanding (like pubg) can be done at med-low at 60fps.

Personally, I would wait out the crypto and buy the gtx 1030 ($75 USD), That will run most of the lower end games just fine (games like overwatch, fortnite, even pubg at 720p). But if you need a card that will get 1080p 60fps at least to med graphics with newer games, then this build will suit you.

Shotofdoom67 1 point 29 days ago

Thank you for the help

eloydgutierrez 1 point 6 days ago

My friend has a 1050ti and CSGO, Fortnite, and Rainbow 6 siege run 1080p at 60 easily. We never played Overwatch but I would assume it will run 1080p over 60 easily since the recommend graphics card is a gtx 660(which is old). For PUBG we both have the same settings even thou I have a gtx 1070. Anti-Aliasing = very low Post-Processing =very low Shadows = very low or low (depends if low makes a difference for you) Texture = Ultra Effects = very low Foliage = very low View Distance = Ultra With these settings the game will look better then with settings on high and you will be able to see people from far away much easier and game will run 1080p at 60. My friend has never complained of frame dips and he comes from PS4. Another thing is to use Nvidia freestyle as it will make the game look great here is a web page of some freestyle filters: https://gamingph.com/2018/02/best-nvidia-freestyle-settings-for-pubg-playerunknowns-battlegrounds/

TheQuackSavior 2 points 2 months ago

Glad to see that you used a B350 motherboard.

tshearer01 1 point 2 months ago

Are the Ryzen CPU for both PC and laptop?

antiscamhotline 2 points 2 months ago

No, Ryzen is a desktop processor lineup as of 12/22/17

KaoGao 3 points 1 month ago

Don't forget about Ryzen Mobile, it'll be hitting the market soon since review samples have been getting sent out. As of 12/23/2017, there is no consumer Ryzen laptops available.

spartanvi 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

There is at least one. The HP Envy x360 has a Ryzen 5 APU with integrated Vega graphics. It's not a gaming laptop, but it has Ryzen mobile tech and has been available for a couple weeks now.

Link: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-x360-2-in-1-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-hp-finish-in-dark-ash-silver/6124570.p?skuId=6124570

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

I've seen one case where there was a full desktop Ryzen CPU in a laptop, although I don't know what product it was in and I'm sure it was expensive.

Jyrone 1 point 1 month ago

There are some Ryzen mobile laptops out as of right now. I would suggest buying one if you don't ant to build a desktop.

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Jyrone 1 point 29 days ago

That's interesting, it is nice to see Ryzen getting an integrated GPU.

albertdo 1 point 2 months ago

how much fps should I expect and what monitor would work with this?

tragiktimes101 2 points 1 month ago

It can definitely do 6o fps in all decently optimized games.

Zhnky 1 point 1 month ago

Depends on the games you play to be honest, and any 1080p monitor should work :)

Go on youtube and search "Ryzen 3 1200 1050Ti (Game)"

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

A 1080p, low response time, 60 hz monitor

cotroneo 0 points 1 month ago

Virtually every game on medium will give you a CONSTANT 60FPS, without any dips. Most games on high should give you 60FPS average, but will without a doubt have some dips to the high 40's, low 50's. Games like Overwatch, CS:GO, Rocket League, and other 'E-Sport' titles will bring you well above 60fps on Ultra settings. PUBG isn't the most optimized game, so frame rates in the 40's and 50's at medium isn't uncommon.

People that say things will run at 60fps almost always discount real world tests, and only judge by averages. For me to say a game runs at 60FPS, it needs to have averages above 60, and 1% lows above 60.

Those 1% lows are often caused by things like explosions/particles, and physics, which is hard to measure since it depends on what you're doing in the game. <- This is the biggest flaw with most benchmarks since even in-game benchmarks will only feature a few explosions or whatever.

Pay attention to 1% lows.

Liam111 1 point 1 month ago

Do I need thermal paste for this build?

acedirt234 1 point 1 month ago

Ryzen 3 1200 comes with stock cooler with paste already applied.

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Only if you get a 3rd party cooler without thermal paste.

SpoinkyBoi 1 point 1 month ago

So I'm new to PC gaming, and i just wanted to know how well gaming will be with this PC build.

acedirt234 1 point 1 month ago

Games before 2014 can probably go to highest settings for 1080p, 60fps. More recent games may average 30-40 fps on highest, and 60 fps on medium settings.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah.. If you turn down to High/medium settings you can play basically all game on 60 fps. The video card is a little beast

TheCatzilla -1 points 1 month ago

more like medium setting 55-60 fps 1080p because it is low end

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 3 points 1 month ago

trust me.. on most games you will get 60 fps

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

I get 55+ fps on high settings, 45+ on high+ultra settings.

TheCatzilla -1 points 1 month ago

If you over clock it will do that

aeong 1 point 1 month ago

I'd most likely use this PC to make mods for Fallout 4. How well does F4 run on this machine? If it runs poorly how well would that graphics downscale mod speed it up?

DivineChariot 1 point 1 month ago

is there any major difference between this amd entry build and your other intel entry build?

Potatogamer1230 2 points 1 month ago

I would go with AMD cpus for now until the Intel security breach is "fixed"

Jyrone 2 points 1 month ago

Honestly, I would go AMD, AMD is a more pro-consumer company and they haven't been trying to cover up a security breach that is 10 years old.

TheCatzilla 1 point 1 month ago

not much

TheCatzilla 1 point 1 month ago

but i prefer amd

Adiboo814 1 point 1 month ago

What about Operating System? Is that separate and not included in this price?

JoshGer 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

A tip: You can install and use Windows for free without a license key. The only thing you have to deal with is a watermark and limited customization, although you can still change your background through the photos app, and you can change personalization by logging into a Microsoft account on a registered copy, log into the unregistered copy, and select the option that lets you bring the customized parts of the registered copy onto the unregistered copy. With these things done, the only thing you have to worry about is an "Activate Windows" watermark and not being able to change the fitting options of your desktop background. Not worth $90 is my eyes :)

PCNoob0419 1 point 1 month ago

Correct. Windows 10 OEM is like $90 and Retail version is $120 last I checked.

TheCatzilla 1 point 1 month ago

If you already have a windows os you can just copy that os on to this build

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

As long as you delete the original so uou only have 1.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 28 days ago

The sale of those keys violate Microsoft ToS, and the keys may be unexpectedly disabled. Recommending, suggesting, advising, encouraging, hinting, or in any way implying these keys as a solution or option is not allowed on this site.

Jyrone 1 point 27 days ago

Ok, I won't mention them again.

tragiktimes101 1 point 9 days ago

Sorry to hijack this subthread, but I have a question and believe I was directed here to propose/ask it. I was wondering if on the next iteration of budget builds if you could use a Cougar MX330 case? I ask because it has been going for between $25-40, has a mesh front (which appears would allow for good airflow), and seems to be a decent build quality given the price.

I have recently been recommending it quite a bit given the apparent features given its budget price. So, I figured it would be nice to see in a build guide where it will be seen by more people and potentially taken advantage of more.

Again, sorry to hijack this. :)

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 9 days ago

Just so you know, you can just reply to the guide itself and I'll see it all the same.

I'll look into the case some more, along with its coverage, but it looks promising! I appreciate the suggestion.

tragiktimes101 1 point 9 days ago

Sorry about commenting in the incorrect place!

And, that's awesome. Appreciate you looking into it. I have to admit, I'm somewhat giddy to get my hands on one of these cases myself. I hadn't even heard of Cougar before this. lol

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah... 50% of the time that is called piracy.

Taycho3Fires 1 point 1 month ago

Why is the power supply so big?

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Buying a better PSU will increase the usefulness of it. If you get a PSU that only barely fits your current needs, and you want to upgrade your parts, you will need to buy a new PSU, instead of just using the one you have. Also, if you overclock your parts, you'll need to have room for that.

BlueBones 1 point 27 days ago

You're right, 400W would be sufficient as well, i guess it's cause the 450W is cheeaper atm.

The efficiency of a PSU drops dramatically at both ends. You want to make sure to run at good efficiency or your electricity bill hit you hard.

Anyway, i'd recommend to get a 400-500W 80+ GOLD PSU. As mentioned earlier, the additional $15 for better efficiency will pay you back yearly on your bills.

Random2771 1 point 1 month ago

So I'm planning on building my first ever PC and was considering this one. Being a complete newbie to building PC's i was wondering is this a good first buy for someone on a budget and will i be getting my money's worth for this PC and is it good for running video games.

acedirt234 1 point 1 month ago

In terms of money's worth, I believe the modest AMD build provides a bigger bang for your buck. But if you have a very limiting budget, this build should work fine. This build should run most games at 1080p, 60fps, at high settings, and the demanding games at 1080p, 60fps, at low-med settings.

Jyrone 1 point 1 month ago

Depends on how big your budget is, if this barely fits in your price range, then yes, buy this one. If you could save up more for a more powerful pc then do that. This PC would average 45-60+ FPS on most games at medium/high settings, but I would suggest saving up to around $1000-1600 and build something a lot more powerful.

RazeScythe 1 point 19 days ago

Its called "Entry" for a reason :T

Fr33Th1nk3r 4 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Eh You can opt for a 1TB drive and opt for a better CPU but overall a good build considering the ridiculous DIY market right now. Thanks crypto miners for ruining our hobby.

JoshGer 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

Eh, just buy a Nvidia card. They haven't really been affected by miners. I bought my GTX 1050 ti for $123.

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Yes they have. My $150 1050 Ti is $240 now, instead of $150.

WallabeAttack 1 point 28 days ago

this was 2 weeks ago just before the craze

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 18 days ago

My lord... The $123 1050 Ti is now $200. I had no idea they were buying Nvidia cards now.

RazeScythe 1 point 19 days ago

LOL, What!?! Dude I saw the spike in GTX 1050ti price around late Nov! A 1050ti was somewhere from $130-$180 max, now those the lowest price for one is around $150 and some are $275!

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 18 days ago

Bought mine from B&H at around the 22nd of December. I had no idea miners were buying Nvidia cards now.

RazeScythe 1 point 7 days ago

These damn miners, hopefully, once the crypto bubble bursts there will be a high stock of these high-performance cards for cheap, which will be very good for us, a 1080ti was around $650-$700 and maybe some $800 before the craze, now these prices will be lowered after the craze stops maybe $500-$600 max for 1080ti

jagerdubz420 1 point 1 month ago

witch game y can run whit this pc ?

in looking for my firts pc

acedirt234 3 points 1 month ago

This build should run most games at 1080p, 60fps, at high settings, and the demanding games at 1080p, 60fps, at low-med settings.

(this will run pubg)

BlueBones 1 point 27 days ago

This build runs any current game at 1080p with low settings. In a year the latest, no AAA will run smoothly.

Robin_Bobin 1 point 1 month ago

I was curious is this a good build for an entry level kind of person with a pretty low budget

CaptKip 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, this is what it is made for. If you don't want to overclock or want to go a little bit cheaper you can either swap the mob out for a cheaper A250 or use the Intel version of this build respectively.

Over9000GHz 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Did you mean an A320?

CaptKip 1 point 29 days ago

Yeah lol I meant to go back and edit that once I remembered the number but it looked like I never did. Sorry about that

Jyrone 0 points 1 month ago

I think he did...

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

You can cut the price down by switching to a 1TB hard drive, switch to a non-modular PSU, and, if you really must, get an A320 board like CaptKip suggested. I highly recommend you get a B350 board so you can overclock, but if you can't afford it, don't worry.

S13Hitman 1 point 1 month ago

I decided on using this build guide with some minor tweak, this is my first build so please correct me if I screw anything up. My main uses will be light gaming and some Microsoft office work. I figured this build could handle regular applications versus just gaming alone, again, please correct me if I'm wrong to think that.

I like the Fractal Focus G ATX case in blue. This also has an optical drive slot which I'm adding for my traditionalist ways. My kids have CD's to use for certain games or activities. And I can order the windows 10 disc through work with a small discount.

Please let me know if I should make any changes since this is computer will be my main home computer but that I can upgrade later on if needed. This is my first build...

JoshGer 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

If a PC can handle games, it can certainly handle regular applications :) This build can handle most games at 1080p, high settings, at 55+ FPS. Some games might need you to lower the settings a little bit. If you need to lower costs a bit:

  • Get a 1TB HDD instead of a 2TB, especially if you are not installing 10 AAA games.

  • If you never plan on overclocking your CPU, you could get a cheaper A320 motherboard.

  • Get a non-modular PSU.

CaptKip 1 point 1 month ago

Well if you want to upgrade later you could opt for a cheaper 1x8 gig stick of ram and them get another 1x8 stick if you need it later

FreezeFlame64 1 point 1 month ago

Sorry my first purchase of computer parts on this site. Why is there no monitor or keyboard listed here? Do I have to buy it separate?

Also, feeling stupid... this is a desktop right? I don't understand how much of this works as I'm getting help building it.

CaptKip 1 point 1 month ago

If you read the fine print on their guides, they say they don't include operating systems, keyboards, mice, monitors, etc. this is just the basic computer

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Things like monitors, keyboards, and mice are highly personal objects that you should research yourself. YOU will be the one using these all the time. Do you want a cheap membrane keyboard or a more expensive mechanical one? Do you need dedicated macro keys? etc. Monitors come at SO many price points, sizes, and resolutions, that it would be hard to guess what anybody would like. It's better if the person buying these parts researches them. Yes, it's a desktop, it's incredibly hard to build a laptop. If you'd look at the case, you'd see it's a desktop.

Subset_Arctic 1 point 1 month ago

is this build compatable with VR gaming too?

me3614 1 point 1 month ago

Would this be capable of streaming to twitch. I won't be gaming on it just using it for the stream. I play on PS4 and have been using that to stream to twitch and a laptop to keep the chat function open and OBS to let em know when i get follows but the laptop isn't powerful enough to stream from. I'm hoping this build would be capable of streaming at 720p with my elgato hd60. Being honest I am on a budget and this is well in my price range.

JoshGer 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

I'm not a streamer, but looking online this seems like an okay system to stream your gameplay.

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audiopusher 1 point 1 month ago

EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB SSC GAMING Video Card would this video card be about the same when playing games?

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Lew_Zealand 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks for this guide! I used it as a base for building my first PC (for my son's gaming), getting the listed MoBo, CPU and PS.

I already had a Crucial 750GB SSD and an MSi GTX 1060 6GB which was previously installed in an Akitio Node hooked to a NUC7i7. The case wasn't available at the listed price (got a CoolerMaster N700 instead), and I got 8GB G.Skill 2800MHz CL15 (only $18 more) as AMD CPUs respond well to RAM speed improvements.

It's been working great for over a week though the CPU only overclocks to 3500MHz stably, lower than many people have mentioned online. Doesn't matter though as he's using a free NOS 19" 1440x900 monitor and even 2017 games like Battlefront II and Ark top 140FPS on Ultra or Epic Gfx settings. This setup should do easily for a 1080p or 1440p monitor upgrade sometime in the future, seeing as I tested a few games on our 4K TV and it does pretty well with 50FPS on high settings.

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Kenjisama710 1 point 1 month ago

This will be my first PC build unfortunately I need WiFi connectivity. What should I do in terms of the motherboard? Thanks ahead of time.

acedirt234 2 points 1 month ago

one option is you can do is buy a USB wi-fi adapter (the ones with the antenna), They cost 10-15 USD and will get the job done.

alkaseltzerspadt 1 point 1 month ago

Could I add a 1TB SSHD that's 2.5" without running into issues? Thanks for any help.

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 29 days ago

You could but I would recommend just adding an SSD, you will get a lot more performance out of it.

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Pwainwright 1 point 1 month ago

Well......the 1050ti's price is going up astronomically as well. 180 on amazon, 330+ at microcenter. I'm relieved i got mine at 150 but now none of my friends are interested in building a rig anymore. Real bummer.

BlueBones 1 point 28 days ago

Dear PPP team,

I'm sorry for these critics, but imho it's very important to know for anyone considering this build. 1st noone has fun with a PC build without SSD for years already. No matter if Gaming or Surfing. I know budget is tight, but honestly, i couldn't ever recommend a PC build without SSD. And 2nd i still can't get how you can recommend taking a 80+ Bronze PSU. Same situation, budget is tight i know, but how about the supply costs over time? The 15 bucks in addition for 80+ Gold pay you back in a year the latest. And i haven't even started to talk about "going green" at all. OFC i do agree - with 500 bucks - there is no way to go but Ryzen 3 1200 + GTX 1050 TI but to be crystal clear: You'll get into big trouble trying to play some AAA in a year or two the latest.

Enjoy your day ;)

StillOnLs 1 point 22 days ago

Hi,

I was considering this exact build till I read your comment. I am an absolute noob, and this will be my first build.

What changes do you recommend making to this build without it blowing out the budget?

Thanks!

tragiktimes101 1 point 22 days ago

I tell you what, fill this in, and I'll tailor a build to you:

  • Budget:
  • Location:
  • Use (gaming, rendering, etc):
  • Peripherals required (monitor, keyboard/mouse, etc):
  • Operating System required:
StillOnLs 1 point 22 days ago

Budget: AUD$1,200 (including peripherals)

Location: Australia, Melbourne.

Use (gaming, rendering, etc): Light gaming (CS:GO, Dota), general work.

Peripherals required (monitor, keyboard/mouse, etc): Monitor and keyboard.

Operating System required: Win 10

tragiktimes101 1 point 21 days ago

So, this exceeds that budget by about ~$100, but it does include the monitor, keyboard, and the operating system. Now, the price could likely be reduced by not going with a widescreen monitor. But, I know that Dota can benefit from this, as can many games.

If it's something that isn't a large draw for you, you can also do very well by going with one standard monitor and pairing it with another down the road. Or, you could opt to wait on the SSD and upgrade to either the 1500X or the 1600 for your CPU. Really, it's up to you on what you would prefer to have now, and what you would prefer to upgarde later.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $139.00 @ Umart
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.00 @ IJK
Memory Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $129.00 @ Umart
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $113.99 @ Mwave Australia
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Windforce OC Video Card $249.00 @ Shopping Express
Case Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $49.01 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $75.00 @ Shopping Express
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit $145.00 @ Shopping Express
Monitor LG - 25UM58-P 25.0" 2560x1080 60Hz Monitor $219.00 @ Mwave Australia
Keyboard Thermaltake - CHALLENGER PRIME Wired Gaming Keyboard $38.50 @ Newegg Australia
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1315.50
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-31 23:39 AEDT+1100
BlueBones 1 point 20 days ago

Hi,

I'd recommend to consider this list as well: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/pNbMf8

The main differences are: - Most important, you want an SSD as it speeds up any loading process from your drive (System Start, Opening Programs or even browser tabs, loading levels, ... ) it simply boosts the entire system. It's reasonably priced in the meanwhile as well. - Don't spend too much on the housing if you're really tight in budget. It's not the most important part of your computer. You can get something reasonable for ~35. - I don't trust lower priced ASRock boards as the quality is rather variant, but probably that's just because of my personal bad experiences. I'd recommend to consider the MSI B350m Pro-VDH. - Don't buy a 80+ Bronze PSU, get at least a Silver if not a Gold as they definitely pay you back in time. As you might even take the PSU to your next build in a couple of yours, they'll pay you back constantly.

Matsozetex 1 Build 1 point 20 days ago

Issue is.... That list has the wrong currency

tragiktimes101 1 point 22 days ago

1st noone has fun with a PC build without SSD for years already.

Who talks like this?

The 15 bucks in addition for 80+ Gold pay you back in a year the latest

No, it definitely wouldn't. The difference would be pennies per year at the most. Perhaps in 15 years you might make back that difference, maybe.

You'll get into big trouble trying to play some AAA in a year or two the latest.

You get premonitions?

BlueBones 1 point 20 days ago

Dear tragiktimes101,

First things first: In a 115V system, 80+ Bronze means an efficiency of max. 85% while 80+ Gold converts to an efficiency of max. 90%. Let's continue with maximum efficiencies from here on as that favours your statement (but keep in mind, real physics are cruel especially when talking about differences in efficiency on paper and irl).

Please let me help you out with some basic math: Your components add up to 225W. Let's assume you're an energy saver, turning your system off whenever you're not using it, and your system is running 8h a day and 5d a week adding up to 52x5x8x225 Wh a year. That's 468 kWh. Now let's assume you don't give a ... and your system is running 24/7, which adds up to 52x7x24x225 Wh a year. That's 1966 kWh.

So far, we considered what your components are draining from the PSU. Now, there's efficiency, or in other words: the energy your PSU is wasting by producing heat.

The Energy an "energy saver" is saving a year by using 80+ Gold instead of Bronze is 468 kWh / 0.85 - 468 kWh / 0.9 = 31 kWh, while the energy a "i don't give a ... guy" is saving a year adds up to 1966 kWh / 0.85 - 1966 kWh / 0.9 = 129 kWh.

Now, as we got the numbers, let's talk about money: The average price of 1 kWh is about $0.15 in the US while it is around $0.3 in Europe. 31x0.15 =~ 5 and 129x0.3 =~ 39

Result: By using a 80+ Gold PSU instead of 80+ Bronze you're saving $5 to $40 per YEAR depending on power on time and regional electricity price. Please keep in mind that calculations are based on conservative efficiency assumptions as mentioned in the very beginning.

And I haven't even started to talk about "going green" at all.

Cheers, BB

@tragiktimes101 could you please explain how your estimations lead to "pennies per year"?

tragiktimes101 2 points 20 days ago

Well, one gaping hole I see in your logic is you are assuming that it is pulling full load at all times that it is in use, which it most likely would not. But, for the sake of being very liberal with our estimates, we will keep this figure as the "average."

Another issue in your logic is your assumption that the average cost of electricity in the US is $.15 / kWh. It is not. It was $.12 / kWh on average in the US residential sector (less if you include the industrial sector, which I am not).

Now, based on my calculations I was over zealous in my wording, but not in the spirit of my point. Under full loads you may perhaps save a bit more than $1.50 per month. But, I should remind you, that these are under completely unrealistic conditions. The PC would likely pull <75-100w during most of that 8h / day session. This could reduce the figure by as much a 75%, turning a yearly savings of $21 into $5 (which is the low end of your estimate).

The 15 bucks in addition for 80+ Gold pay you back in a year the latest.

This is extremely unlikely given a less synthetic real world situation where they won't be under full load 8h / 365 days. You also don't take account the variances of efficiency on these power supplies at different loads.

dz6900 1 point 28 days ago

Could an optical drive be added in? I want to keep things simple and just install windows by disk; if not, where do i get a flash drive with windows 7 pre-installed?

acedirt234 1 point 27 days ago

If you are going for an optical drive, Make sure your PC case has an external bay for your optical drive.

The suggested case on this guild does have one external bay, but it may be changed down the line. make sure it says it has the external bay before you buy it.

tragiktimes101 1 point 22 days ago

You can either use an external drive. Or, just use any standard USB flash drive. You download the OS from Microsoft and use your preferred software to create a bootable flash drive. Then, use the USB during bootup (be sure the PC is set to boot from USB and that it is before the HDD in the boot priority order). Follow the prompts, and that's all there is to it.

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manirelli staff 8 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

Use of Windows must be done with a legitimate product key.

Per Microsoft:

You are authorized to use this software only if you are properly licensed and the software has been properly activated with a genuine product key or by other authorized method.

For more information please see: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

rilfy 1 point 26 days ago

Can this edit videos in premier pro?

Grilly 1 point 22 days ago

yes

tragiktimes101 1 point 22 days ago

Yes, but Premier Pro prefers high clockspeeds rather than core count. So an 8350K may be a better way to go, but the motherboard that would be required would also be more expensive. And you would need to add a CPU cooler. You are likely looking at about another ~$130 for that upgrade.

Ksnewbie88 1 point 26 days ago

Would this be a decent build for video and photo editing?

Grilly 1 point 22 days ago

no

tragiktimes101 1 point 22 days ago

If it was very light video/photo editing it would work. It definitely wouldn't be ideal for any serious work, though. I recommend a 1500X or a 1600 for photo/video editing.

Junketsu0729 1 point 22 days ago

How would this build handle streaming games like Overwatch or League of Legends?

tragiktimes101 1 point 22 days ago

It definitely would not be ideal for streaming due to its relatively low core/thread count. I would recommend upping it to at the very least a 1500X or more ideally a 1600. This would help it with streaming, but some settings would still have to be adjusted for optimal performance.

Junketsu0729 1 point 22 days ago

I was going to up it to a Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-core. Would that work?

tragiktimes101 1 point 22 days ago

A 1600 should do quite well at this.

an_ocelot 1 point 20 days ago

Hello, how many frames a second could this play CSGO at 1024x768 with medium settings? I am thinking of building a gaming pc mainly for playing Counter-Strike and pairing it with a 144hz monitor or higher. Thank you.

piratecats 1 point 19 days ago

I'm building the intel one only cause its cheaper but I have an old HIS - Radeon RX 470 4GB IceQ X2 Turbo Video Card and a Apevia - 800W power supply. Would it run well with the CPU or would it fall short?, (instead of getting the 1050ti, corsair power supply) also which one would do a better performance between these 2 builds?, I honestly do not know.

RaffyQuack 1 point 19 days ago

can i choose a different case from the one here? i'm looking to build a pretty basic gaming pc for the first time!

piratecats 1 point 18 days ago

Yes you can, make sure its Compatible with your set up, I got this one instead but not sure if its gonna get enough airflow https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353121

ICallShotgun123 1 point 15 days ago

Hello. I have been a PC gamer for a while and I know the basics when it comes to computers, but this will be my first "from 0" build. I have a few questions about my use case and if I will get what I want out of it. From reading the comments, it seems this will perform well for graphics for what I want (High graphics on old games, possibly med on newer), but I am concerned on multiplayer. My internet, as I just tested, gets about 5 mB down and 3.5 mB up. I was getting about 13ms ping. This is not something I can change (college dorm). Basically what I'm trying to find out is if that computer will be able to run basic multiplayer (PoE world loading, or maybe 5 v 5 rainbow six siege matches at the max). I am unsure if the reason i can't play these games (namely PoE, R6 is far too graphics intensive) is the poor quality of my current computer ($200 work laptop) or if the internet is bogging down the constant internet connection it requires. Thanks for the help!

ICallShotgun123 1 point 15 days ago

As of now (and with correct units), 8.5 mbps down and 4mbps up.

acedirt234 1 point 15 days ago

I can't answer why, but I do know that when I upgraded from a 5 year old laptop to this build, internet (with an ethernet in a dorm) never really became noticeable issue.

The best advice I can give for you is to ask a pc gamer with similar specs in your dorm to show you what kind of connection to expect.

handleyp 1 point 15 days ago

I am looking at purchasing this kit for my year 9 software class to put together as practical experience with hardware and software. I have never built a PC before, but i am willing to give it a go to give my class some practical hands-on experience and new skills to take home. In order to build a functional PC, do I need to purchase anything else in addition to this kit? I understand I need to buy peripheral devices e.g. keyboard, mouse, screen and the OS etc... but do I need to buy any other electronics, cabling, adhesives etc.. to go inside the tower, or is it all included. Meaning when i have finished putting this kit together and installed the OS, I should be able to switch it on and have a fully functioning computer.

What tools will I need to put the parts together?

Thank you kindly in advance :) Ms Handley.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 15 days ago

Exactly! All the peripherals you listed are the only additional things you'll need. The only tool you should need is a Phillips head screwdriver.

Of additional use are an anti-static wristband, which can be purchased cheaply, and also cable ties or velcro strips for cable management, if you desire.

handleyp 1 point 15 days ago

Thank you for your prompt reply!! This sounds great! I'm very excited and so are the kids. The only problem is they will all want to take it home and that's unfortunately not possible. I have told them though that it will equip them with the skills to then do something similar themselves. Kind regards, Peggy.

mrjojo 1 point 14 days ago

So im new to pc gaming and was wondering if this build could run fortnite on medium with 60 fps?

acedirt234 1 point 13 days ago

this will run fortnite at 1080p, 60fps, at high.

If you only see yourself playing lower end games like fortnite, and if you're concerned with the GPU prices right now, I recommend a build with a gtx 1030 or gtx 750 ti. they go for 80-90 USD and they can run fortnite at low settings at 60fps

mrjojo 1 point 11 days ago

Thanks for the response I really appreciate the feedback!

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

yeah a gt 1030 on low settings 1080p and you should get 60fps

CRZ219 1 point 12 days ago

I've been saving up money for a couple of years so I could get a gaming PC. Does anyone know if this one is worth it. I've never built one before. Thanks!

acedirt234 1 point 11 days ago

With the rise of GPU prices, it's very hard to recommend this build at the moment (the GPU is up 70 USD since when I built mine).

If you are the impatient kind, You can buy this build now and be ok with playing modern games at low-med settings, but if you are the patient kind, it may be best to wait it out.

CRZ219 1 point 11 days ago

Alright, thanks.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

Yeah.. I would wait until the prices for GPUs decrease.. rn the market is f*****

TSC_Stealth 1 point 11 days ago

to be honest that price is none existent with cryptomining, kinda wish the crap would stop. they dont make thousands or even break a hundred. im not even sure why they do it, maybe just to take away from gamers

Grilly 1 point 10 days ago

1050ti for $215 is abysmally overpriced, just buy cheap old GPU right now and suck it up until the market stabilizes.

tacticalweapon1 1 point 10 days ago

New to the PC community here. I figured this would probably be the build I would be looking for to get started, but I am worried about building it on my own. Are there services out there that would assemble these parts for me? Regardless of if there is or isn't, I was wondering if someone could also link me to some sites that would show me how to properly assemble a PC.

acedirt234 1 point 9 days ago

Here is the youtube video i watched while I was building my PC, just make sure you are grounded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

here's a website I saw that lets you choose the parts, but the gpu's are still expensive https://www.letsbld.com/?utm_source=BWU&utm_campaign=YouTube

due to the rise in gpu prices, it may be better either wait for prices to get lower, or to buy a prebuilt pc on sale from a retailer.

tacticalweapon1 1 point 9 days ago

Yeah, RIP any reasonably priced gpu. I had a friend tell me that his 1070 is like $1200 now. Any idea when that will die off? O.o

Drekloe 1 point 3 days ago

when bitcoin and ethereum die

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

I would wait right now anyway because of the GPU prices. But building a PC is actually way easier than you think. Just watch enough videos and youtube and do the research. I learned how to build a PC with youtube.

Cyberstorm 1 point 10 days ago

GPU and RAM prices have gone to hell

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

yep.. its impossible to build anything rn if you dont wanna overpay

mrjojo 1 point 9 days ago

Do i need a wireless wifi card if i dont plan on using an ethernet cable

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

Yes.. if you want to use WIFI you need an adapter.. something like an internal PCI-E card or one of those USB sticks will do the job

ComputerBuilder3 1 point 3 days ago

OK,OK,OK.I need to know one thing,and please don't make fun or call me a name,but will it run Roblox,Minecraft,TF 2,or any of those easy games?

Also,does anyone have a cheaper,yet better case?

Thanks!

acedirt234 1 point 3 days ago

If you'd read the previous comments, you'd know that this build will run most modern games at low-med at 1080p, 60fps.

Choosing a case is personal preference. so look through the website's list of cases and narrow it down to what you what. Be sure to consider reviews, motherboard capability, number of bays, and maximum graphics card length.

Apple_skates99 1 point 2 days ago

how well will this build run pubg???

acedirt234 1 point 2 days ago

Go on youtube and search, "gtx 1050 ti pubg"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj5iWmK7n80

Apple_skates99 1 point 22 hours ago

When playing a game how much percentage of the gpu do you want to be using while playing a game. What’s a healthy amount?

Apple_skates99 1 point 22 hours ago

And what temperature and all that should it be?

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

Quite well.. on 1080p on medium/low settings at 60FPS

jamestheduke 1 point 2 days ago

I used this build guide with a few minor adjustments with parts that were all still compatible with one another. The problem I am currently running into is that after using the computer for no more than 2 hours the screen suddenly goes black and has to be hard reset. I have confirmed that it is not the monitor causing the issue and I've used MSI Afterburner to check if it's an issue with temperatures, and it is not. For this reason I am completely stumped on what is causing this issue and would really appreciate any advice anyone has to offer so that I can get this PC working to its full capability.

Cyberstorm 0 points 2 months ago

Thank you for updating this list

I saw some of these parts and was wondering why they weren’t on the list

ImHazards 1 Build 0 points 1 month ago

the case isnt included in the price?

Matsozetex 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

Probably not available in your region, keep in mind that the website is based in the US and the case is available there.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 0 points 1 month ago

You can always get another case. Like the Thermaltake versa h15 or a corsair 100r or a focus G by fractal design

shadowblazer12 0 points 1 month ago

hey guys. im coming over from console to pc and im wondering if this build is good for someone whos looking to have a "console killer" pc. ive got a relatively small budget of around $700 and im wondering if this would be a good console killer and if not can anyone give me some advice or parts for building a console killer within my price range?

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Hi! Instead go with the Ryzen 5 1500x if you have a bigger budget. The Motherboard is very cheap and I would also invest in a better motherboard there as well. The RAM looks like trash and could use an upgrade as well. Let me get you a list.

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

You can buy another memory module at a later date which will help your performance a ton for now 8 Gb should be fine. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $169.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $96.99 @ Amazon
Storage SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $74.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card $174.98 @ Newegg
Case Cougar - Solution 2 ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $49.99 @ ModMyMods
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $751.81
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-06 15:18 EST-0500
ryan2949 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

You gotta remember, this post is in Canadian dollars. Your link/build would run you nearly $1100CAD after taxes. Which is $400 higher than his budget and $300 more than the build posted.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/RmFFwV is in CAD.

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $219.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $91.79 @ Newegg Canada
Memory ADATA - XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory $93.99 @ PC-Canada
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $71.25 @ shopRBC
Video Card PNY - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card $212.75 @ Vuugo
Case Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $19.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply Raidmax - Scorpio 535W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ Newegg Canada
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $764.75
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-07 11:20 EST-0500
TheCatzilla 1 point 1 month ago

pricy

JoshGer 1 Build 0 points 1 month ago

omg, it kills to see these prices... I got 8GB-2666 Ram for $69.99 and GTX 1050 Ti for $123 around Black Friday.. You poor souls..

shadowblazer12 1 point 1 month ago

thanks man would really appreciate a list!

TheCatzilla 1 point 1 month ago

Go for a higher end build, something like mid range build for $600-$650

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supermattdab0ss 1 Build 0 points 1 month ago

NVIDIA is life, man. 1050 Ti will always be better than any similarly priced AMD card. The GTX 1080 Ti is god of PC gaming. I will give credit to the Ryzen processors, however. They are amazing compared to intel.

Jyrone 1 point 1 month ago

I see we have an NVIDIA fanboy...

supermattdab0ss 1 Build -1 points 1 month ago

AMD doesn't have a 1080 Ti equivalent

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Synchro 1 Build 4 points 28 days ago

Vega 56 is more comparable to the 1070. If i remember correctly, even Vega 64 doesn't meet up with a standard 1080.

Synchro 1 Build 2 points 28 days ago

Vega 56 is more comparable to the 1070. If i remember correctly, even Vega 64 doesn't meet up with a standard 1080.

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TheCatzilla 0 points 1 month ago

The low end video, card low end ram, high case, high end motherboard and mid range storage and processor.

KaoGao -8 points 1 month ago

IMO, if you want to get a used GPU, a GTX 780 (and sometimes 780 Ti) hovers around the $130 used price point and it can outperform the 1050 Ti from tests I've seen. Although, I can understand going with the 1050 Ti due to lower power consumption, warranty and the stigma of Kepler cards since they don't see driver updates. Now, as for the AMD side, I think a RX 460 would suit the advertising of this build better, while saving a few bucks, although, that is my AMD fanboy side talking. Seriously though, you can get a used R9 280 for about the same price, although it may consume worlds more power, it'll out perform the 1050 Ti, and it'd suit the theme of AMD for this build.

llamafacelukas 1 Build 4 points 1 month ago

No, the 280x doesn't stomp the 1050 Ti. A simple YouTube benchmark search has multiple videos showing there's barely any performance difference between the two in real life gaming experiences. AMD also has notorious driver issues even still, including with the 580. It's mind-numbing that people still follow the AMD-hype garbage instead of looking up the real-world bench-marked facts.

If anyone's thinking about doing a budget build, go with the 1050 Ti. It's draws less power, has long-standing positive reviews for stability including the drivers, and keeps up with the 280x. In fact, even on Ultra settings playing PUBG, the 1050 Ti is only 10-15 FPS slower than a 1060 3GB. If you pair the 1050 Ti with an i5, it won't matter if you over-clock the CPU. It'll be smooth game-play even with titles such as GTA V, ARMA 3, and Witcher 3. I know this, because I've personally played on a system with these two specific components and with these games.

1050 Ti will be getting lower temps than an 280x, and that directly translates into longer life-span and more consistent performance because of less heat being generated. Those are the facts. Science rules.

KaoGao -2 points 1 month ago

It's mind blowing how some people still follow the Nvidia hype train when they have been overpricing their GPUs since the 600 series.

Over9000GHz 1 Build 4 points 1 month ago

How? They still beat AMD since AMD has a bunch of "mining excuses" to raise the price.

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solamon77 -12 points 1 month ago

Interesting, but misleading. In reality if this is truly entry level, the buyer is going to end up spending at least $100 - $150 more than what this list suggests. They will have to buy a copy of Windows ($90), a mouse ($10-$15), a keyboard ($10-$15), a wireless adapter ($15), and a small set of speakers ($15).

ThoughtA staff submitter 9 points 1 month ago

It's not misleading, those things are just outside the scope of the guide. This guide is about the PC and what goes inside it, nothing else.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 4 points 1 month ago

why would you need a wireless adapter? and PCPP has stated it so many times before:

"We don't add an operating system, monitor, keyboard or mouse to our guides as the variance of needs and preferences on those is pretty tough to represent in a guide. So we instead >focus the target budget price around the core system components."

-- BoyScout

realitydroid 2 Builds 0 points 1 month ago

Windows 10 can be used inactivated with very little loss in functionality, a mouse and keyboard combo can be found pretty cheap (seriously, look up Redragon on Amazon for good budget gaming peripherals), and a wireless adapter isn't always necessary. Some people might benefit from one, but most of us will probably used wired connections because they are far faster and more stable than wireless.

I do agree on the speakers portion, though I'd spend at least $30 for a set such as the Logitech Z313. Maybe a $20 headset as well.

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 29 days ago

My redragon wireless mouse died after 1 month...

realitydroid 2 Builds 1 point 23 days ago

Bummer. Mine is still working, though it isn't wireless. Hopefully it holds up for awhile, because I like it.

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CaptKip 1 point 1 month ago

Look up ryzen 3 gtx 1050 ti benchmarks and that should help you tell what sort of performance you can expect from this machine

Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor 8W - 65W
ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard 15W - 60W
ADATA - XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory 5W - 5W
Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card 18W - 75W
Total: 50W - 225W