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Entry Level Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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222 Comments
NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

Our CPU of choice for this budget is the i3-6100. While it features only two cores, the 6100 also employs hyperthreading to help close the gap between it and a 4-core i5. Hyperthreading adds an additional logical core for each physical core, which is handy for streaming, video editing, and multi-tasking CPU-intensive tasks.

We're using a sparse selection of motherboards, which will display which is the best priced of the three. All three motherboards feature the B150 chipset and an LGA 1151 socket for compatibility with the i3-6100. They include 4 DIMM slots for up to 64GB of DDR4 RAM. They're also capable of using the CPU's integrated GPU, in case you need to RMA your GPU or are waiting for a sale or upgrade.

A parametric filter is being applied to choose the best priced 2x4GB kit of memory within Intel's recommended specifications. With this selection, we have space on the motherboards for 2 more sticks of RAM, leaving room for future expansion. We're also using parametric filters to select the best priced 240-256GB SSD available. The SSD can be used for your OS and a good handful of games. Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to change out capacities to fit yours. For example, if 240GB feels cramped to you, I recommend picking up a mechanical hard drive for another 1 or 2TB or storage space.

We're going with a filter for the best-priced AMD Radeon RX 470, which is newer and faster than the previous selection of an R9 380. This will run modern games at 1080p admirably. If you'd like to squeeze a little more performance out of your build for more money, you can check out the Radeon RX 480 and GeForce GTX 1060 to see if their prices look appealing to you.

The Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 is a mini tower case that can fit all of our components. It offers decent cable management, which can sometimes be a problem at our budget, and there's room to expand with hard drives or a solid state drive. It also has 1 front panel USB 3.0 port and 1 front panel USB 2.0 port. This mini tower case also won't take up as much space as a mid tower. Cases tend to be highly personal choices, so make sure you browse our listed cases to see what suits you.

For the PSU, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular and modular units, which are all rated for good efficiency and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: See notes below.

Estimated Wattage: 246W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $144.98 FREE $144.98 DirectCanada Buy
Motherboard $101.65 $101.65 shopRBC Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
$65.00 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $65.00 Amazon Canada Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 240GB - 256GB
  • Type: SSD
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 2.5"
$97.85 $97.85 shopRBC Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: Radeon RX 470
$239.99 -$30.00 $209.99 NCIX Buy
$30.00 mail-in rebate
Case $50.98 FREE $50.98 DirectCanada Buy
Power Supply $84.99 $84.99 Newegg Canada Buy
Base Total: $785.44
Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
Total: $755.44
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Compatibility Notes

  • The Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case supports video cards up to 350mm long, but video cards over 210mm may block drive bays. Since the Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card is 242mm long, some drive bays may not be usable.
  • Flag compatibility notes as incorrect

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frapbot 6 points 7 months ago

Can this build run upcoming games like Dishonored 2 and Battlefield 1 at 60 fps (or higher) at 1080p?

weee_fern 3 points 7 months ago

Sorry I'm a bit late, but yes. Without a problem.

aqua_bean 2 points 7 months ago

overwatch?

weee_fern 2 points 7 months ago

Overwatch is pretty easy to run. This build would destroy it at 1080p. 100+fps probably.

AustinHerzfeldt 6 Builds 4 points 7 months ago

I would just grab a 480 for that money

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Can you get an RX 480 for the same price?

AustinHerzfeldt 6 Builds 2 points 6 months ago

Yea for 20ish dollars more, give or take a couple of course. The pricing on those cards is so messed up.

IceyWind 1 point 6 months ago

But as well, most Rx480 are sold out so you would have to sang one straight away when you see one.

kishizu 2 points 7 months ago

does the mechanical HD go with the SSD or replace it? do you have a recommendation for a 1 or 2 T drive?

LemonComputers 4 points 7 months ago

The SSD is faster than the HDD. A pairing of an SSD and an HDD is good, but either one without the other will work perfectly fine. For drive recommendations, I would need to know your budget.

memewaffle 0 points 7 months ago

Well, a good 1tb drive is WD Caviar Blue. A hitachi is great for 2tb

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

A hitachi is great for 2tb

The 5400 RPM WD Blue is still faster than the 7200 RPM HGST Ultrastar.

memewaffle 1 point 7 months ago

Really? That seems weird, but I don't own a Hitachi right now, I sold it. Any benches?

tomtomj2 8 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Not bad, I like it. Although Id choose the Fractel Design Core 1100 over the 1000, and maybe a cheaper 470, but the Silver Reference card is cool. Parametric filter, didnt see that. :P

Mxermadman 2 Builds 1 point 7 months ago

I got the silver one for a build recently. It is pretty cool. It's inexpensive, comes with a backplate and the blower style cooler works well in small cases and cases with less airflow.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Looks like a good budget build, except that I'd probably change the Silicon Power SSD with something higher quality and save up a little bit and change the Rosewill Capstone G power supply with something a little higher like the EVGA or SeaSonic units you have in the parametric selection. (I see that the SSD was selected by the parametric filter; Silicon Power is cheap for a reason.)

KV3NU21 1 point 7 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFFjHN Planning to build this as my first gaming pc,Any recommendations ?

Nadder97 1 point 7 months ago

From my perspective it looks alright, the mobo may need to be upgraded after a few years of use

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

the mobo may need to be upgraded after a few years of use

Why? It looks like a pretty good motherboard to me.

Nadder97 1 point 7 months ago

I meant if you wanted to upgrade the cpu or gpu and stuff you might need more space

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor $118.20 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $53.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $53.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $69.87 @ NCIX US
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GAMING Video Card $204.98 @ Newegg
Case DIYPC DIY-F2-O ATX Mini Tower Case $34.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $90.72 @ B&H
Keyboard Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $29.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $716.71
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-19 17:16 EDT-0400
  • Replaced the HGST Deskstar 7K2000 with the WD Blue for less
  • Replaced the mediocre EVGA 500B power supply with the better quality Corsair CX550M power supply
  • Removed custom prices on the Windows license. Don't pirate.
KV3NU21 1 point 7 months ago

The 2tb hdd i kinda need the space..i'll probably add a 240gb ssd if i feel the need. is the evga 500b a bad psu?.. also i have a question,the case im buying comes with an 800w psu,(xtech) should i use that or sell it and use another psu.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 7 months ago

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KV3NU21 1 point 7 months ago

Thanks for the info i didn't know sir. A laptop i bought from best buy came with windows 8.1 a few years ago and i upgraded it to windows 10 when it was free..is it possible to move windows 10 to my future pc?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

The 2tb hdd i kinda need the space..

There's a 2 TB version of the WD Blue.

is the evga 500b a bad psu?..

Mediocre but not bad. The new, gray Corsair CXM series is better.

also i have a question,the case im buying comes with an 800w psu,(xtech) should i use that or sell it and use another psu.

Cases with PSUs included often have poor quality PSUs so you shouldn't use the case. X-Tech in particular makes PSUs known to explode so I would just stop using it instead of selling it to someone else.

Im planning to buy the windows license from somewhere like [piracy] or [piracy]... thoughts?

Those sites sell cheap, pirated Windows licenses that are illegal. I highly recommend purchasing a Windows license from a retailer listed here instead.

KV3NU21 1 point 7 months ago

Alright thanks for the tips,i'll go take a look at the hdd/psu For windows,i have a laptop with windows 10 that i upgraded when it was free, is it possible to move win10 to my future pc?

1rajveer1 1 point 7 months ago

recomend getting a 1TB instead 1tb itself its already allot and use the money left for a better graphics card and also i think the octane bundle is at a discount rn so u can pick that up for 10 dollars more i think dont quote me on it lol

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

An SSD is much faster than an HDD, and increasing the storage capacity of an SSD to 1 TB would hugely increase price.

mertoncleoud76 1 point 5 months ago

IMO stay away from hitachi HDDs, i go WD all the way... also, seagate is poison.

KV3NU21 1 point 5 months ago

Care to explain why?

mertoncleoud76 1 point 5 months ago

If you want to lose data and have your hard drive break down after a year then go ahead and get a hitachi, seagate has been unkind to me as well, lasting only a few months until they start making noises and stop working. I've never had any problems with WD, and so I swear by them, and they are very affordable. Trust me, spending 5-10 bucks more for a western digital with the same specs will be well worth it, the price tag for that size may seem like a godsent, but it's cheap for a reason.

fingerz42 1 point 7 months ago

Not bad for $560 but remember its missing a monitor and operating system. I built a full build including both for $690.

KV3NU21 2 points 7 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFFjHN Planning to build this as my first gaming pc,Any recommendations ?

1rajveer1 1 point 7 months ago

Get this keyboard and mouse bundle its pretty much the one you have right now but better it has multi led's and a better mouse and its the same price http://pcpartpicker.com/product/KWGj4D/cooler-master-keyboard-sgb3020kkmf1us Get a 1Tb instead you really dont need 2, and get 8gb memory no point of getting 16 unless your edditing or streaming use the money left over for a better CPu or graphics card

fenwaydog5 1 point 7 months ago

What monitor and operating system did you, get?

fingerz42 1 point 7 months ago

Acer KN242HYL 24" at $110. Windows 10 at $83.

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

I got Windows 10 Pro at $67.13

LemonComputers 2 points 7 months ago

Did you pirate it? I don't think legitimate Windows licenses are sold that cheap, especially Pro.

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

Nah it's a legitimate license.

BodaciousBuddha 1 point 7 months ago

You'd be surprised.

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philip staff 10 Builds 1 point 7 months ago

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piecrustyumyum 1 Build 2 points 7 months ago

Sorry, didn't know that wasn't allowed. Won't happen again.

Nadder97 0 points 7 months ago

When you are building a PC you shouldn't include software and peripherals since they aren't the core hardware. Also, many people usually already have a good monitor and keyboard/mouse to use anyways. You could always just download Linux instead since it is cheaper and use that while you save up for a windows OS if you choose so.

fingerz42 2 points 7 months ago

Ofcourse, it also makes builds look much cheaper, too.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

When you are building a PC you shouldn't include software and peripherals since they aren't the core hardware.

Not necessarily. I think adding software and peripherals for your own build is nice and organized, just that build guides don't include them because they're subjective.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 4 points 7 months ago

Do not advocate piracy on this site.

Stycks32 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Heh, this is pretty much exactly what I put together a few months ago waiting on the 480 or 1060. Only notable difference is my motherboard chipset. I went with a Z170 instead of an alternative because I wend with a slightly cheaper OEM version of windows (which isn't recommended for basic users mind you) so I wouldn't have to get a new windows key when I upgrade my mobo. This way, I can easily upgrade to a k-skew i5 or i7 and be up and running, no other switch needed. Kind of an over-purchase, but a solid future-proof investment in my case imo. Also I went with the 1060. Hopefully it won't fall too far behind in DX12 and Vulcan in the future. (not meaning to turn this into a amd vs Nvidia thread)

KV3NU21 1 point 7 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFFjHN Planning to build this as my first gaming pc,Any recommendations ?

CROW9 1 point 7 months ago

Unless you have specific other reasoning, I'd recommend putting more money into something other than a 16gb kit of ram(such as your processor) at that sort of price point. Other parts look ok tho, idk about that case, but I've never seen it before so maybe its ok.

KV3NU21 2 points 7 months ago

I chose the 16gb kit because the the price difference for a motherboard with 4 slots is about the same. So i rather 16gb and 2 slots over the 4slot 8gb later. Also 16gb ram price comes a bit cheaper than 8gb if you're gonna buy it later anyways. Another reason im buying the parts like this is so when im gonna upgrade its gonna be the processor and gpu,and maybe an ssd. But for now it'll fit me fine because i'll mostly be playing emulators and AAA dx11 titles and doom. The next upgrade would be when dx12 titles finally really come around and maybe if i upgrade to 1440p.

For the case im planning on buying a set locally that costs me about 105$ including case/keyboard & mouse/some cheap speakers and a headset that are all black/red. Also i might sell the speakers and headaet because i already have logitech speakers and a turtlebeach headset. id only be able to get a case and keyboard/mouse for the same price if i ordered it.

This will be my first gaming pc! Moving from a lowly ps3 What do u think

omarhammad25 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

(I am not sure if this is aloud on pcpartpicker sorry if it is not admins) but i will be willing to buy your headset

LiquidWolfGaming 1 point 7 months ago

Not a bad build at all, it's good for £531

Casimiro4366 1 point 7 months ago

For this PC, how many years will it be until it is obsolete? I have researched this build and seen that it can run games like The Witcher 3 above the required specs, but how long will it be until it can't even reach minimum?

LemonComputers 2 points 7 months ago

I would estimate maybe 3-5 years.

frapbot 1 point 7 months ago

Can I have the link to that Witcher 3 test?

kishizu 1 point 7 months ago

do i need a one to two cable for the fans? The video on the mid-end gaming system included that. Just want to make sure we have everything to build.

Casimiro4366 1 point 7 months ago

Do you have a suggestion for a good one or two terabyte hard drive? Everything seems good besides that, but I think more storage is necessary to go along with the SSD, especially for gaming.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

What's your budget?

Casimiro4366 1 point 7 months ago

I'd like it to be less than $90, but I can probably pay a bit more if it's worth it.

lino216 3 Builds 1 point 7 months ago

did this build go 2400mhz because 2133mhz and 2400mhz almost the same price in the market now?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Looks like the 2400 MHz RAM was selected by the parametric filter because it was the least expensive.

lino216 3 Builds 1 point 7 months ago

is 2400mhz which is faster is actually cheaper than 2133mhz?

detenator 1 point 7 months ago

It would depend on the manufacturer, but sometimes yes. Because of brand name selections having a higher price it is very common to see off-brand manufacturers with cheaper (and sometimes just as fast) parts.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

For 8 GB 2x4 RAM, apparently so.

iGaM3Ri 1 point 7 months ago

Is the PSU "safe"? I've heard some pretty bad reviews towards Rosewill PSU's

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Most of them shouldn't explode, but some of them aren't that great. But anyways, the cheapest one is the SeaSonic now, not the Rosewill.

SwedishK 1 point 7 months ago

To those who have assembled this build, after seeing the compatibility notes, is it better to just use the Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case or should I invest in a different case?

Also, I'm guessing I need to buy a wifi card as well?

dogeater1223 1 point 7 months ago

The case is not available which case do you guys recommend?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Fractal Design Core 1100

Very similar to this build guide's Core 1000 case.

KINGxKATANA 1 point 7 months ago

Will this pc be able to run csgo dayz h1z1 arma 2-3 and possibly some other games on high settings and will I be able to pick another case??? Plus will I be able to add another two 4gb ram sticks or a 8 gb ram stick???

FyreWaater 1 point 7 months ago

Sorry about this, I'm completely new to the pc world. Don't you need a cooling fan in this?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

The Fractal Design Core 1000 comes with one preinstalled case fan in the front, but if you want more cooling, you could add another 120mm as well as a 92mm fan. In many cases, PC cooling is all passive and no CPU cooler fan or case fans are needed, but I'd recommend case fans and active CPU coolers for this build (as again, the case comes with an 120mm fan preinstalled).

P.S. I'd recommend swapping the poor quality Silicon Power SSD for a SanDisk SSD PLUS.

xHammy 1 point 7 months ago

But why a 470 not a 480? It's only $60 more for a sapphire RX 480 8Gb

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 7 months ago

Budget matters for these builds. That's over a 10% increase on an already tight budget. You can always throw "just a little more money" for better performance.

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/guide/wPG323/cheap-vr-build my build guide has the same CPU But uses the RX 480 for $10 more. the downside is I had to use DDR3 to achieve the price. if just makes the PC lifespan shorter because it will be obsolete in the next 2-3 years

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

the downside is I had to use DDR3 to achieve the price. if just makes the PC lifespan shorter because it will be obsolete in the next 2-3 years

Skylake does not officially support DDR3 memory and using such memory may shorten the lifespan of your processor. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/skylake-memory-support,30185.html

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

I suggest lowering the DDR3 voltage to the DDR3L spec

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Yes, but that's not always successful, and many users don't know how to do that.

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

all they have to do is look at their board manual and find out how to enable XMP. if the RAM doesn't have XMP support ill change the RAM

mindhoney 1 point 7 months ago

I've never built a pc before, will I need some kind of wi-fi adapter or anything else?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

If you want to use wireless networking, you'll need a wireless network adapter since the motherboard doesn't have integrated wireless networking.

ThatGuy1oo1 1 point 7 months ago

Seems like a build I might use, thanks.

WhatWeDoHereIsGoBack 1 point 7 months ago

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/RG3Cd6

This build is similar, yet with a much better processor! check it out, only a few dollars difference.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

The performance difference between the i3-6100 and the i5-6400 is rather small, and the i3 has an advantage over the i5 in single threaded performance. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6400-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100/3512vs3511

awesomeskalerz 1 point 7 months ago

I have a build similar to this, I already own a 470, and am planning for an i5-6500, should I go to an 13-6100? What performace diffrence, and how long will my build last in difference between the two?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

The performance difference...isn't tiny but isn't that large either: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6500-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100/3513vs3511

david1221 1 point 7 months ago

I want to change HDD in 500gb or 1Tb. Can you please answer me which HDD I have to choose?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

The WD Blue is good.

Ravenhelm 2 Builds 1 point 7 months ago

I can vouch for that. I own multiple WD hard drives and all have run without a hitch. I've been using a WD Blue as storage for a couple years now, never once had an issue.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Still important to make backups though, as always.

davideftw 1 point 7 months ago

Like the build, though i would prefer to switch to a 1TB WD 7200RPM HDD instead of a SSD (for price), just save up 70$ and get an i5 6400/6500 (since games like GTA V and such don't go well with dual core CPU'S) for extra performance, and get the Sapphire Nitro+ RX 470, or a R9 380X WindForce, it sounds like I'm making this more to a good PC Build instead of a Entry Level, but you could later upgrade the CPU and get a HDD. Still, pretty neat build!

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

I had an i3 4170 the hyperthreading actually removes all those problems in GTA V. you don't need to get anything better than an i3 6100. as for the GPU your choice. I have a Xeon 1230v5 E3 and a GTX 1070 and the only thing I can say is that the i3 barely bottlenecks the 970 or 1070 for that matter.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

I have a Xeon 1230v5 E3 and a GTX 1070 and the only thing I can say is that the i3 barely bottlenecks the 970 or 1070 for that matter.

Keep in mind that the Core i3 and Xeon E3 are different processors.

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

no I know I'm saying there was no bottlenecking comparing the 2 processors

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Oh ok. I thought you were saying that your E3 doesn't bottleneck and therefore an i3 won't bottleneck, but I might have misread...

kanderson55 1 point 7 months ago

It says "video cards over 210mm may block drive bays". Does it have any problems, and will it affect upgrading in the future?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

It should be fine.

frapbot 1 point 7 months ago

Can the case support an optical drive? Specifically this one: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Yes. It has two external 5.25" drive bays and therefore can support two optical drives.

cooper103 1 point 7 months ago

I am new to pc building, but I already have a pc. It has an intel I-7 6700 processer and 12gb of ddr3l memory. I am happy with it, but I have trouble running somewhat demanding games. I have integrated graphics and I am wondering if I should build a pc for gaming, or buy a new graphics card on my current PC. Any suggestions would help thank you.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Definitely add a video card. Even on a high end processor like the i7-6700, the integrated graphics are rather low performance and you will not be able to play demanding games very well running on integrated graphics. What is your budget for a video card?

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

I always say if you can't decide, go for a $300-$350 Graphics card. cheapest RX 480 will do you but just check your PSU for compatibility because Large companies use pretty spotty PSUs just hope it's ATX form factor

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

but just check your PSU for compatibility because Large companies use pretty spotty PSUs just hope it's ATX form factor

because Large companies use pretty spotty PSUs

What?

Angrovar 1 point 7 months ago

I was avoiding saying **** but oh well.

ProfessorZeno 1 point 7 months ago

Hi, total PC Noob here.

The Video Card is currently out of stock. Are there any other viable options? Thanks!

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

The Video Card is currently out of stock. Are there any other viable options? Thanks!

What's your budget?

ToxicMunchies 1 point 7 months ago

why SSD over HDD?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Because SSDs are much faster than HDDs.

BanksGaming 1 point 7 months ago

Gigabyte motherbord always give me problem. I prefer Asus for sure

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

How so? You could have just received a lemon.

GreatFool 1 point 7 months ago

Is the i3-6100 better than the Amd Fx770k?

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 7 months ago

Yes, by a good margin.

Rayyan_KSA 1 point 7 months ago

Hi, could this build run games on 1080p at 60 fps ? and if there is any performance video test please link it here , thanks :)

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Which games?

Rayyan_KSA 1 point 7 months ago

Battelfield 1 , Titanfall and Watch Dogs 2 , etc.

Sephiroth179 1 point 7 months ago

Im trying to get into pc gaming and this would be my first pc and im wondering if anyone knows if this can run overwatch sorry if this is a stupid question im just a noob. An if someone knows a better build for around 500 dollars please tell me thanks.

Pixle_Res 1 point 7 months ago

Yes, it can run overwatch.

KV3NU21 1 point 7 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFFjHN Planning to build this as my first gaming pc,Any recommendations ?

Psyckosama 1 point 7 months ago

At that price, might as well go with a 480...

brendanw36 1 point 7 months ago

A better build would be using a GTX 1060 for the same price and (plz don't yell at me) an fx-6300 (you'll also have to change the mobo, but that will be cheaper too).

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

A better build would be using a GTX 1060 for the same price and (plz don't yell at me)

Same price? I would only expect GTX 1060's with poor cooling (e.g. the Founder's Edition) to be less expensive than this RX 470.

an fx-6300 (you'll also have to change the mobo, but that will be cheaper too).

An FX-6300 would actually be a drastic downgrade, even though it has more cores. The performance of even an FX-9590 is about comparable to that of an i3-6100.

brendanw36 1 point 7 months ago

Woah woah woah. I was aware that some GTX 1060s were a lot cheaper, but I only thought that was cause they were 3GB models. If you say there is a cooling problem with some of them I will take your word for it. Although I have no idea what your talking about when it comes to the processor. I'm using the benchmarks found at http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php. You have got to be kidding me if you think the 9590 is on par with the i3-6100. It's miles ahead of that thing . The single core performance of the intel may be better than both those amds (I'm not saying added together), but the intel has two cores so games that can take advantage of 2 or more cores (alot of games if not most) will be maxing out that cpu so good luck trying to run some sort of screen capture software or a browser or something else. Does anyone else think what I'm saying is wrong cause if so please tell me cause I have got to be wrong about a lot of things.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

If you say there is a cooling problem with some of them I will take your word for it.

Not a cooling problem, just not as good cooling performance.

I'm using the benchmarks found at http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php.

Those aren't very reliable/accurate.

You have got to be kidding me if you think the 9590 is on par with the i3-6100. It's miles ahead of that thing .

No, I'm completely serious. Probably just misinformation from CPU-Benchmark. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-6100-vs-AMD-FX-9590/3511vs1812

The single core performance of the intel may be better than both those amds (I'm not saying added together), but the intel has two cores so games that can take advantage of 2 or more cores (alot of games if not most) will be maxing out that cpu so good luck trying to run some sort of screen capture software or a browser or something else.

Many games can actually run on only two cores.

brendanw36 1 point 7 months ago

Skip to the last line for something. Little factoid: One reason I dislike the FX-9590 is because it's newegg page (no joke) says liquid cooling is required. I am aware that amd tries to compensate (hehehe... compensation) for weak single core performance by adding more cores and bumping up the clock speed that often never get used, but I still disagree that the most powerful processor amd has ever made can barely stand up to and i3. I have watched videos of game performance of an X4 880k and GTX 750 ti getting 1080p high settings in Crysis 3 above 45 fps and most of the sitting at 60 fps. Unfortunately according to passmark's single thread benchmarks amd sucks big ducks. They are all stuck at about the same single core performance (fx-9s offer about 7/8 of the single core performance of that i3-6100 and the fx-8s, fx-6*s, and X4 8s are 3/4 the single core performance) so some of the more expensive amd processors only offer more L2 cache or more cores/threads. So spending money on a 9590 and some liquid cooling isn't really worth it (although I don't know how much L2 cache affects gaming performance) and you should probably just shoot for an fx-6300 or an fx-6350, or an 860k, 870k, or 880k (note that the 880k and 870k uses the newer godavari architecture while the 860k uses kaveri. I really appreciate you reading these entire posts and the really mature manner in which you reply to them. I'm sure we've all seen someone who gets really defensive when they are questioned, but you have treated me with a rarely seen politeness. You have helped me learn a lot from just this little conversation and I will walk away knowing more than I did before. You may now continue reading from the top.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Good points. While the FX-9590 does have more cores than an i3, in most current games and other uses, the FX-9590 is comparable to the i3-6100.

Nadder97 1 point 7 months ago

Well I know the 470 and i3 are a good combo, haven't gotten mine to test yet, but how will using a more expensive mobo and PS effect it? Is that just for future proofing?

Ragweed 1 point 7 months ago

CGI animator here, do you think this build would be good for animation in Maya? I'd like to be able to do some editing in aftereffects too, just curious if this build would work well with that sort of thing or maybe I should look at some of the stronger computers. I won't be doing any heavy effects but I might want a scene to be rendered decently.

I might be able to afford to upgrade the graphics card. Also I eventually want to get a cintiq monitor as well, is there anything I should be concerned about?

brandongrimaldo 1 point 6 months ago

I'd switch the processor to a i5-6500 in your case. Everything else can stay the same.

Baileyfrancis 1 point 7 months ago

Would this computer be able to run fallout new vegas with a overhaul enb mod.....also with other mods installed at the same time

Cicero_ 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Most definitely.

CROW9 1 point 7 months ago

I'm building a pc very much like this one. I've seen some benchmarks for bf1, which is 1 game I wanna play, and can see a pc like this can avg 60fps+ at 1080p ultra, but I'm wondering what kind of framerates I will get in CS:GO(I know it can run it, I'm looking for fps numbers), Overwatch, H1Z1, Arma, and Witcher. If anyone can link me a video or something, as I haven't really seen many, it would be much appreciated.

lehial 1 point 7 months ago

Hi guys i am looking to get a cheap gaming PC that can handle any game such as GTA, FIFA, BF1 etc and can handle streaming to twitch, my budget is fairly low, not looking to go over £600 if i am honest but can break the bank a little. I am a complete noob so i have no idea how this all works, i do want to build it myself and have watched enough videos to be able to put it all together but i just do not have knowledge on the specific parts. Thanks

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

but i just do not have knowledge on the specific parts.

Which specific parts do you lack knowledge about?

lehial 1 point 7 months ago

I know what all the parts do, i just don't know what is deemed better in terms of the brand etc. I would never be able to tell you which motherboard is better if you put 2 in front of me, same with Nvidia or AMD and so on. Thanks for replying so quick.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Neither NVIDIA nor AMD are better than each other and the same is for Intel and AMD - you can only compare specific products to products, not companies to companies. This is because one companies product will often be better than another companies product, but the same situation could be vice versa when comparing a different set of products.

lehial 1 point 7 months ago

Okay thank you, would you recommend this pc build for what i need? I only want to play occasionally on the system and mainly use it for recording console gameplay and streaming from console. I just need a system that is also capable of handling any game id wish to play and something i won't have to mess around with once it is up and running. Thanks for your help.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Yes except change the Silicon Power SSD to something higher quality.

DokTorK 1 point 7 months ago

from where i'm at...this would cost like...680$:(...but with a hdd also ..and better ram

Outline_Pro 1 point 7 months ago

It would be cheaper and better if you were to replace the CPU with an AMD FX-6300 and a compatible mobo, however it is a nice build

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

The AMD FX-6300 is much lower performing than the Intel Core i3 processor used in this build guide and would be a complete performance downgrade, despite cores.

Pixle_Res 1 point 7 months ago

Would I be able to upgrade to an i5 or i7 later down the line? Also, how long until this build wont be able to play games without any upgrades? It can play games like battlefield and overwatch, right?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Would I be able to upgrade to an i5 or i7 later down the line?

Yes.

Also, how long until this build wont be able to play games without any upgrades?

Depends on the specific game in question.

It can play games like battlefield and overwatch, right?

Yes.

Pixle_Res 1 point 7 months ago

If i have windows on a disk, and upgrade CPU's, would i be able to put in the same disk and re-download the OS without paying extra?

gfunk62984 1 point 6 months ago

I could be wrong, but as far as I know, you don't have to reinstall windows for a cpu upgrade. An OS reinstall mainly applies to swapping motherboards, like I said I could be wrong, or I've just been incredibly lucky.

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago

I believe you're correct.

Pixle_Res 1 point 6 months ago

Sorry for all the questions, (I tired doing research but couldn't find it) but does this motherboard support wireless network adapters? Also, what are some recommendations on adapters?

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Any motherboard that has PCIe X1 slots supports wireless network adapters. Are you referring to if the motherboard has build in Wi-Fi, then no, it does not and if you need wireless connectivity then you will need to purchase a separate wireless network adapter.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Yes, as long as you do not change your motherboard and the Windows license is genuine and legitimate.

nborysyk 1 point 7 months ago

So would this setup be able to run a game like overwatch on ultra graphic settings at 60fps? And also does this build allow for easy upgrades in the future? Thanks in advance

Jammes73143 1 point 7 months ago

Would this build be able to play games like call of duty battlefield and overwatch at 60fps?

geenoscii 1 point 7 months ago

Guys, is my build okay? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MjCDjc

YukioKouri 1 Build 2 points 7 months ago

Depends on what you want to do. I think your system should be fine to run every thing medium 1080p. Maybe some on high. If you are looking for gaming i would save up a bit more ad get a gtx 1060 3gb or if your an amd fan the rx 470. though from the benchmarks i have watched all week the 1060 is better in almost every game. it loses in doom, hitman, warhammer, and one more i cant remember the name either way it loses about 10fps. but they where still over 60. I am not sure what your currency is like but for me the gtx 1060 3gb is the same price as the rx 470. But if you dont care to much about ultra and high you should be okay :) Your computer will be okay so if you dont like it in a year you would just need a graphics upgrade.

geenoscii 1 point 7 months ago

I only do light gaming (e-sports and some MMORPGs) I also play triple A games but but I really don't need too much detail on graphics, 1080 or 720p is good for me, medium to high settings since my monitor currently only has 1366 x 768 resolution, 60hz. But thanks for the suggestion anyway. :) btw is my RAM a way overkill?

And 1060 costs way too much in my country

YukioKouri 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

You should be fine with what you have then :)

YukioKouri 1 Build 2 points 7 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4qRnpb This would be better and i tried to keep it the same price. ram wont make a diffrence and the motherboard and h110 is the same either way :) You will get better performance they also have EVGA 1060 3gb for 199 and evga offers lifetime warranty if you buy from a retailer that they authorized and you register it on there site within 30 days :) Atleast that what ncix said and what i did with my evga 500w psu

geenoscii 1 point 7 months ago

Thank you. But GTX 1060 costs way too much in my country.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

You could also use an RX 480 or 470 instead.

geenoscii 1 point 7 months ago

RX 480 and 470 costs two times here in my country

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago

You could try a 460 instead then.

ElectricMoon 1 point 7 months ago

Can this build run any of these games: Rainbow Six Siege, Rocket League, Forza Horzion 3, or Final Fantasy XV?

YukioKouri 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Nice build man :) I would of done a GTX 1060 3GB but either way this is a nice build.

ameyerrus 1 point 7 months ago

FYI, Newegg I5-6500 w/1060 GPU for only $20 more. Plus there is a $10 dollar mail-in-rebate. So really it is only $10's more than this build. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3071400

ameyerrus 1 point 6 months ago

I should also add that this combo comes with a case, 8GB RAM, Power supply, Motherboard, and a 120GB SSD.

gfunk62984 1 point 6 months ago

While it's a very good price, remember it's a bundled deal, which are not always available. This is more of an all around guide to an entry level gaming rig that can't take into account bundled deals from all vendors. Anyone looking to build a PC should always check online stores for any special or bundles before pulling the trigger on individual parts. It's an awesome value and I would recommend anyone, within this budget range that's in the market to build a PC right now, pick it up.

Ace2643 1 point 7 months ago

Could you recommend a 1-2 terabit hard drive to go with this build, I feel that that is the only problem that I would have with this build as it only has 240gb.

Thanks.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

1 to 2 terabytes? I don't think any HDDs are measured in terabits.

Ubercharge83 1 point 7 months ago

If I'm running games at higher settings, will the case fan be adequate will a separate one be better?

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago

Stock case fans provided with the case should be sufficient.

helpmeimdumb 1 point 7 months ago

do you need fans to cool down your computer? and also do the cables come with the parts or do you buy them seperate?

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

The processor used in this build guide provides a stock cooler and the case provides stock case fans, and therefore any extra cooling would be beneficial but not needed. Most parts should come with necessary cables.

MadeUnderground 1 point 7 months ago

Can I use this build and just change the CPU to a i5 6600 or 6500, change the case to a corsair C70 and change the GPU to a GTX 1060?

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Can I use this build and just change the CPU to a i5 6600 or 6500,

Yes.

change the case to a corsair C70

Yes.

and change the GPU to a GTX 1060?

Which specific GTX 1060?

Mau.100 1 point 6 months ago

Wouldn't it be better to get the rx 480 4 gb version? Its only 40 usd difference

LemonComputers 3 points 6 months ago

Yes, but you could get something slightly better for every part in the list and would end up getting a non-entry level build. Or, to put it another way, you can almost always get a part that's slightly better, but then you're exceeding the budget.

CloakOfShadows 1 point 6 months ago

In regards to the compatibility issue and the case not housing the video card properly, I'm adding a 1TB HD to this build and Im curious how it'll be effected, if at all with 1 minor addition to it.

The HD I plan on adding

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/dCxfrH/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003

Will it be an issue?

Thank You!

VoidCow 1 point 6 months ago

If you're not tied to this case, you can always get a different or bigger one.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

...If it's even an issue at all...

AKInsane 1 point 6 months ago

What is the Price with the software and the windows? Also what games will this build support at high graphics?

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Depends on the specific software and version of Windows you purchase. You can pick these yourself and the price will be added to the total build cost calculation.

AKInsane 1 point 6 months ago

Thank you, I will take this into consideration

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

No problem.

Joshua1924142 1 point 6 months ago

Can this pc run tf2,gmod,l4d2,rainbow six siege,gta 5,csgo

VoidCow 1 point 6 months ago

Yes shouldn't be a problem.

KuroeUsagi 1 point 6 months ago

Can this run League of Legends and a recording program (like fraps) at a decent level?

gfunk62984 1 point 6 months ago

League of legends is fairly easy to run, I'm not sure what kind of impact fraps will have on performance but I've heard obs (open broadcast software, I believe is what it stand for) has very little impact.

KuroeUsagi 1 point 6 months ago

thank you

Trodger94 1 point 6 months ago

Hello everyone I'm a complete newbie to gaming computers but would this run games like Arma3 without a problem also

stormhawk819 1 point 6 months ago

First off, I'm not a super big techie when it comes to computer specs, so I'm not sure what all this completely means.

One question: How well will this run Overwatch? I'm not looking for anything amazing, just something decent. How many fps can this go?

firtlast 1 point 6 months ago

How well would this build work if I pretty much bought all the same things, but replaced the GPU with a GTX 750 Ti? I already have the video card on hand.

MDBL 1 point 6 months ago

Would a 750TI be good for this build?

pi.xel 1 point 6 months ago

Looking for a build under 600$ mostly for youtube video editing and recording gameplay on my xbox one with an elgato hd capture card. Anyone can help? with so many parts to choose from im a bit lost lol. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

kem1s 1 point 6 months ago

In my opinion you should spend 70€ more and get this build --> http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/jDrrGf. Still, gr8 build +1

ArcDuck 1 Build -3 points 7 months ago

For people looking for a budget pc, use AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor as a processor and Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case for the case. That should be cheaper and better.

ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 7 months ago

I would strongly recommend against that CPU versus the i3-6100. It is significantly slower.

ArcDuck 1 Build 0 points 7 months ago

Do you mean the amd processor is faster or the intel processor is faster?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 7 months ago

The i3-6100 is significantly faster than the X4 860K.

ArcDuck 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Hmmm, well i have a lot of thinking to do. Thanks for telling me thats really useful.

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 7 months ago

Not a problem!

rhali8 2 Builds 2 points 7 months ago

Thee X4 860K is an outdated CPU that doesn't do very well in gaming. It lacks L3 cache, which games generally rely heavy on. The i3 6100's significantly higher single core performance, hyperthreading and upgrade path make it a much, much better option.

LemonComputers 2 points 7 months ago

The Intel Core i3-6100 is faster.

LemonComputers 2 points 7 months ago

AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor

and better.

Not true. The Intel Core i3-6100 has much better performance than the AMD Athlon X4 860K. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-6100-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-860K/3511vs3265

YukioKouri 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Been watching benchmarks all week and the i3 6100 is surprisingly a beast of a cpu. It has out done all the AMD processors i was told to get. You would be surprised how this thing takes on CPU intense games it throws its fists up and it goes hard :) i3 use to be bad but the skylake one rocks. tho the 6100 is the only one worth it not worth spending the extra 50 for the other version. you only get .2ghz increases and it does not make a difference.

BuffaloChickenPCMR -5 points 7 months ago

B O T T L E N E C K

demongoose 2 points 6 months ago

Not really.

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LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Yes, that would be a decent choice, but if you can afford it you should look at the 6 GB model.

Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor 6W - 51W
MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard 15W - 60W
Patriot 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory 5W - 5W
Western Digital Green 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card 30W - 120W
Total: 58W - 246W