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Ryzen Development and Gaming Build

by dminer78

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20 Comments

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Date Published

April 29, 2018

Date Built

April 28, 2018

CPU Clock Rate

4.17GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

38.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

55.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.35GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

3.50GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

64.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

78.0° C

Description

Been on my i5-4460 for the past few years and it was showing it's age with everything I was throwing at it. With virtual machines and Flask servers constantly running, I was seeing near 50% utilization on idle. To make matters worse, games would drop frames or just ignore controller inputs. So when I saw Ryzen 2/Zen+ come out I decided to jump on it.

The build took about a week to finish because of following issues:
1. Core Performance Boost was causing the system to freeze whenever I loaded up a program
2. Couldn't figure out how to get the Intel bracket off the AIO
3. School

Ran a few benchmarks so here's the results.
Ambient was between 78-85 F (25-30 C) degrees (yay for windows pointing towards the sun)

i5 4460 Build Notes
OS was Windows 8.1 Pro
Used High Performance Plan
CPU had around 10% cpu utilization during idle (Steam, Discord, etc.)

R7 2700X Build Notes
OS was Windows 10 Pro
Used High Performance Plan
CPU had around 2% cpu utilization during idle
Memory ran at 3400Mhz (Ran this instead of 3600 to get better timings)
CPU Overclocked to 4.175Ghz@1.25V (Couldn't do 4.2 all cores)

Benchmark Info
Handbrake
Version 1.0.7 64-bit
File used was a 1080p30fps h.264 encoded file I had recorded

7-Zip Archive
a 20 GB folder was archived using 7-Zip 17.01 64-bit
Files included: music, video, ISOs, Flask projects, node_modules, and a few steam games
7-Zip settings:
Compression level: Maximum
Compression method: LZMA
Dictionary Size: 64 MB
Word Size: 128
Solid Block Size: 64GB
Number of CPU threads: 4
Encryption method: AES-256
Encrypt file names: checked (both used the same password, 'test-files')

Benchmark 4460 2700X
Cinebench R15 477 cb 1770cb
7-Zip Archive 00:58:30 00:50:44
Handbrake H.264 28 frames/sec 90 frames/sec
Handbrake H.265 19 frames/sec 50 frames/sec
Blender - Gooseberry 02:10:34 00:35:43

Overall, I'm super happy with this machine. All the extra cores will help a lot with virtual machines and rendering. Thought of upgrading the GPU but with prices as is I'll pass. My 970 works well enough for what I need it to do anyways.

Part Reviews

CPU

This processor has been a beast with everything I've thrown at it. Since it has 16 threads, I'm able to allocate way more resources to VMs.

CPU Cooler

The fans are a little loud but it still keeps my 2700X really cool. I had some trouble getting the intel bracket off. If this ever happens to you, just loosen the 4 screws around the copper plate and then turn the bracket COUNTER-clockwise.

Motherboard

Great build quality, great performance. The BIOS is one of the best and the quality really shows with the software and the hardware.

Core Performance Boost was the only thing I had problems with. It caused a lot of instability so I had to disable that. I'm sure it'll improve with future revisions of the BIOS.

Memory

This was the most expensive piece of the entire build. It works (and looks) great but I really wish NAND prices would come down. It really hurts paying nearly double the price.

Storage

Loaded up Windows on it and it was blazing fast. Don't know how I lived with Windows installed on a 5400RPM HDD for so long

Storage

Fast and has plenty of space for games and coding projects

Storage

Great for mass media and other stuff I don't want to install onto my SSDs

Video Card

Kind of wish it had more VRAM but it still runs extremely well for what I do. Really glad I got it before all the GPU prices went up.

Case

It's Fractal Design of course it's going to be great. It gets a little cramped under the PSU shroud but that's my only gripe.

Power Supply

Quiet, and works great. Plus it's 80+ Platinum Certified

UPS

Keeps my system running even when we have power outages.

Comments Sorted by:

wurpy 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Nice new rig!

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Thanks!

--aiden-- 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

i will give you 50usd to sell me the wraith prism? would you be willing to sell it to me?, btw nice build, greetings from ireland!!

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Greetings! I want to keep it just in case something fails and I need to have a temporary cooler. Sorry about that

--aiden-- 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

no problem, haha its been hard to find someone willing to part with theirs

Cooe 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Great build! But you have me stumped with this - "1. Core Performance Boost was pushing my CPU past 4,3Ghz, which it couldn't handle"

As a fellow 2700X owner I'm rather confused by that statement / your choice to to run a basic all-core overclock. It only boosts to 4.3GHz with at most 2-cores (but generally just 1). Your manual overclock is actually a tad more agressive than the stock clocks as far as all-core speeds, and even the stock Prism cooler can handle the default Precision Boost 2 profile just fine, let alone an H100i. The default settings should generally run cooler & quiteter than that overclock, and produce FAR superior lightly to moderately threaded performance results.

Only thing I can think of that would make that not the case is if Asus had Precision Boost Overdrive (or something similar) turned on in that board's BIOS by default, which is a definite possibility. I'd definitely look into that, because if that's the case, turning it off should solve any thermal/power problems (not that I can imagine you having any even with it on, an H100i's more than enough to handle that), and let you switch back to using Precision Boost 2, and it's generally superior performance (outside totally multi-threaded workloads).

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

I did the basic overclock because I wasn't sure how XFR/SenseMI/Precision Boost 2 worked at the time. Been studying for finals and tests the past few weeks so I haven't had the time to tinker around with it again. I was also waiting for updated an firmware file for the BIOS just in case there were any bugs.

I definitely remember Core Performance Boost was causing the system to lock up whenever I'd open a program or something that only needed single threaded performance. It was also sometimes pushing up to 1.45V, which I really wasn't comfortable with since my AIO would ramp up the fans to be super loud.

I'm not too sure what I have Precision Boost Overdrive set to. I know I set Performance Enhancer to Level 3 today after watching Der8auer's video. I got a pretty good bump in single threaded performance from that. I'll have to mess around with it more once school gets out.

bradshawmh24 1 point 3 months ago

what are the settings you set for the memory? like voltage, timings etc..? Thank you!

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

I just set the D.O.C.P/XMP settings in the BIOS. The Crosshair automatically tightens all the secondary and tertiary timings :)

Dark-Ice 1 point 2 months ago

Awesome, but tell us which CAS Latency are you getting at 3400Mhz? Because I want to build a new pc with the 2700X as well and pair it with 2x16GB too, but I don't know if I should stick to the 3200Mhz CL14 or 3466Mhz CL16 or 3600Mhz CL17 and turn it down to see if I can get closer to 14CL.

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

I think I got mine down to 16 or 17 by doing it. This comment explains really well on how memory performs with Ryzen 1. GamersNexus did some testing with Ryzen 2 and found basically everything over 3200Mhz performed about the same. So with those in mind here's the timings I got for each of the kits you mentioned:
(14/3200)x1000=4.375 ns
(16/3466)x1000=4.616 ns
(17/3600)x1000=4.722 ns

The CL14 is faster than the CL16 or CL17. It's probably also Samsung BDie, which is known to work really well with Ryzen. Although, honestly, all of the kits will probably give around the same amount of performance.

Benjoman01 1 point 2 months ago

this hurts my bank account just looking at it

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

A lot of the total came from my previous build. That includes the SSDs, HDD, GPU, keyboard, mouse, UPS, and OS.

When you take those out, the build comes to around $1K.

Silvite 1 point 2 months ago

Damn that's a nice looking build! Quick question, what's the clearance like on the first RAM slot? The cooler looks like it's pretty close. I'm thinking of getting 4 sticks of 8gb trident z for my own rig.

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

There's a good couple of millimeters of room. You really shouldn't have any issues with the first slot and the stock cooler. Here's a picture of the stock cooler next to the memory slots: https://puu.sh/Audoo/ada9030647.jpg

Silvite 2 points 2 months ago

Awesome, and thanks for the pic.

CreepyerGamerX 1 point 2 months ago

what is the CyberPower - CP1000AVRLCD UPS from what I know it just keeps your system running when your power goes out but for how long?

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Yup a UPS is an Uninterruptible Power Supply. When the power goes out (or when it flickers) everything connected to it will still get power from the UPS' battery. How long it lasts really depends on how much power everything connected to it is using. At idle, my UPS is having a 20% load (114 watts) and it estimates it can run for 40 minutes on the display. However, if I start to play games or render something, my PC will consume more power, thus decreasing the time the UPS will supply power while the grid is down.

CreepyerGamerX 1 point 2 months ago

Ok well my build (the one I am working on) estimates 440 wats how would that go because I would want enough time to like save my stuff and whatnot like at least 10 minutes

dminer78 submitter 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

In that case, I'd check for something with 1000 VA (the one I have) or higher. At full load, mine does about 300 watts and that'll last around 10 minutes. You can also check the specifications of different ones since they show what the run time will be with full load and half load.