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I use the machine for home and work. Occasionally I take it out of the office to conventions or LAN Gaming.

It weighs a ton. It started out being just a processor upgrade and then turned into building a new PC.

The only issues that I ran into are: one video card not working, both the LAMPTRON Controller LCD's failed, and the Rosewill PSU was defective. I also had to build custom mounts for the heatsink from scratch.

If someone tells you they can fit a Switftech Apogge XL on an ASUS ROG Crosshair Formula Z and they don't have pictures then they are making it up. I found no one who had tried this combination and Swiftech even said they didn't have the motherboard to try it.

Note: This isn't my first watercooling build. I have done a few since 2008. Those fittings add up.

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  • 61 months ago
  • 10 points

This computer is consuming more electricity in one day then an Africa village consumes in 3 years.

  • 59 months ago
  • 10 points

s for nvidia's claim to fame, power usage,well...

According to guru3d.com, the 290x has a TDP of 286w and the 980 has 171w TDP while 3D gaming. The average price of a KwHr of electricity in the United States as of February 2015 (the most recent figures available that are provided by the govwrnment) is $0.125 (12.5 cents). If we assume a gamer is playing four hours per day, every single day of the year, the 290x will cost approximately $52/year, while the 980 will cost approximately $31/year. [This is determined simply by ((TDPCost of Electricty)Hours per day)*365 days per year = annual cost of electricity]. In the end, this means that the 290x only costs $1.75/month more than the 980. With the current price of the 290x on newegg being around $280 and the price of the 980 at it's cheapest being $540, that means that you would have to use the 290x for 5.09 years to have the extra electricty use cost you as much as the purchase price of a 980. To put it another way, with both cards being used the same amount every year, it would take 12.38 years for the increased power use of the 290x to overtake the 980 in overall cost (initial purchase price + electricity use). After reviewing the math, it makes me wonder why vocal and aggresive nvidia fans always bring up and place such emphasis on the lower TDP of maxwell architecture vs. amd cards (hawaii) when, although being lower, it has such a negligable effect on overall cost that it might as well be completely discounted. 99.9% of users, especially those in the top tier GPU market will not own a video card for 12 years, and the vast majority will not even own it for 5 years, so they'll never be able to reap any tangible benefit from the lower power usage.

  • 57 months ago
  • -2 points

i dont think you understand the concept of a joke

  • 55 months ago
  • 2 points

the best joles have an element of truth in them, that's probably why this one isn't funny at all. Besides, let's not act naive, this was a joke by an nvidia fanboy at AMD's expense, I'm sure he's never made jokes about his beloved nvidia.

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  • 59 months ago
  • 5 points

For those that like to over embellish amd's power usage, I actually did the math to see if this was true:

We'll use the 295x2 at 630 watts vs a Titan X SLI setup at 530 watts, two GPU's vs two GPU's, as it's only fair. In the U.S., the national average price of a KwHr is $0.125 or 12.5 cents. Let's say that we are gaming on both setups four hours per day, 365 days per year. At that usage, the 295x2 will cost $114.98/year while the Titan X SLI will cost $96.73/year. That means that the 295x2 will cost $1.52/month more than the two Nvidia GPU's...wow, that maxwell architecture is really going to save me a ton of money. Let's take it further, consider total cost of ownership (initial purchase price + electrical use) and it will take approximately 76.71 years for the 295x2 (at $600 purchase price and $114.98/yr for electricity) to cost as much as the Titan X SLI ($2000 purchase price and $96.73/yr for electricity), or another way of saying it is that it will take 76.71 years for the efficiency of the Titan X to have a tangible financial savings over the 295x2. I'm not an AMD fanboy, I'm a fan of the truth, and I'm tired of overly aggressivet nvidia fanboys always resting on the crutch of "power usuage", moreso when they're beat on performance. The math obviously shows that while nvidia cards are technically more efficient, this will have absolutely no substantive effect on your wallet. So, if the efficiency of maxwell architecture has no effect your wallet, what's the point of bragging about it? Obviously anyone that knows math will see that I could even throw in a 1000w gold rated corsair PSU from newegg for $169 in the cost of the 295x2 and it would still take 67 years for the combined cost of the 295x2, the 1000w PSU and the electrical use to overtake the Titan X SLI. So, if simply sitting down and doing the math shows AMD doesn't really cost more on you electric bill, I guess that means that all the people saying it will cost a lot never actually checked to see if was actually true.

  • 54 months ago
  • 4 points

If you use solar then that bill doesn't matter lol.

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  • 64 months ago
  • 4 points

this is what dreams are made of

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

That's a monster of a build O_o

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

great build +1 how did you overcome the cpu cooler problem then?

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

I made a custom mount for the CPU out of sheetmetal.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

What was the cause of the problem? Jw because I was just about to order one of those for the same mobo

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Basically Swiftech decided to use some dumb attachment system to get their cooler to fit on an AMD board since the default mount is for Intel. So I ended up ditching their mount and making my own. You can see the issue in this set of pics.

http://deneteus.smugmug.com/Computers/Swiftech-Apogee-XL-FAIL/i-TwBHW25/0/X2/IMG_0760-X2.jpg

http://deneteus.smugmug.com/Computers/Swiftech-Apogee-XL-FAIL/i-C6Sw7nS

Solution:

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10357454_10152137539531010_619057349022336704_n.jpg?oh=a2f5bb227e76035cf259007cd888fbc9&oe=54F91D59

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow lol yea I think ill steer clear.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Have you tried a oc on the 9590

  • 63 months ago
  • 1 point

I did but I need some better ram.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

More pictures of this monster would be awesome.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

I want to do a desk pic but my office is starting to look like a data center. I have 2 other machines in here.

  • 45 months ago
  • 2 points

No matter what the brand on those parts are.... I can't afford it

nice build btw :) +1

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

HOLY CRAP!!!!

  • 63 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm looking at the last picture of this build... is that the normal/recommended amount of thermal grease to use? If so... I've been doing it wrong.

  • 63 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes. I used some examples from their instructions and watch some videos to make sure it wasn't too little. What happens is it dries our real quick if the layer is too thin.

  • 63 months ago
  • 1 point

More pics of the completed setup please

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I just switched out the PSU for the Corsair AX1500i.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

why you didn't go for Raid 0?

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm waiting for prices to drop on the 850s.

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

DREAMS!

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

I truly love your build and I have a question if you do not mind.

When setting the fans up in the 'basement', how do you have them set?? Exhausts, intake or both?? I ask because I am wanting to build using this case and I have yet to see or understand how having that many fans in the basement helps. Would you be willing to help a fellow builder out?

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

Well normally you set it up so that you have enough fans to exhause the heat and it helps to have them going out the case otherwise the intake air will be hot.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

That is a silly amoint of thermal paste. A pea sozed dot im the middle is all you need.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

You say that until it dries up and stops working and then you have to take it all apart again. The amount I have is fine. As thin a layer as possible. Also that pic wasn't the final amount. I used a credit card to take off any excess because its supposed to be flat. None of it was on the sides when I was done. Also do you know what sizes peas come in?

  • 27 months ago
  • 1 point

You ever think of selling those cards? They're worth a ton of money right now...

  • 23 months ago
  • 1 point

liking that midiboard! dope build, share a link if u post any of ur recorded music :-)

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice setup but why 5 monitors

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

I was working construction estimation software support. Most of them used 3-4 monitors. I had all my phone and queue monitoring on one.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

ok wow

  • 51 months ago
  • -3 points

Also comes with extreme bottleneck

  • 50 months ago
  • 1 point

Works just fine for me. :)

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  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

It would if you didn't also work with Construction Estimation Software, besides the Audio Recording and Gaming. I use this PC 24hrs a day.

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