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Build PC for fastest CAD rendering

YKAdrian
  • 59 months ago

Ok does anyone have some clear advise on this.

Which CPU is best for CAD? or is it the Graphics cars that matters?

I am going to spend quite a lot on this, so what ever is needed really.

Unfortunately its not for games but CAD drawings that finalise with a photrealistic perspective.

Any advise will be appreciated.

Comments

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

Hello YKAdrian,

KitchenDraw uses a DirectX viewport for design and interactive viewing and operations. For best performance in the viewport, you will want a Intel Haswell CPU with the highest possible clock speeds and a few cores.

KitchenDraw uses a CPU based export renderer for photo-realistic export rendering. This can use many CPU cores, but does not use the GPU. Best performance here will be from the highest core count X speed of haswell CPU's you can allocate to the job.

Before moving forward, I would advise contacting the makers of kitchendraw to see if they support network/cloud/distributed rendering. If they do, then you should build 2 or more separate machines for best results, 1 dedicated to viewport performance, and another (or several ) render nodes. If not, you should ask how many cores the export renderer can scale to, and whether or not it can scale across multiple CPU SOCKETS within the same system.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Depends on the program and how it's handling the rendering. Most CAD programs that I have seen are single-threaded for everything but rendering, with rendering being the one area they branch out and have multi-threaded abilities and use a video card as an accelerator. As such, we'd need to know the exact program to be able to give you any meaningful part answers.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Budget, too! "A lot" is pretty vague.

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

Shh... If they're calling for the best and state the budget is "a lot", then I get to suggest any thing that's really powerful, like this. Then, when they say "I can't afford that!", I get to point that out! :P

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

You mean a build like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Xeon E5-2699 V3 2.3GHz 18-Core OEM/Tray Processor $3966.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Intel Xeon E5-2699 V3 2.3GHz 18-Core OEM/Tray Processor $3966.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Enermax Liqtech 120X 111.0 CFM Ball Bearing Liquid CPU Cooler $79.98 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Enermax Liqtech 120X 111.0 CFM Ball Bearing Liquid CPU Cooler $79.98 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus Z10PE-D16 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Motherboard $489.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Kingston 64GB (4 x 16GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $648.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Kingston 64GB (4 x 16GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $648.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $341.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $341.99 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB HYBRID Video Card (3-Way SLI) $1036.47 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB HYBRID Video Card (3-Way SLI) $1036.47 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB HYBRID Video Card (3-Way SLI) $1036.47 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Enthoo Primo ATX Full Tower Case $234.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA T2 1600W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $392.99 @ SuperBiiz
Optical Drive Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $70.40 @ Amazon
Optical Drive Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $70.40 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer XB280HK 60Hz 28.0" Monitor $696.47 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer XB280HK 60Hz 28.0" Monitor $696.47 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer XB280HK 60Hz 28.0" Monitor $696.47 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $169.99 @ Newegg
Mouse Corsair Sabre Wired Optical Mouse $88.63 @ Amazon
Headphones Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset $99.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $16892.10
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I mean at the consumer level you won't get much better than that.

Every thing fits in the case with no problems. Even all the water coolers will fit with no issues.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Probably with FirePro W9100's since they have more DP FLOPS for a (relatively) small hit to SP FLOPS over the Titan X.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Name 1 piece of CAD software that can take advantage of all those CPU's and GPU's.

Good luck.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Just one is a bit tricky depending on how much you consider "take advantage of" to mean (just access them, spread the load to all the threads/GPUs, max out load on everything...), but for someone doing complex work, they'd be using multiple programs, not just one, so while Program A might focus on the CPUs, Program B might focus on the GPUs...

Pulling into the "it will eventually happen as they're researching it now" field, Finite Element Analysis, of which Finite Element Modelers would most likely fall under Computer Aided Design tools, is on the path to being able to use both CPU and GPU compute resources: http://gpgpu.org/tag/finite-element-methods
Right now, at least some (should be most if not all, but I can't check them all...) FEA programs can use multiple threads to do the computation work; there have even been some events discussing this: http://www.isc-events.com/isc08/content/e2/e10/e22/e1671/e2931/index_eng.html
Expanding those calculations to be done on a GPU is still a work in progress, but it will get there.

As for "traditional" CAD programs like AutoCAD, they're still a bit behind the times... AutoCAD only goes multi-threaded for rendering and can use some GPU acceleration. Not a big deal, but still uses them both... Probably have to be modeling and rendering an entire city to really stress that setup though...

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

You need the D16 board! It costs less but it has 16 RAM slots instead of 8 :D

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea, but only 3-way SLI/XFire... Using the D8 and you can get quad setups! Or, go with the Asus X99-E WS motherboard and get something like a 20 Titan Z's on it... http://news.softpedia.com/news/ASUS-X99-E-WS-Motherboard-Runs-Both-Core-and-Xeon-CPUs-Outfitted-with-115-200-CUDA-Cores-457954.shtml

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Well Im impressed straight away. The software I use is called Kitchendraw, if it help the software has details like "use direct X instead of openGL"

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

... Wow, what a specialty software... Seriously, I've found their site and the only info I've been able to find is their FAQ, which only barely covers the hardware questions I have and I didn't see that "use direct X instead of openGL" bit anywhere...
My usual backup of searching the web has failed completely since it's so specialty, it seems no one else has really bought up these questions, so I'm getting generic "how to test for GPU usage" and "multicore usage" and of course, "door design ideas"...

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

We having some fun. No that $17k system is just for fun.

After looking at what little info I could find, you should be fine with a basic setup and add parts later more suited. Things like professional gpu's would help. I don't know much about those and won't recommend 1 for fear of it being the wrong brand/vendor/version/type. The Xeon 1231v3 (4cores/8 threads) should suit you fine.Since the Xeon isn't overclockable the 212 cooler will work fine without being to loud. H97 board in case you wan't to use a broadwell cpu later. 2x8 gb 2133 ram should be more than fast and enough. The gpu? I chose AMD 390x but a 980 may be suitable also. There prices aren't that far apart. Gold psu maybe overkill but it will be useful if your doing a ton of rendering. 2 ssd's. The 850 is for the OS and all the main programs the other is the slush drive. Do the rendering on that.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $242.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $26.99 @ NCIX US
Motherboard MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $76.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory $109.99 @ Newegg
Storage OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $89.00 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $97.95 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $52.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card $429.98 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $62.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply XFX TS 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ NCIX US
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1299.35
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-21 00:18 EDT-0400
  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Something like this if you have no budget >:)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Xeon E5-2699 V3 2.3GHz 18-Core OEM/Tray Processor $3966.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Intel Xeon E5-2699 V3 2.3GHz 18-Core OEM/Tray Processor $3966.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 99.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $131.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 99.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $131.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus Z10PE-D16 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Motherboard $489.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Memory Crucial 32GB (1 x 32GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory $595.98 @ Directron
Storage OCZ R4 1.2TB PCI-E Solid State Drive $7399.99 @ Directron
Storage OCZ R4 1.2TB PCI-E Solid State Drive $7399.99 @ Directron
Storage Intel DC S3710 1.2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $1799.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Intel DC S3710 1.2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $1799.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Intel DC S3710 1.2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $1799.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Intel DC S3710 1.2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $1799.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Intel DC S3710 1.2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $1799.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Intel DC S3710 1.2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $1799.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Intel DC S3710 1.2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $1799.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Intel DC S3710 1.2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $1799.99 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card AMD FirePro W9100 16GB Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) $2998.99 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card AMD FirePro W9100 16GB Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) $2998.99 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card AMD FirePro W9100 16GB Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) $2998.99 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card AMD FirePro W9100 16GB Video Card (4-Way CrossFire) $2998.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case $149.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $18.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro OEM (64-bit) $131.59 @ OutletPC
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Monitor Panasonic EJMDA32UK 60Hz 32.0" Monitor $8390.11 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $210741.94
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-22 06:43 EDT-0400

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