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So after buying a "gaming rig" pre-built off-the-shelf from Best Buy, returning it due to malfunction, getting a replacement which was also returned for malfunction, my sister decided to let me pick parts and build her a PC. She said she needed it for coding, 3D modeling, and gaming. Oh, and she also needed a DVD burner so she can burn cd's. She had a budget of $900 but it was ok if we went a little over. I tried keeping it under budget as well as not cheaping out on quality parts. But with the limited selection of AM3+ socket motherboards these days and the lack of cases with external 5.25" drive bays, I hit a snag. Now, I am going to replace the case and the motherboard. I didn't even think of the motherboard not being compatible with Windows 10 as it isn't very old or anything so I overlooked that and completely forgot to check if it had enough headers for the 3 case fans I purchased to go with the case and my air-flow pattern I had in mind. As if that wasn't bad enough, the case was a disaster. The motherboard would not sit properly in the case and the screw holes would not line up. I had to kinda force it while trying not to break anything. Not only that, but there are even parts of the board on the end that have no support so when plugging/unplugging things into those ends, the board bends. Then, once I got the board lined up and screwed in, the video card would not line up with it's screw hole. I had to put even more force on the case to get that to line up. Yes, I checked the PCIe slot and it was in correctly and all that. This case was just a disaster. Since this motherboard does not support Windows 10, I went ahead and installed Windows 7. I went to all the manufacturer's websites to install the appropriate up-to-date drivers but none of them would install. Fail after fail. I went to install the drivers from the CD that came with the motherboard and half of them would not install either. WTF? I expected better from ASUS. So now, I have to replace the motherboard and case but those 2 items seem to be difficult to find anymore for this compatibility. It should also be noted that the heatsink I got for this build was a tad too tall for this case. I mean it fit but when you put the door on, it bends the heatsink a little causing it to lose contact with the CPU and the computer will shut off and back on. I even went back and made sure the heatsink was screwed down securely as well as the brackets that came with it. Same issue remains. Why are there no AM3+ mobos anymore?!

PS: I will update this when we fix the said issues.

UPDATE(7/20/18) My sister has decided to go with a 1080 and a Ryzen build instead. Newegg wants to charge us over $50 in restocking fees on top of the shipping we have to pay to send back the CPU and video card. They then told me they would reimburse me half of the restocking fee but only if we bought another video card from them. Like how shady is that? So I have turned to eBay to sell these parts. They were just opened to build this PC but not overclocked or pushed to their limits. Hoping to get back what she paid for them.

All the parts we are replacing are as follows:

GPU

Motherboard

Ram memory

CPU

Case

Part Reviews

CPU

Can't go wrong with AMD. Affordable. Reliable.

CPU Cooler

I always hear about this brand being top notch. We will see. the fan color doesn't match with the other fans, but people say they are the best.

Motherboard

TERRIBLE BOARD!

Not compatible with Windows 10

Drivers for the board will not install

Drivers for the graphics card will not install

Not enough screw placements for sufficient support, or placed incorrectly

Annoying I/O shield

Memory

Virtual memory is virtual memory. Have no reference here other than sometimes you get a bad stick, most the time you get good ones, speaking about ram in general. No problem with these. Computer read all 16GB's. I figured 16GB was more than enough for gaming and a good amount for 3D modeling and whatnot. So not a bad choice for this particular build.

Storage

Western Digital. Solid State drive. This one is even faster than my Sandisk I have in my build. Like quite literally, the instant I release the mouse button, whatever I clicked on opens up or activates. Actually impressed. Oh, and boot times.. Time? What's that?

Storage

Always go with Western Digital. Sure, Seagate is cheap but it's cheap for a reason. Sometimes you get what you pay for and this is especially true with hard drives. Oh, and nothing short of 7200RPM when it comes to mechanicals.

Video Card

I'm sure this is up there with the heavy hitters. I have a 1080 in my rig. Haven't been able to see this baby chuck, as mentioned above with the mobo not accepting the drivers.

Case

This case looks cool but is horribly designed. The screw holes do not line up properly for the motherboard or the GPU. You really have to bend this case to get the holes to line up, so much in fact, you risk breaking your components. NOT GOOD!

Power Supply

Single Rail, baby! I could have gotten away with getting the 500watt one, or maybe even less. But this one was the exact same price as the 500watt so why not, right? Also, this leaves room for upgrades.

You have to think 4th dimensionally!

Optical Drive

What can I really say about this? It's a DVD burner drive. It does what it's supposed to.

Operating System

Will upgrade to 10 once the new mobo and case arrive.

Case Fan

These fans have great reviews. Will see.

Custom

Ok I guess. I prefer something more premium but this was a good price without being too cheap.

Comments

  • 17 months ago
  • 5 points

i cant believe you spent 900 building a pc with a old **** cpu, when you could of got a 8th gen intel or ryzen system for this. that cpu is old, very old, people upgrade from this cpu, not build this pc with this chip in it, you wasted her money badly.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

I agree completely. Overpriced 1060, not even the best AM3+ CPU, $50 for a ketchup PSU, he really screwed up. You wait for deals and go for used GPUs, not $70 for a cheap AM3+ motherboard or $290 for a 1060.

  • 17 months ago
  • 4 points

Re-did your list with better CPU, MOBO, PSU, RAM, HDD, PSU. Only subtraction I made was one fan and came up with the exact same price as you with significantly better performance. I would try and return what you can and choose from my list and you will have a much better experience. The only issue you may come across is a non-updated bios but if you send it back to Asrock they'll update for you so you can use the newest ryzen architecture. Happy Building :)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MrPqbX

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Impressive list. But i noticed the case is on the high side.

Cutting back on the case.

I managed to squeeze a Ryzen 5 1600 and MSI B350 PC mate combo.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zMhcMZ

EVGA 600BQ is on sale for 39.89 for 600 watts unit.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

This is exactly what I was going to suggest. MUCH more powerful CPU. Will outperform that FX chip in literally every metric.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G-vs-AMD-FX-6300/m441832vs1555

  • 17 months ago
  • 0 points

No, don't take the 2200g if you take a GPU, the 2200g have vega graphics, so the cpu heats up more, with 1200/1300x, you can do better oc with better temperature (s'rry fo my english, i'm speaking french xd)

  • 17 months ago
  • 5 points

Huh?

The GPU side of the APU wont be used unless you plug the HDMI to the mobo.

So the iGPU wont be active when the mobo detects the GTX 1060 installed

Also the Ryzen 3 2200g is a Ryzen 1200 with the iGPU side.

OC test shows exact same results in terms of speed.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Hi there. I was wondering why you chose a 1060 6gb card instead of maybe a rx 570 or 580 8gb card.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice, though the CPU is bad

+1 anyways

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

What is wrong with the CPU?

  • 17 months ago
  • 4 points

Its just an incredibly old platform, personally I think you should've gone for a AM4 chip or a new i3.

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  • 17 months ago
  • 4 points

It's utterly beaten by modern CPUs

  • 17 months ago
  • 4 points

Nope Ryzen has buried this platform since last year.

Many buddies of mine who were on the FX8350 CPU jumped to Ryzen 7 1700.

Big jump in fps like Battlefield 1

  • 17 months ago
  • 3 points

It's very slow when compared to modern CPUs. The Ryzen 3 1200 absolutely demolishes it in terms of performance. It's also outdated, using the old DDR3 RAM. We're using DDR4 now.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

I think your build is fine other then that mobo really isn't the best for a FX series, and also I would've went for an AMD FX 8350 for $20 more. It is just better stock and you've got a good enough cooler as is.Very good build though AM3+ isn't comparing well but it's holding up in general with gaming or anything else it's needed for.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Should of just bought a ryzen 3, fx 6300 is like 6 years old now

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

I was trying to keep it under budget.

  • 17 months ago
  • 4 points

For what you spent on your CPU, cooler and mobo, Ryzen 3 would have been cheaper if you just went with a stock cooler. You would have a MUCH more powerful system, and better upgrade path, etc.. I'm building an AM3+ system myself, but I got the FX-8350, a good Asus board, and 212 evo for $50CAD used. That's the only way it would have been worth it...

  • 17 months ago
  • 4 points

not to be rude my dude but u bought a $60 air cooler, SSD, and an $80 case. you could of definitely got a ryzen 3.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

that cpu is definitely gonna bottleneck the gpu. Why didn't you go with ryzen? It's much faster and supports ddr4

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Because I thought the prices were still high. Its all good though. I am returning most of the parts. Here is my new list. Care to tell me what you think? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LameGenie/saved/zhV3bv

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

This went a little over that original budget you talked about, but you are actually getting what you paid for now. This is a much better price to performance ratio for sure. I'm glad you were able to return those parts.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

I'll be doing something like this for my little brother, building him a rig with an old 4790 and a 980 or 970 so he can do 'school work'. Basically to play games instead of using my rig.

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  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

More planning could have been done to this build.

So many wrong buys here esp the CPU and Mobo combo.

For the same budget i could squeeze a Ryzen 5 1600 which is the newest 6 core 12 treads CPU

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zMhcMZ

It def weird you cant use Windows 10. Because my Q9650 build could run Win 10 without any issues. Drivers for the mobo are just the Windows 7 64bit drivers.

See if you can return the parts and get everything online or from Microcenter

  • 17 months ago
  • -1 points

Sure, others are suggesting other cpu choices but the 6300 still absolutely kicks *** and is still a great bang for your buck choice. Don't feel bad about your choice, I'm sure it will suffice and exceed your expectations, overclocks like a champ too.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

it's gonna bottleneck the gpu tho :<

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  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. I want to get Linux but the compatibility is not there.

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  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Why is this CPU bad? Intel is too expensive. Not just the CPU but the mobo and other components to match it. It ends up being way over budget.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

An used Ivy Bridge i5 and a B75 board could be had for 50€+50€ on eBay and it would kick the FX's ***

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