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Edit: Price is for the entire setup including a 4k TV and Oculus Rift. Rig cost is closer to $2,500. Originally listed with an 8600, non-K SKU, I screwed up my part list while starting this thing from my phone. :( My apologies. But, just to address a few justified concerns about it. I originally had a 4790k/GTX 970. A couple of years back I upgraded to an 8600k/1070 Ti combo. Sounds more reasonable, yea? So once the 2080 Ti's launched I happened into the funds (this whole thing has been pieced together over the years so none of this was bought at a single time) and pulled the trigger. When I moved to the 2080 Ti I thought about upgrading the CPU, but ultimately decided to wait on a 10th gen i7/9 since I had just dropped so much coin on a new GPU. So it was either a new GPU, custom waterloop and wait a year or so for new CPU, or upgrade both and watercool later. I decided the EKWB parts (excluding the CPU block) would all carry over if I upgraded the CPU later anyway, but if I upgraded the CPU now I would be potentially be stuck on an "old" platform/socket/chipset once the 10th gen CPU's launched. This way I'll deal with a "lower-end" CPU for a while and get everything on water as fast as possible. I think I made the right choice. Anyway, back to the original post...

As much of a meme as RGB lighting has become I still love it since you can really customize and change the look over time. I went for a black/silver/white build, as color-neutral as I could, so that the lighting will have plenty of material to play off should I change the color scheme down the road. I'm a big fan of the vaporwave/cyberpunk aesthetic if you couldn't tell. :P

The biggest challenge with this build was unsurprisingly the space constraints of the Fractal Design Nano S. Not that it's the case's fault, but running 2 rads (360mm total), thick 3/8 - 5/8 soft tubes, a D5 pump/res combo, ATX PSU, and a full-sized GPU was a tight squeeze for a <27 liter case. But that's also my favorite thing about this build. Other than not being able to fit two 240mm radiators, I really didn't have to make many sacrifices to fit "big boy" parts in my favorite ITX case.

Temps aren't amazing with a single 120 rad in the rear, a 240mm in the front (both as exhaust), and 120mm fans on top and bottom as intake, but significantly better than what I was getting with a single 120 AIO CPU cooler and the original blower fan of the Asus 2080 Ti Turbo. I was able to push the card a bit more than what's shown in the HWMon screenshot once I finally cleared those stubborn air pockets from the rads.

Personally, I struck the balance I wanted between form and function. Definitely heavy on the form side (like running all the rad fans in exhaust cause RGB), but with the performance that I would expect for the hardware. Sure I could get better performance bumps here and there with different orientations, but any additional gains would not outweigh my vain need for aesthetics. I mean, it's a $5,000+ setup, it better look killer.

Comments

  • 3 months ago
  • 12 points

Great looking build! If you don't mind me asking, why did you go for the 8600? Why not the 8600k? I feel like the custom loop is kinda a waste since the cpu doesn't really need it.

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

Oops, that's a mistake on my part list. It is the 8600k.

  • 3 months ago
  • 8 points

It looks fantastic but when you go all out the i5 8600 confuses me. Though with that incredible setup you cannot complain it's just interesting because most people will spend absurd amount of money on specs they dont need. Atleast all of this makes sense. And is an insane room the look upon. I hope one day I'll be able to accomplish something that flashy,

  • 3 months ago
  • 5 points

right? the i5 threw me off too

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

It's actually an 8600k, screwed up the parts list. I bought that when I upgraded from a GTX 970 to 1070 Ti. After buying the 2080 Ti last year I decided to wait on a 10th gen i7 instead. So it'll be getting replaced next year if the 2020 10th gen rumors are correct.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

From the rumors I've seen, 10th gen doesn't look too good

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Yea, I've been bummed by the recent discussions around it. Just cram more into an existing architecture seems to be Intel's current motto.

I when I was making that decision it was around the time third gen Ryzen stuff was sounding super hot. Being naive I thought, "oh yea, Intel's gonna pull something good." Not sure why I would ever think that's the case. :[

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah ok because I was thinking wtf when I first saw that.

  • 3 months ago
  • 6 points

A E S T H E T I C

Is right my guy

  • 3 months ago
  • 6 points

2080 ti

8600

bruh moment

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

8600 is fine for the 2080ti, especially at 1440p

  • 3 months ago
  • -1 points

The hell no that is a horrible combo

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

It's actually an 8600k, screwed up the part list. I should have probably added this to the build notes, but it was added a while back when I went from a 4790k/GTX 970 to 8600k/1070 Ti. So it wasn't bought to go with the 2080 Ti. I decided to wait for 10th gen i7/9 so it'll get upgraded once those launch.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

no, It's a prefectly fine combo, it's not like he paired it with a 2600k, and even then, an overclocked 2600k can perform like a ryzen 7 2700.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I am still fairly new to the whole pc world but that statement right there is suspect asf a 4/8 performing like a 8/16 come on man you gotta do the math there

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Cores do not always equal performance, It's more about the single threaded performance that games care about, once the 2600k is overclocked, the single threaded performance is almost equivalent, not to say that in games WHERE the extra cores can be utilized that the ryzen won't perform better, but in games that only utilize a low amount of cores (which is the majority of modern games), they perform near each other. Now, on the fact of the 8600k, it will bottleneck the 2080ti, but so will an 8700k, 9600k, 9700k, 3600, 3700x, 3900x, 9900k, or anything else you could think of will bottleneck it to some extent, but it won't bottleneck it badly, and it'll still perform well.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

It's actually an 8600k, and the timing of upgrading I decided to hold off and wait until a 10th gen i7 launches. It's definitely not a bottleneck, just a preference on timing.

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

I could stare at that first picture all day 😍

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

+1 First off, congrats on the feature. It's always a pleasant (and somehow quite frequent) surprise when a build is featured that is just CLEAN. As I'm sure you've noticed, this particular comment section is rife with questions of "why not the K version????". I'll be honest, I'm a little curious too, but I'm going to assume it's because of thermal reasons :) I mean, this is a HOTTM little build!

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

It is the K, I screwed up my part list. sigh

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Very nice build. +1 for the vaporware/cyberpunk aesthetic! Are you a fan of synthwave too? :)

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

I love all the waves. 🥰

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome!

If I may make a suggestion, your waterloop order should go like, pump/res -> gpu -> rear 120 rad -> cpu -> front 240 rad -> back to pump/res.

Again, nice build!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I know that sounds like the correct order, but I've seen a million posts/videos online showing that once the loop temp equalizes order doesn't matter and only makes ~1-2°C difference which is basically margin of error.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

It's great, I think we all love it... but there is some serious confusion about your 8600 choice here. For a 2080ti and your choice in resolution, an i7 (or i9 - but keeping it relative to your z370 mobo) would serve you better. Even a locked i7 would be okay, and your temps would be somewhere in the negative degree range lol. I also don't understand the 3440x1440 @ 60Hz... I like the monitor setup and everything else overall is an awesome job, but I would want that beastly resolution to be my main game monitor at have GSync. Cost of that Alienware (Dell) monitor is only a little more monies. Did you get that monitor when the "Alienware" was over $1k? Cuz that wasn't that long ago, and I think the one you have is around $500 now. Hell, when I bought my dell 2560x1080 is was $500. So... not knockin your build here dude... it's great... just some questions about the monitor setup and the 8600. Do you plan on upgrading that 8600? I mean, for your build, that would be an easy task (aside from draining all your liquid).

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

It's actually an 8600k, but I upgraded it when I went from a 4790k and GTX 970 to 8600k and 1070 Ti. So it made a better combo then. I happened into the funds for the 2080 Ti, but decided to wait for a 10th gen i7 and hold onto the 8600k for a while longer. As for the monitor, that ultrawide is only there for work. When I game I switch over to the 2716DG Gsync monitor.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

LOL. Amazing how such a simple mistake can get so much feedback. I have a 6700k that is still holding up and I plan on waiting until the next batch of CPU's/GPU's as well. Personally, I like your build because it's in one of the best cases the PC World will ever seen. I have a Define S, but it would be nice to see a Define S Nano refresh with tempered glass. I just don't like the entire side being tempered glass. A little bit of a lip gives a perfect spot for the lighting to spread evenly throughout the case, IMHO. It's how I mounted mine. I had given thought to replacing the plastic window with a glas sone, but it's just not worth the hassle. Mine has one scratch after almost 4 years. Anyways, solid build.

I did notice something about your fans though. Are they all exhaust except the bottom one? You definitely should turn those front ones around so they are intake as well. I have mine set up to front intake and rear exhaust, and I have the top closed. Your setup is pretty weird for fans... and not optimal. Push the cooler air in it's natural direction, from the bottom and fronts, to the top and back of the case. I don't think anyone has noticed this yet, but you are certainly getting negative pressure in your configuration, and tons of recirculation as well. You honestly don't need that top fan at all either. It'll look just fine with proper air flow directions. Better even. Plus, you could remove the top fan and put another RGB fan at the bottom for intake with your fronts being intake as well. Trust me here. You want that airflow setup correctly, and I promise it will look just as good.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

There are intake fans on both the top and bottom. I know the front should be intake instead, but I really wanted them as exhaust. I wasn't able to fully test it, ambient temps were vastly different when I was setting it up, but I only saw <10°C difference. I should have measured ambient and measured temp delta over ambient but I was more concerned about leaks and whatnot since this was my first open loop.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

But I also agree, Fractal's Define series cases is the absolute best case I've ever used. Had a Define S before this and used it for my son's current build. There's a suggestion thing in Fractal's website, I suggested a tempered glass/ Nano S Refresh a while back. Maybe if we get enough people posting about it they'll consider. fingers crossed

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

dem angles!!! I love it!!!! (BTW i had a dream setup simial to yours.)

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Its not a gamin PC if it got no RGB. And you absolutely NAILED it. And those are some professional looking shots you took there.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! Portrait mode on my Pixel 3 is the real professional. :)

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Love this build! The best part about this build is your photographic skills, alongside the color scheme as well :P

+1 From me

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Pixel 3 Portrait mode ftw.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Holy f, beautiful. Captures the retrowave perfectly. You might be able to reduce temps slightly if you switch to a more efficient PSU maybe. Going to keep your lighting colours in mind for mine. I'd probably commit crimes to have a monitor setup like that.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

sniffs i'm just here staring at it, with my empty wallet. Wish i had the money to build something like that, but at the same time this is just for show. Good job! :(

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

very beautiful, just wondering about the fan config it looks like they are all exhaust am i wrong???

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

The top and bottom fans are intake.

  • 3 months ago
  • 0 points

That is terrible air flow.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

by the way i am talking about the corsair fans not the stock fan at the bottom

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Top slim Silverstone and bottom stock Corsair fan are the only intake yeah. It's part of that form over function sacrifice I made. I really wanted those LL120's to be shown off.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Really not a good idea.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Impressive!! love the space mangement, Great choices on the color scheme. And those pictures are top shelf . as for your choices- YOU DO YOU BRUTHA. Your right .... for 5 large she better look pimp!!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Man, I really struggled with space constraints on this thing FOR SURE. I spent month checking out build videos, dimensions, etc. A lot of sweat and frustration went into getting this thing where it is. I'm somewhat disappointed in some of the tubing runs, but overall I don't think I could do much better than this. I definitely was stubborn on loop order and orientation, but I need to make some revisions later on. Extending some tubes, shortening others...

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Woah that's some professional photos. Did you take it yourself?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yep, Pixel 3 portrait mode really makes it easy. Just shove your phone in there and tinker with the focus.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

When you miss one character in your part list and your entire comment section is filled with questions on the CPU XD

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea, I get it though. Even the 8600k isn't the best pair for a 2080 Ti and an expensive build. What I failed to mention was how this thing was slowly built over time and basically no two parts were added at the same time. Just decided to upgrade the CPU last, probably should have held onto this post until then, but once the custom water loop was added I couldn't not share. :)

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

I mean, I feel like people usually overestimate the importance of the CPU in a build. Though a 8600k paired with a 2080 ti might be stretching it, I don't think your build is overly bottlenecked by the CPU, unless your usual workload requires a lot of threads. If you're simply gaming, I personally think a 8600k is fine and only slightly underperforms when paired with the 2080 ti.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

looks fantastic

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Words cannot describe how beautiful this build is. Trust me, this build certainly is killer!

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey, just wanted to say that this build is sick. Also, if I had the money I would totally make it. such an inspiration

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

What a beast of a pc....

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Dang. Nice job

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

How is there no bottleneck

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks fantastic!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

How hard is it to maintain this thing?

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Well I've only had this particular setup for a month or so, and is my first foray into custom water cooling. But so far not too bad. It's a pain to drain since I didn't put the valve under my GPU (which is probably my next update once I upgrade the CPU). It's not terrible though being an ITX case so I can easily turn it upside down and whatnot to get everything out.

I tore down all the watercooling parts before assembly to clean and get familiar with it before I eventually have to deep clean in the future. I'm probably only going to use colored coolant for the first year or so, just because it's new, but with treated distilled water I don't expect this thing to be too much of a hassle to flush every 6mo-1yr.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

T H I S I S A M A Z I N G

+1

Did you put LL120s on the radiator?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea, there a 120mm rad on the back and 240mm on the front. LL120's on both as exhaust, which wasn't my intended orientation, but I liked the look and threw a 120mm fan on the top and bottom as intake.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I see that you went with an 8600. Any reason for that particular part?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

It's actually an 8600k. Bought it when I upgraded my 4790k/GTX 970 to 8600k/1070 Ti. Decided to hold off on CPU upgrade for the time and wait for 10th gen i7/9.

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

happy computer noises

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I am going to say the same thing as everyone else here: im a tad bit confused on the CPU/GPU pairing. while it is true that at high resolution gaming (ultrawide 1440, 4K, etc) you wont have much issue with CPU bottlenecking anything, I also have to say that in CPU demanding titles, you may run into issues. second reason is that you have a 1440p 144hz monitor. if you were thinking you'd be able to play games well at high refresh rate, you may also have issues with that at some points. The biggest issue for me is that you only managed the i5-8600 and yet you spent $6400+ on the PC... I consider that to be a moderate/severe misallocation of valuable resources. second isse: the intel 660p SSD. it has been reviewed and shown to slow down to sub-HDD speeds when it starts to fill up. I recommend keeping it no more than half full.

That all said, it DOES look nice; I just think mistakes were made. at least its a Z370 board, so you can upgrade to a K model at some point should you decide you want too. All in all, It is obvious that you put some effort into the aesthetics, though I feel you did so at the expense of function.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

It's am upgrade timing thing. The 8600k was paired with a 1070 Ti. Decided to wait another year or so, whenever a 10th gen i7-9 drops. I kind of stumbled into the money for this setup over two years or so, and decided grabbing a 2080 Ti now and slapping a 10th gen CPU later was the right choice for me.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah, I get it. fair enough.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Just updated the post with the correct CPU and explanation of why I still have an i5. As far as the 660p. I saw those reviews, but got a great deal on it and I made sure to overprovision the drive to like 30% reserved. I'm already super picky out filling up SSD's, even with something like 10% provisioning, and have a 12TB Synology NAS for most of my steam library. I only keep about 3-4 games on the drive at any given point. So it shows about 50% utilization now, but in reality it's much lower.

Damn good criticism by the way; I appreciate the attention to detail. I definitely put too much emphasis on form over function, but that was kind of the intent with this build. I've had mid-tier hardware for years so when I was finally able to dump more cash into it I REALLY wanted it to look stellar as well.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

understandable. the 660p is generally pretty cheap, so i suppose if you left empty space then it might not be too bad.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea, it was kind of an impulse buy too, to be honest. When I was getting all the water cooling parts (around prime day) I spotted the 660p and REALLY wanted to get rid of my two 500GB 2.5" SSDs. Less cables and all that. I'll definitely keep this in mind when I upgrade the CPU next year and get like a 970 Evo or something.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm curious why you didn't try to fit a 240 rad up top also. Especially if it was xflow would fit great.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

This thing is gorgeous. I can hear the synthwave bass line just looking at it. I think people are overstating the 8600k being under-powered. That thing should be stable up to 4.9 or even 5.0 GHz. For gaming it should be able to deliver for the 2080Ti just fine. I really love how compact everything on this build is, especially that custom water loop. I'm curious to hear how well it runs the Rift. I'm currently working on a similar build for my Valve Index.

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  • 3 months ago
  • 5 points

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry man, I've tried updating and replying as much as I can. It's actually an 8600K that was originally paired with a 1070 Ti. Because of reasons I decided to hold off on a CPU upgrade until 10th gen i7/9 launches. I wanted a 2080 Ti and open water loop more than I wanted to upgrade the CPU. Rest assured, the 8600K and 2080 Ti were not bought as a pair, just upgrade timing stuff.

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Bet yours look like nothing compared to his