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This was built to replace an ailing X99 system. And a dead X299 system. Things happen. I use this system for occasional video encoding and 4k gaming. Anything less than 4k looks like a blurry mess to me now.

I'm super impressed with Precision Boost. With a motherboard where per core overclocking is allowed, I could do better. But as it is, while gaming, active cores maintain 4.25-4.35Ghz. Voltages and temps are constantly high. Maybe a "feature" of the motherboard. But this should be expected and checks out. I watched a Gamers Nexus video. It runs hot enough that I thought I'd messed up with the water loop somewhere. The CPU will hit 1.5v on occasion. Since I've owned FX processors, I'm ok with that. But the GPU stays cool. And so does the VRM. So, I guess it's fine.

No problems with the XMP 3600Mhz profile.

I was disappointed with radiator support in the Define R6. It can support more than I've got in here, but not if you want to install the 3.5in drives. I plan to install an optical drive because I'm from a time where you needed one and I'll populate most of the 3.5in slots eventually.

Tempered glass is way better than acrylic. It's one trend I can get behind. There are 2 RGB strips in the case. But they will only ever be blue. It's the only part of RGB that I like.

After doing builds with hard tubing, it's hard to go back to soft tubing. Hard tubing looks so much better. No one wants to see flaccid tubing in a computer. So I have attempted to hide the soft tubing as much as I could. There is also a UV LED strip. It has turned the tubing it can see brownish. You can't tell when the system is on. So no worries. It hasn't made it brittle yet. But I'll keep and eye on it. The reservoir is propped up with a collar from a compression fitting. It works. Deal with it.

I bought the motherboard for the dragon. Of course. Unfortunately it's not RGB. Which I feel is a missed opportunity.

Pic of RGB dog included. As always.

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  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

this why the "offset voltage" exist look it up.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I understand offset voltage. Though I fail to see how your comment is relevant. Adjusting the offset while using PBO would defeat the purpose of PBO. It's there so you don't have to mess with it. In any case, it's not an option in the bios. At least not with precision boost enabled

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

MSI does not have offset voltage in their BIOS. This is one of the biggest criticisms Buildzoid has about MSI, otherwise, the M7 is a fantastic board, i've got one too. Though using first gen Ryzen, I have no PBO.

1.5v is quite high, but is fine if it goes there for short bursts. Ryzen first gen goes to 1.55v for the second or two some cores reach XFR boost, and AMD has said this is fine, and by design it doesn't stay that high for constant voltage. I personally, from what I have seen from browsing online for a little while, wouldn't go past 1.37v for a 24/7 overclock, but AMD has never officially laid out "safe" voltage levels for zen+ like they did for first gen, I suspect this might be because of how PBO works. But, Childless_Father from r/AMD did mention he has had two first gen Ryzen 3's show signs of degredation after two months running at 1.4v with a 24/7 overclock.

Messing around with offset voltage indeed does take away some of the appeal for the set and forget PBO offers, true, but for those concerned about degradation, it's a concern. Zen is also quite temperature sensitive. Add to this, it's common knowledge software will near always push more voltage than is necessary to compensate for silicone lottery.

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

For what it's worth, I've had degradation on an R5 1600 with voltage of less than 1.4v. I've had the same experience on Intel processors running voltage considered to be "safe". I don't really believe in "safe voltage". Who's really done the work to determine what voltage is actually "safe". Beyond what is anecdotal. Some overclocks might be fine for gaming but unsafe for heavier workloads. And if a workload is varied like mine is, it becomes a pain to swap oc profiles all the time. It's really turned me off to overclocking for anything more than gaming.

That's where PBO becomes attractive. It will run higher voltages for lighter loads like gaming and lower voltages for more intense loads like video encoding. It sort of runs a custom overclock for the load. I'd enjoy trying another X470 motherboard to see if voltages differ by vendor. I'm certainly interested in the longevity of the MSI board and 2700X after see voltage reported at 1.519v.

+1 for Buildzoid. Best motherboard reviews there are.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

What were your temps like under full load?

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  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. And it definitely seems to be from the UV. Places where the tubing is covered are fine.