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Ryzen 5 1600 GTX 1070 Silence

by snackelroy

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30 Comments

Details

Date Published

May 18, 2017

Date Built

April 25, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

3.8GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

32.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

75.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.98GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

9.5GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

35.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

77.0° C

Description

Bit the bullet and tried out new architecture with the Ryzen 5 1600 for a long overdue upgrade to a 2009 Intel machine. Matched with EVGA GTX 1070. The DIYPC Silence case was super easy to build in with great cable management, but the airflow is pretty minimal. I either can't overclock the Ryzen at all or I have to leave the front door of the case open to get more cool air in, which defeats the whole silent case idea. This is with the stock cooler, though, so I'll try a 120mm Noctua cooler I have leftover and see if that helps. I'm trying to avoid spending $45 on 3 new case fans to solve the problem as in that case I might as well have gone with the Fractal Design Define R5 for the same price delta, which this DIYPC case is pretty clearly copying. Oh well. At least the Ryzen 5 1600 at stock is truly a 65w CPU and everything is cool and quiet if I leave it at stock speeds.

Overall I'm really happy with my first bottoms-up build. Mostly new parts with a couple carryovers like the EVGA Supernova G2 PSU and Intel SSD. Loving the Ryzen chip for photo and video editing and it does fine with gaming. Haven't seen 100% usage in any games at 1440p when the 1070 is maxing out, so that's good. Zero stutter. The one time I did see mild stutter was about once a minute and I couldn't figure it out until I realized I was still running 11 of the 12 threads at 100% on BOINC in the background. And the game was still running almost perfectly! Lots of juice to spare here. Should last another 5 years before I get around to wanting another upgrade.

Part Reviews

CPU

Great processor. Way more bang for the buck than the same priced Intel 7600 (non-K). You get 2 more cores, 8 more threads, and an unlocked multiplier. Big kudos to AMD for shaking up the pricing norms in this segment. I took the risk and jumped ship from Intel and am very happy with the results so far.

I have the 1600 dialed in to a stable 3.8 GHz @ 1.3375v, which equates to a CPU package power draw of exactly 95 watts during Prime95 and AIDA64 stress testing. Like all the reviews say, you only need to bump up to 1.4+ if you feel the need for 4.0 GHz and that's just not worth the extra power, heat, and noise to me. Also, I don't recommend the stock cooler for anything over 3.7 GHz, which led to temps in the low 80s C after just a few minutes of load. I finally got my Noctua AM4 bracket for my top down NH-L12 and temps dropped 10C compared to the stock cooler. The Wraith Spire is very good for stock but plan to get something else if you want to have temps under 70 C while overclocking.

I use this my rig for gaming and photo and video editing. Paired with a GTX 1070 this CPU destroys editing tasks, especially for the pricetag. I mostly use Lightroom, which isn't all that well optimized to begin with (just like Intel getting all complacent without a competitor in recent years). There is a huge misconception that more threads only help with exporting, which just isn't true. I do tons of batch processing with dozens of images at a time with either the Sync button or copy-n-paste to apply numerous settings identically to many images at once. Where I previously had to watch my 4 cores slog their way through it, now I get to see 12 threads blaze through the task in a fraction of a second. This also applies to multitask imports where you want to, say, rename, convert to DNG, and generate 1:1 previews - it's lightning fast. Once that's all done there is absolutely zero pop-in when moving through images. They're just there, ready for more edits. For video editing, my lined up experience so far has lined up with bigger online reviews; the edits and transcodes I've done have gone very, very quickly compared to my previous 4 core/4 thread life.

Gaming is super smooth, zero stutter, and never at full utilization even on 1440p. I wish I had more to say about the gaming experience but the best I can say is that this CPU doesn't get in the way. Plenty powerful to let my GTX 1070 do its thing.

In conclusion, I tempered my expectations for the new Ryzen architecture but have been hugely impressed. I'm looking forward to staying on the AM4 platform for a while based on this experience.

CPU Cooler

I originally bought this for a micro-ATX OEM case with the low profile, top down fan, and low noise output features in mind. For my Ryzen build I originally put in the stock Wraith Spire because it was ready to go and I hadn't sent away for the AM4 bracket from Noctua yet. While the Wraith Spire performs admirably for a stock cooler and is remarkably quiet even over 2,000 rpm, I just don't think it's adequate for the Ryzen 1600 CPU unless you either keep it at stock speeds or have a nearly open case with respect to airflow. Wanting to overclock to 3.8 GHz in a moderate airflow "silent" case, I decided to install the NH-L12 and see if it would help. In a word, yes. Temps are down about 8 degrees and it's still quieter than the Wraith Spire. Even with stress testing (Prime95, AIDA64, RealBench) the CPU usually stays under 76C. BOINC and some hot weather can still see 85C but I can open up the case a bit if needed. I'm hoping some 140mm Noctua fans at the intake instead of the stock case fans will help that, and long term I might even upgrade this cooler to the NH-U14S, but for the meantime this top down cooler performs well enough that it will probably stay in my build for a while to come.

Motherboard

I feel like this board is underpriced at $100. I had been looking at X370 options in the $150 - $180 range but this had what I needed. Vcore has been very stable at overclocks up to 1.35v, but I can't speak to voltages higher than that. The only thing that is kind of a crock about this board is that 2 of the 6 expansion slots are PCI, not PCIe. I added a 6 header USB 2.0 card just to make some use of this, but there's not too much else you can put in PCI these days. It basically makes this a mATX board masquerading as ATX. I feel slightly limited with the PCIex4 slot that becomes x1 if populate either of the two native x1 slots, but that was a known PCIe lane limitation of the chipset going in. I'm sure the PCI slots are also the product of that limitation.

Otherwise I actually kinda like the red LEDs, and the heatsink for the power phases is also pretty solid, even if they are just 4+2. And someday I'll put an M.2 drive into that slot, so that's nice to have. Lastly, fan headers galore that can speed control via PWM or DC, which was heaven sent with my mixed bag of 4 pin and 3 pin fans.

All in all a great board for $100.

Memory

I want to give this 4 stars for not running at rated speeds, but I'm positive that's a Ryzen problem instead of a Corsair LPX problem. That said, people have been having much more luck with G. Skill b-die RAM and X370 motherboards when it comes to running RAM sticks at rated speeds. I have these rock solid stable at 2666 at 14-14-14-32 timings, which are speedier than the rated timings, so that makes up for not hitting 3200. Hopefully a BIOS update solves all in the future but I'm not stressing over it.

Storage

I chose this a couple years ago because Intel drives were known for high reliability and low performance deviation. And I was mad at Samsung at the time for an unrelated product failure. But that was dumb of me. I should have just gotten the Samsung 850 EVO for the same or lower price as this, which apparently runs 60-100% faster according to userbenchmark dot com. After heavy use and BOINCing it's still rated at 80-90% drive life depending on status software used, so that's nice. But I'm going with Samsung next time.

Storage

No complaints here. 64MB cache and fairly quiet. Gets the job done.

Storage

Some complaints here. 128MB cache makes it very fast but this drive is NOT quiet. Kind of grindy, actually, which is not a good descriptive word for a hard drive. I've read this is relatively normal for this drive and it's otherwise performed very well over the last year I've had it. Great price per TB for fast HDD storage. Just not for quiet builds. I use this as a backup drive, however, and as long as I leave the power saving options for my HDDs at "only spin up on demand," this one only makes its noises after I've gone to bed. In another room.

Video Card

Picked this up almost brand new for $100 under MSRP on eBay, which seems to be about the average going rate for used SC models these days. Runs most games 60-100+ fps ultra 1440p. Boosts way over rated speeds. I've got an easy going +100 on the core and +500 on the memory without adjusting voltage and it's rock steady. I plan to keep it for at least 3 years. I honestly do not need better graphics than Witcher 3 or Titanfall 2 at Ultra settings 1440p, so if I have to dial down AAA titles in 2018 so be it.

Case

For $100 I would still like this case. For $80 I'd be very happy with the purchase. But for $60 I am absolutely in love with this not-so-little gem. Also underpriced IMO given the features, well thought out design, and sturdiness of it. Cable management is so easy because of the 9.25" width, it's simple to look like you know what you're doing. I love the small shroud used for the 5.25 drive bays, too. They don't stick out like sore thumbs if you're not using them because the window side drive holder only comes back into the case halfway. It's genius and no other case maker is doing it like this. Filters for the front and PSU fans are easy to access. Space at the top for two 120mm fans or a 240mm rad. Front fans can be upgraded to 140mm, which I'll probably do next.

If this were $80 or more I'd take a star off for the following: relatively large yet still only space for 2 x 3.5 and 3 x 2.5 drives; no fan intake on the floor toward the front, even though there's space for it; PSU shroud is cramped and you have to really think out your modular cable runs before you put the PSU in; front i/o are a little cheap - the 3.5mm headphone jack is already a little loose. But the 2 x USB 3.0 + 2 x USB 2.0 with little rubber inserts makes up for this. But for $60, 5 stars all the way.

Hot tip: ditch the fan controller, plug the 3-pin fans into your fan headers, and use DC speed control in your BIOS or Windows fan controller (MSI Command Center, etc.). Almost all modern motherboards will let you do some some of smart fan control with PWM and DC. Way less wire clutter this way and you're not constantly reaching down to open the door and change speeds depending on your activity. Someday I'll replace the stock fans with Noctua but until I save up that extra $60 the ones included actually do pretty well. Very quiet and decent airflow. I'm pretty sure DIYPC copied Fractal's fan designs just like they copied their Define series of cases, so the blade structure and count look the same.

Power Supply

Rock solid performance. Modular. Hefty? Killer 10 year warranty, but you only get that if you register the item within 30 days.

-1 star because of surprisingly loud fan and the warranty rules. I've never heard a PSU this loud. I had a 650 watt Corsair with a fan you literally couldn't hear with your ear next to it. With this pointing down to a wood floor it's the loudest part of my build unless the GPU is maxing its little 90mm fans out. Fortunately I specifically bought this to be more than twice the power I need, which means it can operate in ECO fanless mode 100% of the time and run at max efficiency (PCPartPicker estimate for my build is 100 watts over my actual system power draw according to my Kill-A-Watt power meter). If the fan had to be on I honestly don't think I could keep this unit, it's that loud. As for the warranty issue, I chose this model largely because of the 10 year warranty. But since I didn't register at evga.com within 30 days of purchase, now I only get a 3 year warranty. Yes I suppose that's my fault but with other EVGA products being so easy to get your warranty for (even with buying 2nd hand), I really feel EVGA should have made more of an effort to inform me as the buyer that 3 day registration was required. If it doesn't last that long I will raise hell with them, no question.

Optical Drive

Not sure I picked the right model. I like it because it has LightScribe, which my photo clients like because I can laser etch their cover shots into the CDRs. Neat! I also have a 'yuge CD collection that I'm spending half my life ripping to HDD. I know I'm a dinosaur for liking optical drives but I don't know how the rest of you are living without them!

Operating System

Best Windows yet. Except for the @$#&% over complicated file permission system that takes a half second to royally screw up (and corrupt entire drives with) and a lifetime to fix. JUST MAKE ADMIN = GOD AND STOP TELLING ME I DON'T PERMISSION TO DO STUFF TO MY &@%$&^ COMPUTER! Not talking about the safeguard pop up, which I actually like, but the deeply rooted and layered file permissions. Such a pain to work out, and nothing on MS help sites is well spelled out.

Monitor

Obsolete. Dim and blotchy display compared to modern $100 monitors. This is 10 years old and just a placeholder until I can get another Acer G257HU.

Monitor

Occasionally on sale for $210, which is what I got it for. I'm waiting for that sale again and I'll get a second one. Easily overclocked to 80 Hz with no frame skipping, which is a nice fit for the GTX 1070. If I didn't do so much editing, however, I probably would have gone for a 144Hz 1080p monitor or 1080 with G-Sync. 1440 has 77% more pixels than 1080 resolution, which means it's 77% harder for your GPU to manage. But man it looks good. Great colors out of the box and brightness that can easily overcome my sunny office space. Recommended when on sale.

Comments Sorted by:

arom 1 point 6 months ago

That machine looks like a powerhouse, nice job.

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Thanks, I'm really proud of it. Except for the BSOD death spiral I first went through in the first few days resulting in a complete reinstall, everything went peachy ;-)

tanbirahmed 1 point 6 months ago

Can you explain that a little more? What is BSOD death spiral?

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

I first tried just posting over my existing SSD without prepping new drivers or anything on it. Keep in mind this was attached to 8 year old Intel hardware, and I was asking it to make nice with 2017 AMD hardware without any warning (i.e. pre-installing drivers). It was okaaaay at first, then I got a "blue screen of death", then another, then another, until it finally wouldn't even boot. The drive was totally corrupted. So I wiped it, did a clean install, put back my backed up files, and everything's been great.

I would recommend the clean install for any new build, and I was going to do that anyway. I just wanted to see if I could get away with the lazy way. And no, I couldn't.

Electroman01 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

This is very close to the tnext build ill do

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Nice! You'll be very happy.

Electroman01 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Out of curiosity, why did you pick that monitor?

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

The Acer, I assume? I wanted 1440p at a modest size (25"), IPS panel for photo editing, high brightness for use in a brightly lit room (350 cd/m2), overclockable to 85 Hz, no ghosting during gaming, and solid reviews. This checks all those boxes and so once it was on sale for $209 a month or two ago I had to go for it. I'll get a 2nd one as soon as it goes on sale again. I guess it's every few months at both Newegg and Amazon. Gaming at 1440p on a bright IPS monitor with ultra settings at 70-80 fps is super sweet.

The things you have to put up with for the low price are no height adjustment, slightly flimsy stand, useless speakers, 60 Hz native refresh (easily overclocked), and external power brick. Worth it to me.

Electroman01 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Hmm ok. Im looking for a good monitor so i was curious

RustyNickel 1 point 6 months ago

Mr. sir, how would you compare 70-80hz gaming to 144hz gaming? this is the only thing keeping me from getting 1440p monitors atm for my first build

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

I went 1440p for two reasons: photo editing and creating an excuse to buy a GTX 1070, which I've coveted since they came out. If I were more reasonable, I would probably have put the money into dual 24" 1080p monitors. Hell, that's probably what I should have done anyway, but I like to think my photographic artistry simply needs 1440p and tight pixel pitch. See how good I am at self-enabling?

I should add that gaming at 80Hz looks perfectly fluid to me, but that I have no real experience with 144Hz. It might very well make you J in your Ps 24/7 but I wouldn't know.

Ericreza 1 point 6 months ago

For some reason I love the amd stock cooler. It's so clean looking

SubNauticaWaterWorld47 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Now we cant just throw our stock coolers out the window and have no questions asked.

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

I do, too. I wish they put the LED model in with the 5 series :)

Lyrix 1 point 6 months ago

1+ i like it! ;D

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Thanks!

RustyNickel 1 point 6 months ago

looking for a monitor setup with my 1600 and 1070 build is there anything you like or would change with your dual monitor setup?

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

I would definitely not advise splitting different resolutions and panel types unless you have very different needs for your different screens. I'll be adding a second 25" Acer 1440p IPS and scrapping the old Viewsonic as soon as I can afford it. The Viewsonic TN panel looks yellowish, dim, and blotchy in comparison to the Acer. But the Viewsonics lasted me 10 years so I can't really fault them. The new tech just looks way better.

RustyNickel 1 point 6 months ago

oh snap,i literally just asked this question on reddit.. this is the information i needed to hear but didnt want to hear :( https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/6c3uhp/looking_for_the_best_dual_monitor_setup_for/

TerryThePCBuilder 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Nice rig man!

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Much appreciated

RustyNickel 1 point 6 months ago

Working on my first build list, would there be any difference between the ZOTAC 1070 @ $50 cheaper? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4fyxFT/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10700g-10m

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 2 points 6 months ago

Doubt it. I researched all the Zotax 1070 and 1060 options and they are well rated across the board. EVGA is the one that had a few problems this time around with the overheating VRM problem.

ROBLIVESON 1 point 4 months ago

I have the same case and I am so happy with it! :) Deal of the century.

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

I know right? I feel like I'll be using this thing forever. I did go ahead and replace the stock fans with 2x Noctua 140mm intake and 1x Noctua 120mm exhaust and my CPU temps went down average 8 degrees, GPU down ~4 degrees. The front air intake is pretty restrictive with the door and filter, so installing better static pressure fans makes a huge difference. How are your temps? And on what CPU and cooler?

ROBLIVESON 1 point 4 months ago

Sweet! I haven't even put the thing together yet, to be honest, haha. It had just arrived not long before I found your build. I was amazed on how solid the case was, expecting less for that price. Noctua seems to win all around. I'm in the air btw Noctua & Corsair for the case. I know I won't be sorry with Noctua. Just need ram, fans, and then build finally. It's a Ryzen 1700, ASRock AB350m, Cryorig H7 fan, but I'm interested in seeing how the stock Wraith Spire does. More for music production than gaming. I will definitely be looking into some static pressure fans, and I'm sure I'll add my build soon, so thank you!

snackelroy submitter 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

My feeling is that Ryzen can overclock to 3.7 in this case with stock case fans and stock cooler. You might get lucky and get decent temps with 3.8 GHz, but you should definitely be good with 3.7 and under, including stock speeds. Let me know when you get it all built!

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