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Project Overload

by WakaWalkers


Second build I've ever built. Been wanting to upgrade from my old rig. Finally saved up for me to get the parts I've been wanting minus a change here and there. Also enjoy my mounting solution for my SSD. And i know what your thinking there are multiple areas to properly mount it. But to that i say i didn't want to route another power cable cause i`m lazy. But nevertheless, this is my new rig and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

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diypartsjoy 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

What do you need 7.5 terabytes of storage for?

SychicMind 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

for his large photography collection ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

tylervandersall18 1 point 2 months ago

rut ro raggy

WakaWalkers submitter 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago


vossalex 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

In order to deviate from the current thread I will let you know I like your build. I don't think there is any issue with your SSD mounting. There are slots to place parts right? It looks clean to me. Nice work!

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philip staff 10 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

The sale of those keys violate Microsoft ToS, and the keys may be unexpectedly disabled. Recommending, suggesting, advising, encouraging, hinting, or in any way implying these keys as a solution or option is not allowed on this site.

reyna785 1 point 2 months ago

The OEM TOS states "You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement". It seems ambiguous at best. Do you have a better source for how purchasing such keys violates the ToS?

philip staff 10 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

How about this: those keys may violate MS TOS. Either way, recommending them here is not allowed.

reyna785 1 point 2 months ago

Fair enough, however, they only violate the ToS if used inappropriately, I was agnostic to whether he was building this PC for personal or resale use, and even then it's a gray area when MS themselves have taken contradictory stances on self-built PCs using system builder/OEM licenses.

In light of this, however, there are a few issues I have. My Choice Software is a listed vendor on this site. They manipulate reviews by offering customers discounts/rebates/rewards if they leave 5-star reviews (really seems crappy because it manipulates our decision-making when choosing a vendor) and have been sued by MS (apparently multiple times) and Adobe in the last 3-4 years for copyright/trademark infringement. Is that an acceptable vendor if the forum policy is to protect either the consumer or strictly adhere to the MS ToS? Regardless, it certainly violates the respect each other policy. Additionally, Amazon has for-sale the exact licenses you deleted my post for - just click the link on this site and browsing the related items (violates the key reseller policy).

I'm just not sure this is a consistent policy to delete posts mentioning what mine did when you continue to allow listings from vendors who sell exactly what I mentioned. While it's not my site and I'm not a moderater and really have no "skin" in the game, I just wanted to point out what seems like a hypocritical policy.

Thank you for your response and not just for removing the post without explanation.

philip staff 10 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

To the best of my knowledge, when we link out to Amazon for the operating system licenses they are first-hand and not resold keys. If I'm wrong there we'll update our listings. Our policy is to only list first-hand licenses/keys. Now, Amazon has a large marketplace and there are almost certainly marketplace sellers that will list second-hand keys, but we shouldn't be linking to those.

Our stance on key resellers is that there are many situations where the original keys are pulled from volume licenses, MSDN, or educational deals (which is usually against the specific license ToS) or are fraudulently purchased with stolen credit cards. Here's a slew of comments and related articles on key resellers: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/wiki/keyresellers

That's not an ecosystem we want to help grow, and that's why posts advocating it are removed. It's a nonstop battle because numerous content creators advocate key resellers. Many are compensated for it - we've been approached by kinguin, scdkey, and others to earn commissions selling their keys... and some of them proudly state in their emails what youtubers have taken them up on their offer.

It isn't our intent to be hypocritical about the issue - if we're listing prices for software that are resold keys we'll remove them (but given that we track over 1M prices here that change by the hour, sometimes it's hard to stay on top of it).

On the retailer requesting favorable reviews for a rebate - that's not something that I find acceptable. Let me look into it with my team and we'll see what action needs to be taken. Similarly, if after looking into it we find it's in violation of our key reseller policy, they'll be removed.