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First Build, would like some help. Thanks

WoD-Gamer

2 months ago

Hey

Have always played computer, but I've never built a PC before. To be honest, my brain swirled around when doing the research. I think I have a solid part list, but would like comments and suggestions to help me further (as it is with the first attempt, I continue to doubt my choices).

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Csvn7

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($357.95) CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.99) Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.89) Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($169.99) Storage: Corsair MP510 240 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($43.99) Storage: Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($124.99) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($409.99) Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.89)

Total: $1531.68

What i would like to get as a end resault is a computer i can use for open world games (would like to play VR at some point) as well as CAD design and simulations. budget i would say around 1500$, with out case (maybe designing/making my own or the Corsair Crystal 680X)

Some Noob questions:

I see alot of builds in here that dont have a CPU Cooler, is it needed for this type of build or is it only for higher spec builds?

GPU, there are so many version of them.... the reason i picked the Super was that it has 8g and the other versions got 6g, but is it worth the price difference?

I picked rtx 2060s and had a plan to upgrade to 2 of those and 64gb ram later on, but looks like you cant run them linked, or have i misunderstanded somthing?? if you cant is the rtx 2070 worth the much higher price?

Tanks alot for your time and response.

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I see alot of builds in here that dont have a CPU Cooler, is it needed for this type of build or is it only for higher spec builds?

All builds require a CPU cooler. Some may stick with stock coolers which are usually bundled-in with the CPU. Others will look for aftermarket solutions (air coolers/AIOs) for more effective and quieter operations or beefier options (the premium range) for overclocking purposes.

If you're running the 9700K at stock (not overclocking), a $35/$40 air cooler will do the job nicely. $45-$55 for a beefier unit which runs super quiet. Anything beyond that is purely down to preference.

GPU, there are so many version of them.... the reason i picked the Super was that it has 8g and the other versions got 6g, but is it worth the price difference?

6GB VRAM is sufficient for 1080p gaming. 8GB VRAM adds a little better headroom for higher resolution gaming. The price difference doesn't only account for VRAM but performance in general, with a 10-12% performance gain. Overall it is the better card and in a GPU-cost-rampant market, $60/$70 is not all that bad for some added performance.

is the rtx 2070 worth the much higher price?

This ones purely down to your performance goals. If you are targeting a higher resolution display with the likes of 1440p/4K, the better the card the better the performance. For 1080p an RTX 2060 SUPER delivers excellent performance anything above would be in favour of higher FPS (20% or so).

Same applies with GPU hardware rendering for CAD DES/SIM. A higher end card delivers considerably faster 3D design render and smoother transitioning of super complex designs (more aiming towards enterprise engineering workstation job-lots). If you're just having a crack at CAD for some basics, you the RTX 2060 SUPER is more than sufficient.

I picked rtx 2060s and had a plan to upgrade to 2 of those

For gaming a SLI/NV-LINK arrangement doesn't offer much benefit. Nvidia ceased support. Game devs aren't bothering much. Where it does work, performance discrepancies are constant, driver crashes are common and not much is being done in favour of SLI. Bottom line, for gaming, stick with one card!

For CAD, keep in mind the 2060 SUPER does not support SLI/NV-LINK. It's supported on the RTX 2070 SUPER.

and 64gb ram later on

For gaming you don't need more than 16GB

For CAD - you'd probably need a super weighty data-pitched file size with some ferociously complex design elements to demand 64GB. Generally most CAD applications only require 8GB of RAM for basic concepts, 16GB for more advanced 3D modelling, 32GB for more complex engineering samples and 64GB for similarly specialised workloads with uncommon gaping file sizes or running several simulations simultaneously. This ones down to user-requirement.


As a side note, i'd grab a Ryzen 3700X which is closely knit to the i7-9700K's stock single threaded performance but more rewardingly - enables SMT for 30%+ advances in multi-threaded workloads. If overclocking gains are part-n-parcel with the builds requirement, this would favour intel for it's OC-headroom - otherwise the more long-term effective 3700X takes the win for me, with a solid platform for other upgrade possibilities with Ryzen 4000 series (should it come to that) + PCI 4.0 for more higher I/O expanding possibilities (keeping SLI in mind too).

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for all the answers :)

Dont think i will need 64GB of RAM, based on what you say i think i would like 32GB. What is best 2x16 or is 4x8 better?

I will go for the Ryzen 7 3700x. Is the stock cooler good enough?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Dont think i will need 64GB of RAM, based on what you say i think i would like 32GB. What is best 2x16 or is 4x8 better?

Both combinations work well. The preference being 2x16GB on a consumer 4-dimm slot motherboard. More efficient + keeps 2 slots vacant for prospective upgrades.

For gaming, oddly enough, the 2x16GB solution in a handful of games delivers a nice push of 5-8% FPS and in a quad arrangement other handful of titles see 3-6% better performance. Most games see very little difference between the 2 options hence it doesn't really matter either way.

I will go for the Ryzen 7 3700x. Is the stock cooler good enough?

Definitely good enough! User preference may be more inclined to something that runs quieter at full load and may eventually opt for a beefier unit. Stick with the stock cooler and give it a shot! Upgrading later (if desired) is super easy and doesn't require build disassembly. As an added bonus, if you like RGB, the stock Wraith Prism delivers that too (if interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBQ1RUeV_oo)

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

About those Ryzen parts list warnings: the Ryzen 3000 series needs a BIOS update for some older boards to run. There are some B450's, the MSI Max series and the Asrock B450/AC, that are guaranteed Ryzen 3000 ready out of the box; unfortunately, pcpartpicker doesn't know that. There are also a handful of B450's that can get a BIOS update without a CPU; I think they are all MSI boards, although I don't have a list at hand.

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey

I did look into Ryzen since i love the idea that they challenge Intel, scared me when i picked parts there showed some warnings xD. i like the idea of a 2080, but will the other part keep up with it? (i know nothing like john snow).

thanks for the help :)

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

You can buy a 2080 Super for less than that card with much better performance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qHNgXL/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-xc-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-3182-kr

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

so single gpu is better than dual?

Thanks for the reply

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Single.

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  • 2 months ago
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I better keep it at this budget, already gone from 1200$ to 1500$ haha, just reading about all this is awesome and realy makes you think. i dont think i will be doing any overclocking, bit scared of it ;P z390 is the top chip set for intel right? but what is top chip set for ryzen? is that b450?

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