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What kind of CPU should I get?

Spotted-Hyena
  • 1 month ago

I think my current CPU is suffering. I'm going to try cleaning it out but I'm unsure as to what I should get should that not fix the problem. I currently have an i5-6500 and at the moment, running only Civ 6 and Steam and Discord just brings it way past 100%. I have also noticed a bit of a slowdown for other things as this CPU is almost 4 years old now. I was thinking of an i7-6700 (my mobo seemingly only supports 6th gen according to pcpartpicker, it's a MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard) or, if for some reason that won't be ok, another i5-6500. If I get Ryzen, I believe I'll have to swap out my motherboard and potentially my RAM as well which would exponentially increase the cost. Any suggestions?

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  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Well what kind of budget do you have at your disposal assuming you would be willing to do a major overhaul if not entirely new build. Things like storage,casing,optical drive...might be re-used. And I bet that CPU and motherboard and whichever RAM of yours have,can net you couple of hundred dollars or so. Selling whichever CPU cooling solution you have might be worth of consideration as well if going Ryzen.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I have about 750, give or take.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

So CPU,Motherboard and RAM aside,what are the rest of components you have?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
Motherboard MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard -
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $76.59 @ Amazon
Storage PNY CS1311 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $44.54 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.08 @ Amazon
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card $799.00 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case $99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ B&H
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.89 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.99 @ B&H
Monitor Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $234.98 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1539.05
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 14:09 EST-0500
  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

You could do this, for making the jump to a newer platform and with the remaining money you could upgrade to a better GPU as well.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $178.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $20.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory Purchased For $0.00
Storage PNY CS1311 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case Purchased For $0.00
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer Purchased For $0.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit Purchased For $0.00
Monitor Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor Purchased For $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $314.87
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 14:16 EST-0500

With a GPU upgrade...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $178.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $20.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory Purchased For $0.00
Storage PNY CS1311 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $409.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case Purchased For $0.00
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer Purchased For $0.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit Purchased For $0.00
Monitor Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor Purchased For $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $724.86
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 14:19 EST-0500
  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

One caveat. The OEM version of Windows is tied to the motherboard. He would have to buy a new version, so add $99.99 to the build cost

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  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

Sorry I completely forgot.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $492.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler $74.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $189.99 @ B&H
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $75.98 @ Amazon
Storage PNY CS1311 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $44.99 @ Best Buy
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.08 @ Amazon
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card $799.00 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case $99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ B&H
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.89 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.99 @ B&H
Monitor Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $236.00 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2297.69
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-25 22:58 EST-0500

IF you don't find a way to make your OEM Windows work on new MBO and you cannot stretch your budget by 100$ more,throw out Dark Rock 4 cooler.

Since you have a DDR4 RAM, it wasn't necessary to replace it. So keep it. Also you have still a VERY good GPU. Excellent perhaps even. Your GTX 1070,is the equivalent of 1660Ti,so keep it for now.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

If the BIOS is updated then 7th gen will work as well, so 6700/6700K/7700/7700K.

If your paying much more then $150usd though you're better off grabbing a 1600 "AF" model and a motherboard updated to a later BIOS version.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Get a Ryzen 5 3600 and an MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max or for mATX, the MSI B450 Pro-VDH Max. Use the remaining money to get a 5700 XT. Don't get an X570 motherboard as it is a waste of money for Ryzen CPUs below the 3900X.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

really depends if he needs PCIe gen 4 or if he plans to OC anything. the x570 has the power delivery to handle overclocking, but based on the specs he provided i dont see him doing either. but technically you could run a 3900x on a b450 just fine, it just depends what you want to do with it

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

B450 can also handle OC. True that you can, but if you have the money for the 3900X you might want even better VRMs than B450 and other hardware that could help. Also, OCing most Ryzen proves pointless with little to no performance gains.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

agreed

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

hold on a min here

the Z170 has support for the 7th Gen i Cores CPU

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-KRAIT-GAMING-3X

Ver 2.7 BIOS onwards supports the next gen CPU which means it supports the 7th Gen i Core i7-7700/k

also Z170 is already on the DDR4 platform, so i see no reason to buy new RAM

I have upgraded my buddy's Acer desktop from the i5 6500 to the i7 7700 as well and the mobo was a B150.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

So I should just buy an i7? Is it worth it buying an i7-7700k if I don't know how/want to overclock?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

For $300plus used I would take a hard pass on the 7700K. Not much is gained by moving from a 4 core i5 to a 4 core i7. Run some benchmarks on this i5, it is an old chip but by no means a slow chip.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

get the i7-7700 non K

they will be cheaper than the K part

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

You can use the same MOBO with a newer Intel CPU if PCPP says they are compatible. If you switch to Ryzen or any AMD CPU you will have to get a new MOBO. Also, be aware that Windows' keys are locked to the MOBO so if you do get a new one and are using Windows you will need a new key.

Now unless if you are planning to downgrade your CPU (which you aren't) you can keep your current RAM. Any modern MOBO will support DDR4 RAM so you don't need to worry about that. Now an older MOBO would need DDR3 but there's no reason why you would be purchasing one of those.

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

What do you mean "you are going to try cleaning out" your CPU? Or are you cleaning your PC? Also, were you able to stream and play Civ 6 before ? Be patient....... How much memory do you have (how many sticks, how many GB per stick ?

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