Description

My current Ryzen based mini-ITX gaming build I've been planning and borderline obsessing over for about 2 years since I had to sell my last rig.

Not listed in the parts list are 2x Dell 1680x1050 monitors

The final planned builds are here:

RX580 version: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/bburns91/saved/msQXHx

Vega64 version: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/bburns91/saved/NKDcYJ

Will review parts when I've had some time to really test and use them!

Part Reviews

CPU

Runs like a dream. 4 core / 8 thread performance runs smooth as butter. And this thing allows me to game on 1050p! As someone who's been without a gaming rig for almost 2 years and stepping up from an old ThinkPad T420, this thing is awesome. Thanks AMD for keeping the budget gamers in mind.

I had initially planned to do an R5 2600 & RX580, but I'm not sure if I'll still upgrade the CPU after I'm able to get the RX580. If I don't have any performance bottlenecks, might as well keep it. Can't wait to throw an AIO on there and do some overclocking.

My only complaint is that I wish the Wraith Spire RGB cooler came standard on all Ryzen versions and not just Ryzen 7 :(

Thermal Compound

Thick yet easy to spread, keeps my temps low, It's thermal paste. They're all pretty much the same.

Motherboard

I got this specific motherboard because:

A) it fit my color scheme, and the RGB is a nice touch. Too many AM4 motherboards assume you just automatically want a black and red color theme because it's an AMD build

B) cheaper than the ASUS equivalent boards

C) has two video outputs, which I knew I would need since I was buying the 2400G APU

The BIOS/UEFI is a little cryptic, and the manual doesn't explain what any of the overclocking settings are. I had some trouble updating the BIOS at first, but was eventually able to figure it out. One super frustrating aspect of this is what when adjusting voltages, the BIOS/UEFI doesn't tell you what most of the voltages are CURRENTLY at, and all the adjustments are offsets/scaling instead of typing in an exact value. So you have no idea what most of the voltages are or what you're changing them to. This could be very dangerous if someone isn't careful and sets their voltages too high and fries their components. This really should be addressed in a future BIOS update. ASUS and MSI motherboards will have a big advantage over Biostar because their BIOS/UEFI is much more user-friendly.

I haven't been able to do any CPU overclocking yet as I lack the proper cooling solution, so I can't speak on that,

I've had some trouble getting my RAM to the full 3200MHz (OC) speed, but I eventually figured out that that was because I may have bought the wrong RAM kit. I bought a 16-16-18-36 kit (or whatever that RAM kit is down below), but there's actually a B-Die version of the same kit with CL14 timings that apparently would've been much easier to deal with. Still haven't been able to dial in the full 3200MHz OC yet, but that's not the motherboard's fault, I should've researched the RAM more.

All in all so far this mobo is solid. If Biostar would just update their BIOS/UEFI so it's more user-friendly like ASUS and MSI, and maybe put a little more detail on OC settings in their manual, it'd be a 5-star rating. The RGB on the VRM is also a nice touch which I really appreciate as it allows for flexibility if you want to change color schemes.

UPDATE: I was eventually able to dial in the 3200MHz RAM Overclock, just had to play with it a bit!

UPDATE 2: Motherboard died after about 10 month of usage. It won't boot to anything anymore, either Windows on my SSD or a Linux live ISO on a USB drive. It's been sent in for RMA and I'm waiting to hear back from Biostar. That's what I get for cheaping out and buying Biostar, should've just bought the ASUS board (especially given that with the cost of this board plus the ASUS WiFi adapter I bought, I could've just spent 20 more bucks and gotten the ASUS board with WiFi built-in).

UPDATE 3: RMA'd the motherboard and the issue is still happening, haven't confirmed yet but I think it's actually my CPU that failed, not the motherboard. RMA'ing the CPU now, we'll see

Memory

I bought the wrong kit! This particular kit is CL16, Hynix A-Die, and what would've been much better for Ryzen would be the CL14 Samsung B-Die variant of this same kit.

Learn from my mistake! If you're doing a Ryzen build with this kit, make sure you get the right variant! The correct SKU ends in TZRX

That being said, the RGB is gorgeous and is highly customizable. I've been able to get this up to 2933MHz but when I have time I'm really going to try to dial in the full 3200MHz.

This RAM kit is awesome, no complaints whatsoever. Just make sure you buy the right one!

UPDATE: I was eventually able to dial in the 3200MHz RAM Overclock, just had to play with it a bit! So this isn't technically the "wrong" kit, it's just on-paper not as good as the CL14 "Ryzen Optimized" kit. But basically all that amounts to is that you have to manually dial in your RAM overclock instead of using an A-XMP profile. Not as big of a deal as I initially thought.

Storage

A coworker turned me on to Drevo SSDs a while back and I use them exclusively now. They're cheap, fast, and solid. No complaints. 120GB is plenty to hold my OS installation.

Storage

Got this 2TB to hold all my games and user files. So far so good, runs fine. I remember back when 1TB drives were $100 so a 2TB for $60 is awesome. No complaints.

Video Card

Got this used for $140 in really good condition, couldn't pass it up. Upgrading from Vega 11 in the Ryzen 2400G, this thing is a beast. Runs everything on High or Ultra quality 60fps. GTA V, CS:GO, DOOM, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1, all run smooth as buttah.

Even under "max" loads like GTA V and Superposition benchmark, I'm only ever using a max of 3GB VRAM, so I wonder if this card can push 1440p.

I wasn't able to overclock to 1500MHz core clock / 9Gbps memory clock, but that's just the silicon lottery, not much you can do about that.

Case

This case is gorgeous! It's even better looking in person. I bought this case because of the looks and because it fits my use-case exactly, When my full planned build is done, there will be zero wasted space in this chassis. It's a great balance of ITX form factor yet not being too cramped and having room for liquid cooling,

1x M.2 SSD on my mobo + 1x SSD bracket + 2x HDD cage slots is exactly what I need since I like to dual boot Windows and Linux, so I do 2x SSD+HDD combos. AND I can still have room for an additional SSD bracket which I plan to use for an NZXT Hue+ controller.

Also threw a 200m fan in the front since this new TG edition doesn't come with the 200m fan anymore, and replaced the 140m in the back with the black version instead of the white version so the color scheme (black+blue) is more cohesive. However it will eventually be replaced with an NZXT Aer 140m

Phanteks also added RGB to the power button and LED bar on the front panel, so I literally can't think of any complaints or tweaks for this case. Hands down my favorite ITX case on the market right now.

Power Supply

Wanted some overhead for future overclocking so I went with the 750W. Had to go full modular for cable management. EVGA power supplies are the best in my opinion. I know they're technically Seasonic but whatever.

Operating System

I'm a Linux fanboy (btw I use Arch) but gaming is just so much easier on Windows. Got a Key for cheap so didn't have to pay the full $100 price. Eventually I will set up dual boot with Arch Linux.

Wireless Network Adapter

Never had a bad ASUS product. Had some driver issues with this though, apparently Windows 10 update(s) broke the driver, so you have to manually install a Realtek driver to fix it. But that's Windows' fault, not ASUS.

Case Fan

Looks great, moves air, not exactly silent but not super loud either. Not much else to say.

Case Fan

Looks great, moves air, not exactly silent but not super loud either. Not much else to say.

Headphones

Totally worth the $40, however the original price of $80 when these first came out definitely seems overpriced, glad they lowered it.

Comfortable, good sound quality, good mic quality. And I like the flexibility of being able to use either USB or 3.5mm

The cable on this headset is suuuuuper long. Not sure why they made it so long. Maybe some people need that?

Speakers

Cheap, basic speakers. They do the job.

Custom

Looks awesome, provides a nice big surface for my mouse and keyboard.

Custom

A proper dual or triple monitor mount really makes a huge difference for your setup. I recently got the IKEA Malm desk, so I needed a monitor mount that sits on the desk/table top rather than one that clamps to the edge. Although, this mount can also be clamped as well as secured to the desk if you want to drill a hole through your desk, which I didn't want to do but I appreciate that the option is there.

This thing is definitely solid and has some weight to it, and the built-in cable management brackets are great. No complaints at all, wish I had gotten one of these a long time ago. Now I just need some 27" monitors to mount on it...

Custom

Looks smaller than it actually is, just watch TechSource's "The Perfect Setup" episode 1, it showcases this desk for me it's the perfect size and functionality, especially with the cable management tray built-in.

Custom

Not bad but one weird quirk, the mouse never remembers its color setting after a reboot. It always reverts back to red. The keyboard doesn't have this problem and remembers its color setting. Odd.

Comments

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Graphics card?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

wrong cpu listed it's the 2400g look at last pic, no gpu and display is on, it could be r2200g but they did pick a 6core cpu so I'd assue the more powerful one out of the two(also ram etc)

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry, accidently had wrong part listed! Originally planned for R5 2600 & RX580 but my wallet disagreed, so went with the 2400G instead. Parts list has been fixed now!

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

That's fine

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Either this entire build is bs or you have the wrong CPU listed. Judging by the Radeon sticker I would guess the ladder. Do you have a 2400g and not the 2600? Because if you have the 2600 I call bs.

The build does look good tho. I recommend a little bit more lighting, Not much. Just enough to illuminate the inside a bit more.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

wrong cpu listed it's the 2400g look at last pic, no gpu and display is on.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah that is what I was saying. If it was the 2600 then that is why I would call bs because the display was on...

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh I'm sorry, I may have forgotten to change the parts listing. I definitely have the 2400G. I'll fix that! Had some last minute budget restrictions that changed my parts list ;) Had originally planned for R5 2600 & RX580 but my wallet disagreed

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh also I am planning on eventually getting an NZXT Kraken, some NZXT Aer fans for both the radiator and the rear case fan, and the Hue+ to control it all with. So combined with the LEDs on the RX580 I have picked out, the final version of this build should be pretty well illuminated ;)

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

How is the Biostar mobo?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

So far I'm regretting not getting the ASUS board instead. For the cost of this Biostar board + the ASUS WiFi adapter, I could've just gotten the ASUS board for $20 more.

I'm having a hard time getting the RAM to actually run at 3200MHz. Lots of BSODs once I actually start running a game. So right now for the system to actually be usable I'm stuck on 2133MHz.

Not sure if it's because of the APU limitations or because of the motherboard.

Also, the manual to the motherboard doesn't explain ANY of the Overclocking settings in the Biostar O.N.E. menu, so you basically have to Google and hope for the best if you don't already know what you're doing. Setting voltages is done with offsets instead of entering exact values, which is also odd.

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Just got the RX 580 :D

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice!

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks!